T-bagging is against the rules now?
-
WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
I know the players that teabag me, I know that they are almost exclusively male. If a male shoves his genitalia into my face I can only assume he is a homosexual looking for a good time but going about it the wrong way.Lava_Croft wrote: »
Must be great entering discussions without having a clue about the subject matter.Lava_Croft wrote: »
The act of teabagging is inherently sexual and for every internet psychologist saying A there are many more saying B or C.Lava_Croft wrote: »
If shoving your genitalia into someone else's face is part of making war to you, I don't really know what to say. There's a slew of nice emotes people can use, but for some reason the pubescent boys always seem to prefer shoving their genitalia into your face. I think it's great that they seem to be homosexuals looking for a good time, but this is not way to approach such a situation.Lava_Croft wrote: »The whole act of shoving your genitalia into someone else's face without consent is highly questionable no matter how you look at it.
IRL yes. But we're talking about a game where we shove swords into each other's faces, explicity against consent (we're desperately trying to defend against it, in fact). So the point really would appear to pale into insignificance here. If the game 'Flower Arranging Simulator 2.1' I think the context might be a tad different however.
As I say, I do not play PvP in ESO, it's boring and broken and lacks challenge. So it's not part of war to me personally. But, there is no doubt that sexual assault is actually a part of real life war. American soldiers have *** their way around the world in their many illegal and questionable wars, and they are certainly only the most recent perpetrators and certainly will not be the last. But again, that is real life, this is a game.
If you feel there is a correlation between in game behaviour and IRL sexuality, please post your sources, because I have never come across such a thing, and I'm married to one of the most eminent psychologists in the UK. When I read that part of your post out to her just now over morning coffee, she merely snickered, so I am assuming it's not a 'thing' in her field.
As I say, please quote your sources saying it correlates with sexuality. You made a claim that the perpetrators seem to be homosexuals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
I know what Teabagging is. I am asking you to quote your sources saying that the perpetrators must be homosexual.
You seem to be unable to do so.
I see.
A rather strong assumption to make given that:
1 - It's a game not RL
2 - If we defer to the view that teabagging is sexual assault, most male on male sexual assault is not carried out by homosexuals, it's a form of control, as is male to female ***. The classic example is of course the prison '***'
3 - Crucially, you have quoted anecdotal scenarios. Obviously this can't be relied upon for the normal reasons, no controls, statistical issues with the sexes and categories of people you know/populate the same groups as you etc. Outside your anecdotal experience there could be a - for all we know - 50/50 female/male teabagging population, rendering it clearly heterosexual, to use your own standards of categorisation.
And that's the issue; you do not like it, fair enough we respect that, but really, there's no evidence to suggest it's anything but some people mucking about in a game.
Ultimately however, ZOS do make the rules, if they outlaw it, trivial as it is to most, that's just the way it goes.
Me personally, I think it's just a storm in a teacup.
I got to 2 and fell asleep. You my friend are being taken for a ride.PC EU0 -
raglau✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I know the players that teabag me, I know that they are almost exclusively male. If a male shoves his genitalia into my face I can only assume he is a homosexual looking for a good time but going about it the wrong way.Lava_Croft wrote: »
Must be great entering discussions without having a clue about the subject matter.Lava_Croft wrote: »
The act of teabagging is inherently sexual and for every internet psychologist saying A there are many more saying B or C.Lava_Croft wrote: »
If shoving your genitalia into someone else's face is part of making war to you, I don't really know what to say. There's a slew of nice emotes people can use, but for some reason the pubescent boys always seem to prefer shoving their genitalia into your face. I think it's great that they seem to be homosexuals looking for a good time, but this is not way to approach such a situation.Lava_Croft wrote: »The whole act of shoving your genitalia into someone else's face without consent is highly questionable no matter how you look at it.
IRL yes. But we're talking about a game where we shove swords into each other's faces, explicity against consent (we're desperately trying to defend against it, in fact). So the point really would appear to pale into insignificance here. If the game 'Flower Arranging Simulator 2.1' I think the context might be a tad different however.
As I say, I do not play PvP in ESO, it's boring and broken and lacks challenge. So it's not part of war to me personally. But, there is no doubt that sexual assault is actually a part of real life war. American soldiers have *** their way around the world in their many illegal and questionable wars, and they are certainly only the most recent perpetrators and certainly will not be the last. But again, that is real life, this is a game.
If you feel there is a correlation between in game behaviour and IRL sexuality, please post your sources, because I have never come across such a thing, and I'm married to one of the most eminent psychologists in the UK. When I read that part of your post out to her just now over morning coffee, she merely snickered, so I am assuming it's not a 'thing' in her field.
