Why more maintenance???

Rva_Kun · December 2016

Why more maintenance? Because ZoS seems unable to do maintenance, patch, etc without messing something up.
Praise the day they get something right..

Tandor · December 2016

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Have you even experienced the amount of crashes, infinite loading screens delayed texture rendering, bug at the crafting stations that pups the same materials for clothing and blacksmithing stations rendering crafting impossible (temp solution logout and back in), animation delays during combat or the most recent logout bug at certain regions. I could go on.

No, but I accept that some have. It seems from reading the forum that the PC NA server is usually in rather more trouble than the PC EU one, but in any event these are clearly issues that need to be fixed even if they don't affect everyone. I'm all in favour of maintenance to that end, regardless of whether the downtime impacts on those who don't have the problem that's being fixed. However, I do think it used to be better when the NA and EU servers were handled separately - and it would be even better if that were the case today now that they don't require separate client installations.

Betheny · December 2016

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Just try the example I gave about leaving your PC on without turning it off or doing a minor defrag or clean up. You'll understand it better then!

You don't defrag SSDs.

Sogreth · December 2016

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Hot fixes happen in all mmo's it is a part of the online experience, I am glad they do them instead of waiting for the next cycle, I just wish zos was more Johnny on the spot with larger issues plaguing the game, I guess those are bit more in depth to fix.

WoW has no issues dealing with "hotfixes". Most of the time they throw in a hoxfix WHILE people are still playing the game. They do rolling restarts every Tuesday, and that's normally when they put their hotfixes in. Those last for about 15 minutes.

But 4 hours for a hotfix? Something is wrong there.

MasterSpatula · December 2016

If you had actually spent any time in game yesterday, you'd be very pleased that there's a maintenance today.

Inhuman003 · December 2016

The reason why there might be more maintenance is to the housing developments should be processed in the game so the servers can manifest more room to input to allow every player to enjoy the development of the game play style of housing of craft thing as well if I'm wrong all well.

danno8 · December 2016

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Can someone check on ArchAge and tell me how that's going?

It's a Korean grinder. It's going exactly as you would expect. Break out the wallet for micro transactions or GTFU.

Psychodellix · December 2016

its funny to me that cyrodiil has dealt with this for as long as i have played. but 15 mins for PVE, immediate mts....

Gilvoth · December 2016

Rva_Kun wrote: »

Why more maintenance? Because ZoS seems unable to do maintenance, patch, etc without messing something up.
Praise the day they get something right..

well to be fair, i think tamerial one was almost perfect [accept for the proc sets] as far as a work by zenimax it was thier best work.

Rva_Kun · December 2016

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

Why more maintenance? Because ZoS seems unable to do maintenance, patch, etc without messing something up.
Praise the day they get something right..

well to be fair, i think tamerial one was almost perfect [accept for the proc sets] as far as a work by zenimax it was thier best work.

I agree & proc sets don't bother me I just stack thru the damage and laugh. But having maintenance almost every other day is starting to get really annoying. Especially when you hardly notice a difference lmfao & If only ESO could do what WoW did..

ManwithBeard9 · December 2016

danno8 wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Can someone check on ArchAge and tell me how that's going?

It's a Korean grinder. It's going exactly as you would expect. Break out the wallet for micro transactions or GTFU.

I meant the meant hellfire that's happening right now.

rotaugen454 · December 2016

Yesterday, it would take multiple tries and lots of waiting to use a wayshrine or merchant. It was unplayable, especially with the disconnects. I, for one, am glad they are doing maintenance right now.

gard · December 2016

Sogreth wrote: »

Are you kidding me? I didn't get to play at all yesterday since the server came back up 15 mins before I had to leave for work.

And now MORE maintenance? Wth? Since when does a game need 2 days in a row for maintenance?

Because the maintenance they did yesterday made the game unplayable. If you'd had the day off yesterday, you still wouldn't have been able to play all this time most likely.

Wreuntzylla · December 2016

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Grunim · December 2016

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Go play another game or watch some TV

Or tell someone special in your life that you love them.

Rva_Kun · December 2016

Welp like the previous thread I'm going back to sleep since ZoS wants to ruin my farming time.
Pce :^) i'll be back when they stop ruining my farming time.

Lylith · December 2016

it's just a make up feature, for those poor souls who missed out on it yesterday.

AyeshaBelladonna · December 2016

I, for one, am really glad of the second downtime. Prior to patch my new Stygian set proc'd correctly with the 20% increase when in stealth to both magika pool AND spell dmg but after patch it only proc'd for the spell dmg. sometime around 11pmCST it finally started working again but as soon as it did my whole group started experiencing random 2k-10k PR. and never at the same time. all four of us had rolling ping spikes you were almost able to set a rotation clock by. 1st one had it, then a few minutes later someone else had it, it was a vicious never-ending cycle.

While i really hate the extra downtime, i AM thrilled to see them take it back down to fix properly this quick. Much of yesterdays issues were likely them trying to fix a few things that the patch accidentally screwed up without costing us more downtime and that just made everything worse with the lag spikes.

I'll happily read forums, have some coffee, get some work done while i wait. I'll reserve ranting about unnecessary downtime till i see if they fixed everything when it goes back up. $!%# Happens when dealing with programming, as long as they don't make me suffer for their screw ups for weeks on end, a few more hours down is A'OK for me!

Toybot · December 2016

The problem is that their platform is based on a monolithic code base. This means that they have to aggregate their code changes into a sizeable mass and take down the system, as a means of releasing it.

The consequence is... we wait and wait and wait.

Someday, this will be a thing of the past, as it's inevitable that development will move to Microservices. This means that the code will be isolated into a (solid state) components that could be easily hot-swapped or switched from one to another within a matter of seconds, whilst all working together seamlessly.

The benefit will be... we can play and play and play.

----
Dear Santa,

Please give Zenimax a big box full of Microservices for Christmas, this year.

Yours truly,
Toybot

raglau · December 2016

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

If it helps you understand it better, leave your PC running for a month without turning it off nor putting it to hibernate nor sleep. then Open the task manager and check CPU performance and memory usage. Heck the slow computer will already tell you its time for a shutdown before even checking the performance.
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Possibly for a domestic PC, which runs a multitude of unmanaged apps all with differing standards of coding etc., but not for a server. Where servers are specifically prohibited from patching (certain specialist environments) and therefore do not require reboots, they can be up with no issue for literally years, providing the services they host are correctly designed.

If an OS needs a reboot because issues arise such as you describe, it's due to a poorly coded application. There is no reason to simply restart an OS for the hell of it, an OS will manage memory and CPU allocation correctly, provided the hosted apps are developed to the published standards and use the mandated APIs in the correct manner.

jaye63 · December 2016

Because if a little maintenance is good, more should be better!

TheRealPotoroo · December 2016

The second maintenance did not fix these problems. I just now gave up trying to quest on Malabor Tor because it was unplayable. 999+ ping, multiple seconds before the game responded to keystrokes, rubber banding, the lot.

Palidon · December 2016

Why more maintenance? Because ZOS cannot fix the problems they are causing. Third night in a row and treads are popping up referencing lag, crashes, high ping rates, load screens and calls by players to fix their servers.

Pops_ND_Irish · December 2016

Priceless !

Banana · December 2016

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GreenhaloX · December 2016

Deal with it! It's part of maintaining the game.

heyjrey · December 2016

I so called this yesterday. I was joking around with my friends saying "watch, there's gonna be another maintenance tomorrow too" and look what I did…I spoke it into existence. Damnit self. Why u do dat.