Is this Zerg or Solo play?
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You're playing solo in Cyrodiil. In your travels you see a large group of comrades heading together somewhere and they look determined. You latch onto them to see what's about to happen.
A minute later your group sees another large group and starts a 50+ person battle.
In this scenario, would you consider someone a solo player because they are literally playing by themselves, or a Zerg player because they latched onto a large army randomly?
Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on December 10, 2016 5:20PM A minute later your group sees another large group and starts a 50+ person battle.
In this scenario, would you consider someone a solo player because they are literally playing by themselves, or a Zerg player because they latched onto a large army randomly?
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Bandit1215✭✭✭ZergIf you are with fighting alongside a large number of your allies, it is a zerg.CP 561- vSO HM - Completed
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✭✭✭✭SoloBeing solo doesn't mean you aren't part of the zerg
Fair enough. I see arguments about this all the time in the text box. I kind of view it as solo play but I'm probably in the minority on this one. Lots of times I'm just out trying to solo resources but when a herd of 40 mounted warriors run by I can't help but see what all the fuss is about.
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✭ZergZerg surfing
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will_rob87✭✭✭ZergGenuinely don't see the problem with zerging. Seems zerging gets a lot of abuse, but in reality, its just having a bigger group that the enemy. Not really sure what people are complaining about. Sure is frustrating when the enemy has more people but there's nothing you can do about it except get on with it, or come back when there's more of your team online (at which point you might be in the zerg, but I bet you don't complain or try to tackle keeps by yourself)6
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You zerg! No you zerg! Well, they zerg! Let's all zerg!
Actually, what OP describes, I call AP farming and it works like a charm on BWB for my baby banana.Edited by Leandor on December 10, 2016 5:58PM0 -
Riga_Mortis✭✭✭✭✭Other
You saw a group heading towards an objective and being a team player, helped them take the objective.
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You saw a group heading towards 2 players and got your zerg on.
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✭✭✭✭✭ZergYou're no longer solo when you're not alone regardless of being in a group-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭SoloSolo because your not part of the pug or group. You can also pick people off from the side or behind if your a nb.
I get a lot of angry tells from people telling me I'm just another zerger. However, my response is always the same.
1. I just happen to be where all the action is at. Should I be somewhere dull?
2. I'm not grouped, doing my own thing not restricted to the rules of the pug or Zerg.
3. Your welcome to pay my subscription. Bug off and placed on ignored.
Quite frankly, on the flip side, being a zerger is not a bad thing. RvR is fun. AD has had some fun fights with EP on the bridge. Same with DC on the wall. People want to fight where the action is and there are ways to do it solo.Legacy of Kain
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✭SoloNewBlacksmurf wrote: »You're no longer solo when you're not alone regardless of being in a group
Not true. You can be a nb off to the side of the Zerg and do your own thing (e.g. You can attract potatoes and try and do 1vx off to the side.) You can solo gank people on horseback Nearing the battle. you can aoe bomb from behind enemy lines by yourself and hope that the Zerg on the other side will push.
doing the map a favor doesn't always translate into I'm a zerger into a rolling cloud of arms and legs.Legacy of Kain
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✭✭✭✭ZergNewBlacksmurf wrote: »You're no longer solo when you're not alone regardless of being in a group
Not true. You can be a nb off to the side of the Zerg and do your own thing (e.g. You can attract potatoes and try and do 1vx off to the side.) You can solo gank people on horseback Nearing the battle. you can aoe bomb from behind enemy lines by yourself and hope that the Zerg on the other side will push.
doing the map a favor doesn't always translate into I'm a zerger into a rolling cloud of arms and legs.
That's also known as zergsurfing.Susano'o
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✭SoloNewBlacksmurf wrote: »You're no longer solo when you're not alone regardless of being in a group
Not true. You can be a nb off to the side of the Zerg and do your own thing (e.g. You can attract potatoes and try and do 1vx off to the side.) You can solo gank people on horseback Nearing the battle. you can aoe bomb from behind enemy lines by yourself and hope that the Zerg on the other side will push.
doing the map a favor doesn't always translate into I'm a zerger into a rolling cloud of arms and legs.
That's also known as zergsurfing.
This is where we agree to disagree
but out of curiosity. Is this "term" considered a bad thing? Edited by LegacyDM on December 10, 2016 8:22PMLegacy of Kain
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✭✭ZergI Zerg all the time. Don't be ashamed it's an alliance war! I won't go 20v1 or anything, actually I'll only Xv1 if it calls for it, pests, territory, Malubeth etc.
I prefer small scale skirmishes but when your opposing factions only Zerg, what other options do you have other than ride the edge and pick off stragglers?
