Do you think mounts/skins/polymorphs and costumes should also be available through Gold?

deevoh1991 · December 2016

I think it can be a nice goldsink as well as keep more people happy .
And I understand the costs would be 50k- to 5 Mill for these
But see time is money and people are going to have to devote time to procure gold to pay for these which are obviously going to priced very high.
1 Crown = 5000 gold or something I don't know just a random conversion

(Pls note the mounts you CAN buy with gold are boring af and lack creativity/fantasy and vareity in every way)

Also I think you should be able to sell your mounts that you purchase from crown store for gold. There are people who refuse to spend real money on the game, and crown buyers could also benefit with high gold and weapon/game equipments as a trade off? (This is optional)

Your opinions?
Would you be interested?

DPShiro · December 2016

No.
The game needs money to survive, and to bring out new content.

If you worked at ZoS would you be happy with being paid in digital gold?

Brokensocket · December 2016

I agree with op tho, for people not wanting to spend 100s of $£€ on this game, its not fair that its so bland and generic... at least SOME mounts specifically created for in game gold purchasing, ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

And im a subscriber who regulary buys crowns and purchases.

Voxicity · December 2016

Brokensocket wrote: »

ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

So they pay artists, animators, programmers to create a mount, and don't get money in return from players buying it.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that sounds like they'd be losing money...

deevoh1991 · December 2016

DPShiro wrote: »

No.
The game needs money to survive, and to bring out new content.

If you worked at ZoS would you be happy with being paid in digital gold?

Most MMO's have a Gems/premium money service along with gold values for items or cosmetics. It's not something unseen in the MMO world.

rootimus · December 2016

Everything should be available via a combination of gold, subscribing, questing and achievements. The crown store should be for people with ADD who have to have ~thing~ right naow.

FoolishHuman · December 2016

I'm glad this game doesn't have gold to crown conversions, and I hope it stays that way. The currencies should stay entirely seperated imo. Other games that have conversion systems have a lot of problems with it.

Brokensocket · December 2016

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

So they pay artists, animators, programmers to create a mount, and don't get money in return from players buying it.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that sounds like they'd be losing money...

They are constantly making money from subscribers and crowns and game purchases.... constantly all day everyday.. day and night, putting a few mounts in game would not make them lose money, they will just not make money off that mount... but like op said if the price is high enough then people will be playing alot more to farm for it

idk · December 2016

DPShiro wrote: »

No.
The game needs money to survive, and to bring out new content.

If you worked at ZoS would you be happy with being paid in digital gold?

This is the correct answer.

Besides, Zos does put skins, polymorphs, costumes and personalities in game available for free.

Voxicity · December 2016

Brokensocket wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

So they pay artists, animators, programmers to create a mount, and don't get money in return from players buying it.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that sounds like they'd be losing money...

They are constantly making money from subscribers and crowns and game purchases.... constantly all day everyday.. day and night, putting a few mounts in game would not make them lose money, they will just not make money off that mount... but like op said if the price is high enough then people will be playing alot more to farm for it

It would make them lose money if comparing it to putting said mounts/costumes on the crown store. Scenario 1 they get no real money, scenario 2 they get real money. Simples.

ARIES SERPICO · December 2016

NO.

kevlarto_ESO · December 2016

I wish some thing would have way to obtain them through game play, new quest lines and so forth, there will always be the instant gratification person that has to be the first on the block to own the new shiny and good for them they keep the wheels of eso spinning.

I sub and do not buy anything beyond my sub, until I see some money coming back into the game for fixes and getting rid of cheaters and exploiters, so if zos wants to keep getting my sub money the need to give me something to do, I come to play a game not play a store, if I want to play the store game I will log in to Amazon they got a lot of need crap.

Betheny · December 2016

Brokensocket wrote: »

They are constantly making money from subscribers and crowns and game purchases....

Wait so...subscribers and people who buy things in the store should subsidise those who want to only grind gold and never pay for their game content?

itehache · December 2016

Absolutely.

We should be able to buy mounts with in game gold. Of course the price would have to be be really high, so it would be easier to get the crowns, but I always thought all crown store items should be obtainable via in game gold. There would always be the typical premium stuff only obtainable via crown store, as people above said, the game needs money to run. The thing is, as you said, the 4 mounts you can get in game are horses, different colors, but "just" horses. We should be able to get other mounts/pets in game, even if they would be really expensive.