As I say, please quote your sources saying it correlates with sexuality. You made a claim that the perpetrators seem to be homosexuals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
I know what Teabagging is. I am asking you to quote your sources saying that the perpetrators must be homosexual.
You seem to be unable to do so.
I see.
A rather strong assumption to make given that:
1 - It's a game not RL
2 - If we defer to the view that teabagging is sexual assault, most male on male sexual assault is not carried out by homosexuals, it's a form of control, as is male to female ***. The classic example is of course the prison '***'
3 - Crucially, you have quoted anecdotal scenarios. Obviously this can't be relied upon for the normal reasons, no controls, statistical issues with the sexes and categories of people you know/populate the same groups as you etc. Outside your anecdotal experience there could be a - for all we know - 50/50 female/male teabagging population, rendering it clearly heterosexual, to use your own standards of categorisation.
And that's the issue; you do not like it, fair enough we respect that, but really, there's no evidence to suggest it's anything but some people mucking about in a game.
Ultimately however, ZOS do make the rules, if they outlaw it, trivial as it is to most, that's just the way it goes.
Me personally, I think it's just a storm in a teacup.
I got to 2 and fell asleep. You my friend are being taken for a ride.
Sometimes the rider, turns out to be the driver. Clue being the last sentence
Edited by raglau on December 6, 2016 10:24AM0 -
Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭
It was a mediocre attempt to turn a discussion about teabagging in general into a discussion about my view(s) of teabaggers. No game.WillhelmBlack wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I know the players that teabag me, I know that they are almost exclusively male. If a male shoves his genitalia into my face I can only assume he is a homosexual looking for a good time but going about it the wrong way.Lava_Croft wrote: »
Must be great entering discussions without having a clue about the subject matter.Lava_Croft wrote: »
The act of teabagging is inherently sexual and for every internet psychologist saying A there are many more saying B or C.Lava_Croft wrote: »
If shoving your genitalia into someone else's face is part of making war to you, I don't really know what to say. There's a slew of nice emotes people can use, but for some reason the pubescent boys always seem to prefer shoving their genitalia into your face. I think it's great that they seem to be homosexuals looking for a good time, but this is not way to approach such a situation.Lava_Croft wrote: »The whole act of shoving your genitalia into someone else's face without consent is highly questionable no matter how you look at it.
IRL yes. But we're talking about a game where we shove swords into each other's faces, explicity against consent (we're desperately trying to defend against it, in fact). So the point really would appear to pale into insignificance here. If the game 'Flower Arranging Simulator 2.1' I think the context might be a tad different however.
As I say, I do not play PvP in ESO, it's boring and broken and lacks challenge. So it's not part of war to me personally. But, there is no doubt that sexual assault is actually a part of real life war. American soldiers have *** their way around the world in their many illegal and questionable wars, and they are certainly only the most recent perpetrators and certainly will not be the last. But again, that is real life, this is a game.
If you feel there is a correlation between in game behaviour and IRL sexuality, please post your sources, because I have never come across such a thing, and I'm married to one of the most eminent psychologists in the UK. When I read that part of your post out to her just now over morning coffee, she merely snickered, so I am assuming it's not a 'thing' in her field.
As I say, please quote your sources saying it correlates with sexuality. You made a claim that the perpetrators seem to be homosexuals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
I know what Teabagging is. I am asking you to quote your sources saying that the perpetrators must be homosexual.
You seem to be unable to do so.
I see.
A rather strong assumption to make given that:
1 - It's a game not RL
2 - If we defer to the view that teabagging is sexual assault, most male on male sexual assault is not carried out by homosexuals, it's a form of control, as is male to female ***. The classic example is of course the prison '***'
3 - Crucially, you have quoted anecdotal scenarios. Obviously this can't be relied upon for the normal reasons, no controls, statistical issues with the sexes and categories of people you know/populate the same groups as you etc. Outside your anecdotal experience there could be a - for all we know - 50/50 female/male teabagging population, rendering it clearly heterosexual, to use your own standards of categorisation.
And that's the issue; you do not like it, fair enough we respect that, but really, there's no evidence to suggest it's anything but some people mucking about in a game.
Ultimately however, ZOS do make the rules, if they outlaw it, trivial as it is to most, that's just the way it goes.
Me personally, I think it's just a storm in a teacup.
I got to 2 and fell asleep. You my friend are being taken for a ride.
Sometimes the rider, turns out to be the driver. Clue being the last sentence
0 -
ZOS_JohanaB✭✭✭✭This thread has seem to have run its course so we've decided to close it for the lack of constructive conversation. In further post remember to be civil, to be constructive, and to follow the community rules as you continue to post.0
This discussion has been closed.