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✭✭✭✭✭Zergit would appear as though the zergs have it...
if you know your map well - chances are you'll know where to head to find the "hot" spots, and, there's going to be plenty of allies in the area...
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Daraugh✭✭✭✭✭ZergThat actually sums up zergs. A large group of players, all on TS or communicating to do a specific thing isn't really a zerg. Zerg implies a ball of players, just following a leader and mowing over whatever is in their path like sheep.May all beings have happiness
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✭✭✭✭ZergNewBlacksmurf wrote: »You're no longer solo when you're not alone regardless of being in a group
Not true. You can be a nb off to the side of the Zerg and do your own thing (e.g. You can attract potatoes and try and do 1vx off to the side.) You can solo gank people on horseback Nearing the battle. you can aoe bomb from behind enemy lines by yourself and hope that the Zerg on the other side will push.
doing the map a favor doesn't always translate into I'm a zerger into a rolling cloud of arms and legs.
That's also known as zergsurfing.
This is where we agree to disagree but out of curiosity. Is this "term" considered a bad thing?
Not at all. I don't blame anyone for zerging or zergsurfing. Solo play off the hot spots is close to impossible these days anyway imo.Susano'o
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✭✭✭Zergzerg = uncoordinated
If you LFG and join a PUG you're a zergling. End of story.
If you know the people you're grouped with and have a leader with tactics and, even more rarely, strategy, that is not zerging, regardless of the size of the group. Zerglings rarely understand this and rarely run into their own alliance coordinated groups, and coordinated groups will generally avoid random strays as, not being part of the plan, they're likely to mess up whatever they have planned and aren't in TS with them. You have to experience real AvA to know what it's all about.
Coordinated groups can be good or bad, brilliant or cheesy, but zergs generally just run willy nilly like a herd, reacting en mass. Coordinated groups love you so they can farm you AP.
"Solo" players are one of two kinds: zerglings of gankers. Gankers aren't real pvpers and once you have a hose with max speed and stam and rapids you can generally just ignore the fact that they're there. Don't get me wrong - stealth and spying have a huge place in AvA, particularly as anti-gank, guards at choke points while siegeing or the like. Taking out late comers to a fight, making sure to take down FCs and the like.
When two or more armies are fighting no one is going to challenge someone to singles combat to settle the matter.
Then again it'd be vastly better to have them in Cyro RPing their weird head trip than spamming skills near undaunted enclave wayshrines and making login take forever.0 -
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✭The answer is, if your group killed them and they are asked the question, then you are a zerg. If your group killed them and you are asked the question then you soloed them. Any other result = potato.“Whatever.”
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crusnik91✭✭✭✭Zergdanielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »You latch onto them to see what's about to happen.danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »because they latched onto a large army randomly?
You followed the group or so called latched onto a group and see whats about to happen = ZERK
You dont randomly latched to a zerk because you choosed to join the ''PING PONG'' war = ZERK
You see 20 v 20, you avoid it and walk to their backlines drag some guys away and do pvp = no ZERK
You see 2 other factions fighting at the other part of the map, you buy camps and ride that pony there for pvp = no ZERK
If you wanna get objective done on map u gotta ZERK(no way around it)
But if you want meaningful pvp you can surely avoid ZERKING
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭SoloI'd call most of these large groups hordes rather than zergs. It's normally every man for themselves and very rarely with any strategy involved. Only ever see strategy and battle tactics with smaller guild groups.Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage2
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭SoloMost of the large groups I see are zergs. Large groups of players charging through pvp with no common mission and therefore no strategy. Relying on superior numbers to farm alliance points. But not all big groups are zergs and it's pretty difficult to work out wether the group that killed you was operating as a coherent team or an "every man for themselves" horde. Just because it was a large group doesn't make it a zerg. I consider a zerg to be a big group of solo players. Its not a war band until that group starts communicating and coordinating a strategy with a common purpose.Edited by Jimbullbee85 on December 10, 2016 11:13PMJimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage0
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✭✭✭✭I mean, by rule of thumb (and the internet) Zerging. That said, I never assumed 30 people taking a keep was Zerging. Zerging to me is chasing a far lesser number of enemy players for no strategic reason.
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✭✭ZergDepends.
If your a nightblade and you go to the back of the enemy zerg and take players out... your zerg surfing. Which in my opinion is a fine way to play the game.
If you latch onto a zerg and outnumber opponents, your a zerger regardless if your solo or not.PS4 NA DC1 -
alephthiago✭✭✭✭✭ZergThere is nothing wrong with zerg surfing, even more if you are playing solo.Edited by alephthiago on December 11, 2016 6:46AMWalks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
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✭✭✭✭SoloI just Zerg surfed my way to about a hundred kills and a disconnect at Sejanus haha.1