In all honesty though I dont think we will ever get pets and mounts obtainable in game gold xD I am subbed and with the crowns I get I am able to buy cool mounts, I have the bear, the wolf, the alliance horse etc but damn, even if the mounts were more "simple" I will always think they should be obtainable via gold

Xenophis · December 2016

DPShiro wrote: »

No.
The game needs money to survive, and to bring out new content.

If you worked at ZoS would you be happy with being paid in digital gold?

I actually wouldn't mind digix (digital gold) as payment. Cryptocurrency is the wave of the future.

(Just giving you a hard time, lol.)

TheShadowScout · December 2016

There is actually one way this might be possible.
A special vendor who offers mounts and skins and costumes and ploymorphs for gold - for subscribers only.

Every other way... it has been said before, the people who make the decisions at ZOS have to pay their employees with real money for their work because the grocer around the corner does not accept digital gold for the grafic designers lunch, and neither does the programmers landlord... so they want to see some return from that, thus all the crown store stuff will remain for real money bought crowns only.
No profit from paying the designers to make the "extra fashion" stuff in the crown store means there would never be more things added to the crown store.

Oh, and the old idea of releasing older crown store stuff for gold after a year or two is also iffy, since it would severaly limit their profits - if people knew "it'd come out for gold in a year" many would want and save the expense. So, not gonna happen either.

Brokensocket · December 2016

*menality of the people here*

Pffft give us somthing for our loyalty and cash for free? No thank you! I want to pay for everything i want to earn at my job to give to someone else for a mount... no excuses!! NO FREE ITEMS!! NO LOYALTY BENEFITS! I REFUSE OFFERS FROM SHOPS BECAUSE I LIKE TO PAY FOR EVERY SINGLE THING EVER

Brokensocket · December 2016

Betheny wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

They are constantly making money from subscribers and crowns and game purchases....

Wait so...subscribers and people who buy things in the store should subsidise those who want to only grind gold and never pay for their game content?

No... like was already said.. specific mounts put in the game for specificaly purchasing with in game gold... ie a red bear or somthing.. not in crown store but only in gane

Myyth · December 2016

Since they have already completely copied the gamble crates from SWToR, they may as well just do exactly what they do.

All the items in gamble crates in SWToR can be sold on the auction house to other players. Which means that players have a choice, they can either gamble for the mount/pet with real money or pay gold on the auction house to other players who will be selling the items for insanely greedy prices.

So just let players in ESO sell anything they get from crates in the guild stores. This way ZoS still gets money from people buying the crates and players have a choice to buy with real money or gold.

starkerealm · December 2016

Brokensocket wrote: »

I agree with op tho, for people not wanting to spend 100s of $£€ on this game, its not fair that its so bland and generic... at least SOME mounts specifically created for in game gold purchasing, ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

And im a subscriber who regulary buys crowns and purchases.

The mounts available for gold date back to when the game originally launched. So... yeah, they don't look that great now.

It would be interesting, or memorable if each DLC zone's stablemaster had a unique mount for that location. Not one of the crown mounts, though potentially a retexture of one. Like some variety of camel in Hew's Bane. But, not something I'd hold my breath for.

Stovahkiin · December 2016

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

So they pay artists, animators, programmers to create a mount, and don't get money in return from players buying it.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that sounds like they'd be losing money...

This

Eirikir · December 2016

No, these devs aren't evil robber barons, they and their staff are hard working and deserve to be paid.

I love the people who rail against prices in videogames are the same people who advocate a $15 an hour minimum wage. If you work you deserve to be paid fairly. Its a sub-less game, they have to make money. You can't pay people in in-game gold.

Brokensocket · December 2016

starkerealm wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

I agree with op tho, for people not wanting to spend 100s of $£€ on this game, its not fair that its so bland and generic... at least SOME mounts specifically created for in game gold purchasing, ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

And im a subscriber who regulary buys crowns and purchases.

The mounts available for gold date back to when the game originally launched. So... yeah, they don't look that great now.

It would be interesting, or memorable if each DLC zone's stablemaster had a unique mount for that location. Not one of the crown mounts, though potentially a retexture of one. Like some variety of camel in Hew's Bane. But, not something I'd hold my breath for.

This... exactly what im trying to say.
Just like motifs and armor and the vanilla horses.. would not break their bank over a few better mounts to be free

Stovahkiin · December 2016

Brokensocket wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

I agree with op tho, for people not wanting to spend 100s of $£€ on this game, its not fair that its so bland and generic... at least SOME mounts specifically created for in game gold purchasing, ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

And im a subscriber who regulary buys crowns and purchases.

