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Issue with the GUILD Collected taxes

Eldorhaan
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Hi, I have may be a stupid question, but I would like to know, why the collected tax are not matching with the part of the house. When you sell an item, it's said that, 7% go to the guild, but when you start to calculate, this is 3.5% approximately.

I will take an example:
If I look into the guild history and sales, I choose a sale of 8 resin it wrote 35 500 gold, then 1242 gold collected tax. 1242/35 500= 0.034985 otherwise 3.4985 %
Another one 17 500 gold, 612 collected tax. 612/17 500= 0.034971 otherwise 3.4971%

Now let's opening the guild store, select any item, and enter those value:
If I enter 35 500 I get this: Current tax 355 and part of the house 2485. But 2485/35 500= 0.07 otherwise 7%
If I enter 17 500 I get this: Current tax 175 and part of the house 1225. But 1225/17 500= 0.07 otherwise 7%

So why this is different? Is there a parameter I don't understand ? Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ? Is this the fact of Khajit association ? Or maybe ... Maybe ... this is a bug ?
Edited by Eldorhaan on December 12, 2016 8:30AM
  • Sheezabeast
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    could it be including the listing fee in with the taxes?
    Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!
  • ntheogenic
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    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ?

    Yes he does :)

    Listing fee:
    1% => gold sink (disappears)

    On sale:
    3.5% guild tax (guild bank)
    3.5% gold sink (disappears)
    GDBY
  • Eldorhaan
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    ntheogenic wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ?

    Yes he does :)

    Listing fee:
    1% => gold sink (disappears)

    On sale:
    3.5% guild tax (guild bank)
    3.5% gold sink (disappears)

    Ok so why it says on the guild trader that it's 7% for the guild?
  • Betheny
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    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    ntheogenic wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ?

    Yes he does :)

    Listing fee:
    1% => gold sink (disappears)

    On sale:
    3.5% guild tax (guild bank)
    3.5% gold sink (disappears)

    Ok so why it says on the guild trader that it's 7% for the guild?

    You asking people to make explanations for ZOS decisions?
  • Cavarka
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    Wait...so the guild gets 3.5%? What do guild trader bids go for in popular areas out of curiosity?
  • Eldorhaan
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    Betheny wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    ntheogenic wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ?

    Yes he does :)

    Listing fee:
    1% => gold sink (disappears)

    On sale:
    3.5% guild tax (guild bank)
    3.5% gold sink (disappears)

    Ok so why it says on the guild trader that it's 7% for the guild?

    You asking people to make explanations for ZOS decisions?

    No it seems that it is an obvious fact that it's 3.5%/3.5%. So maybe he gets explaination that I don't have ^^ as I mentioned the fact that it's wrote on the description it's 7% for the guild, not 3.5%
  • DigitalShibby
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    Millions
  • Stormshaper
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    Cavarka wrote: »
    Wait...so the guild gets 3.5%? What do guild trader bids go for in popular areas out of curiosity?

    Millions
  • Betheny
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    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Betheny wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    ntheogenic wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ?

    Yes he does :)

    Listing fee:
    1% => gold sink (disappears)

    On sale:
    3.5% guild tax (guild bank)
    3.5% gold sink (disappears)

    Ok so why it says on the guild trader that it's 7% for the guild?

    You asking people to make explanations for ZOS decisions?

    No it seems that it is an obvious fact that it's 3.5%/3.5%. So maybe he gets explaination that I don't have ^^ as I mentioned the fact that it's wrote on the description it's 7% for the guild, not 3.5%

    Literally nobody knows why. All we know is the server takes it. Someone can come along and RP up an explanation for you if you really need.
  • Eldorhaan
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    Cavarka wrote: »
    Wait...so the guild gets 3.5%? What do guild trader bids go for in popular areas out of curiosity?

    The Bids also disappear into Oblivion and probably into the mouth of Molag Bal
  • Taternater
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    Learning this, maybe I should buy more raffle tickets. Since 3.5% of my sales goes to the guild instead of 7%.
  • Eldorhaan
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    Betheny wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Betheny wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    ntheogenic wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ?

    Yes he does :)

    Listing fee:
    1% => gold sink (disappears)

    On sale:
    3.5% guild tax (guild bank)
    3.5% gold sink (disappears)

    Ok so why it says on the guild trader that it's 7% for the guild?

    You asking people to make explanations for ZOS decisions?

    No it seems that it is an obvious fact that it's 3.5%/3.5%. So maybe he gets explaination that I don't have ^^ as I mentioned the fact that it's wrote on the description it's 7% for the guild, not 3.5%

    Literally nobody knows why. All we know is the server takes it. Someone can come along and RP up an explanation for you if you really need.

    No RP just an explanation of ZOS, why they wrote 7% as it is 3.5%, I can understand they miss the key and wrote 4, but 3.5 it is on purpose. It's just like we screw you freely with no explanation, that just make me mad as this money just disappear and it nonsense.
    Edited by Eldorhaan on December 12, 2016 9:21AM
  • Betheny
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    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Betheny wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Betheny wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    ntheogenic wrote: »
    Eldorhaan wrote: »
    Is this Molag bal that secretly put his creepy fingers into all the guilds of tamriel ?

    Yes he does :)

    Listing fee:
    1% => gold sink (disappears)

    On sale:
    3.5% guild tax (guild bank)
    3.5% gold sink (disappears)

    Ok so why it says on the guild trader that it's 7% for the guild?

    You asking people to make explanations for ZOS decisions?

    No it seems that it is an obvious fact that it's 3.5%/3.5%. So maybe he gets explaination that I don't have ^^ as I mentioned the fact that it's wrote on the description it's 7% for the guild, not 3.5%

    Literally nobody knows why. All we know is the server takes it. Someone can come along and RP up an explanation for you if you really need.

    No RP just an explanation of ZOS, why they wrote 7% as it is 3.5%, I can understand they miss the key and wrote 4, but 3.5 it is on purpose. It's just like we screw you freely with no explanation, that just make me mad.

    Your only option here is to summon some devs to explain why to you, but I don't think they'll bother answering...
  • Eldorhaan
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    Oh yes I bet 100% you are right but I can't resign myself to accept such things. I am posting in the bug reports, will see what will happen.
    Edited by Eldorhaan on December 12, 2016 9:23AM
  • LMar
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    I think if you hover over the tax listing it tells you that only 3.5% goes to the guild. The other 3.5% is just a gold sink to avoid gold inflation. Ofc this doesn't disallow some guilds for accumulating billions of gold and effectively ruling guild traders.
    "If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
    "Taller races now sit in chairs correctly"
  • Messy1
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    It would be cool if trading guilds could actually decide what cut % they take!
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Messy1 wrote: »
    It would be cool if trading guilds could actually decide what cut % they take!

    hmmm...... maybe not.
  • Eldorhaan
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    LMar wrote: »
    I think if you hover over the tax listing it tells you that only 3.5% goes to the guild. The other 3.5% is just a gold sink to avoid gold inflation. Ofc this doesn't disallow some guilds for accumulating billions of gold and effectively ruling guild traders.

    Absolutely not, if you hover the ? it says that 7% goes to the guild.
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