The mounts available for gold date back to when the game originally launched. So... yeah, they don't look that great now.

It would be interesting, or memorable if each DLC zone's stablemaster had a unique mount for that location. Not one of the crown mounts, though potentially a retexture of one. Like some variety of camel in Hew's Bane. But, not something I'd hold my breath for.

This... exactly what im trying to say.
Just like motifs and armor and the vanilla horses.. would not break their bank over a few better mounts to be free

Time spent designing new mounts for free = time that could be spent designing mounts that require purchase. Which one do you think Zeni would prefer?

Betheny · December 2016

Brokensocket wrote: »

specific mounts put in the game for specificaly purchasing with in game gold... ie a red bear or somthing.. not in crown store but only in gane

You can already buy horses with gold.

Brokensocket · December 2016

Betheny wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

specific mounts put in the game for specificaly purchasing with in game gold... ie a red bear or somthing.. not in crown store but only in gane

You can already buy horses with gold.

Lol i know.. i buy mounts im just saying a reskin wouldnt hurt for the young ones or people who cant/wont pay crowns..

Brokensocket · December 2016

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

I agree with op tho, for people not wanting to spend 100s of $£€ on this game, its not fair that its so bland and generic... at least SOME mounts specifically created for in game gold purchasing, ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

And im a subscriber who regulary buys crowns and purchases.

The mounts available for gold date back to when the game originally launched. So... yeah, they don't look that great now.

It would be interesting, or memorable if each DLC zone's stablemaster had a unique mount for that location. Not one of the crown mounts, though potentially a retexture of one. Like some variety of camel in Hew's Bane. But, not something I'd hold my breath for.

This... exactly what im trying to say.
Just like motifs and armor and the vanilla horses.. would not break their bank over a few better mounts to be free

Time spent designing new mounts for free = time that could be spent designing mounts that require purchase. Which one do you think Zeni would prefer?

Not designing just a free reskin like we said

Silver_Strider · December 2016

Well there are 4 horses you can buy with in game gold. Then, there are the several polymorphs/costumes you can get from IC, Orsinium, TG and DB as well as the few available from the base game, like the Mannimarco outfit. It's not like they aren't available already.

I wouldn't mind some more variety in what horses were available in stables (sort of odd that the same horses are available in every stable of the world instead of there being mounts based on location, such as Guars being available in Shadowfen, Echatate in Orsinium, etc) but that's probably my only nitpick really

starkerealm · December 2016

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

I agree with op tho, for people not wanting to spend 100s of $£€ on this game, its not fair that its so bland and generic... at least SOME mounts specifically created for in game gold purchasing, ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

And im a subscriber who regulary buys crowns and purchases.

The mounts available for gold date back to when the game originally launched. So... yeah, they don't look that great now.

It would be interesting, or memorable if each DLC zone's stablemaster had a unique mount for that location. Not one of the crown mounts, though potentially a retexture of one. Like some variety of camel in Hew's Bane. But, not something I'd hold my breath for.

This... exactly what im trying to say.
Just like motifs and armor and the vanilla horses.. would not break their bank over a few better mounts to be free

Time spent designing new mounts for free = time that could be spent designing mounts that require purchase. Which one do you think Zeni would prefer?

You understand, even perusing the guild kiosks in Hew's Bane requires purchase, right?

alexkdd99 · December 2016

Brokensocket wrote: »

I agree with op tho, for people not wanting to spend 100s of $£€ on this game, its not fair that its so bland and generic... at least SOME mounts specifically created for in game gold purchasing, ZoS will not lose anything by giving a few cool mounts just will please there customers.

And im a subscriber who regulary buys crowns and purchases.

What do you mean they won't lose anything? They will lose out on the real money people would of spent instead of in game gold.

It is definitely fair for any extra cosmetic like that to be for cash only. Also there has not been a single cosmetic that cost 100s of dollars. If you want extra cosmetic fluff it cost money. None of it is necessary so it is definitely fair.

Brokensocket wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Brokensocket wrote: »

specific mounts put in the game for specificaly purchasing with in game gold... ie a red bear or somthing.. not in crown store but only in gane

You can already buy horses with gold.

Lol i know.. i buy mounts im just saying a reskin wouldnt hurt for the young ones or people who cant/wont pay crowns..

If they won't pay real money then they get what is available. Someones refusal to buy something only shows they don't want it enough to buy it. As far as can't, well that's a whole different discussion.

Rva_Kun · December 2016

If 1 Crown was 5k gold I'd have unlimited Crowns lol