MasterSpatula wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

We can't make teabagging banable or all the cryhards who feel entitled to simulating sexual assault will complain. I can't believe that nobody is thinking of the feelings of those degenerates.

This isnt about getting sexually harassed for absurd reasons. Its about creating more respectful envoirement

Anyone who finds it acceptable to pretend to force their n**s into an unwilling person's mouth is not a person who cares much about a "respectful environment."

Exactly the reason why there should be an official enforcement against such people. We cant just say '' well they will be disrespectful either way so lets just set em loose''.

While i dont support the act of dangling ones *** in someone elses face i also do not support overly politically correct crackdowns on such behaviour either, if you are so thin skinned to be offended by something as trivial and innane as someone slapping their love spuds on your face afew times for a giggle then you should try to toughen up abit, im sorry but thats the way it is in pvp and always has been, for mods to wrap people in cotton wool and say to the folks with unbuttoned pants and their flies eyes dangling ready for a face slapping "no you cant do that its offensive" and then warn them with a ban pfft please come on seriously, whats this game rated again, arnt we mostly adults here who can shrug the cobblers off of us without running to mummy and telling, shrug them off, get up, have a laugh or a grumble and keep on going.

Dont get me wrong though i do think its annoying and it is bad form and bad sportsmanship but i just cannot stand the over protecting because someone got their feeling hurt, if next time you see the person who did it to you (this is what i do) and you manage to kill them just stand there, bow or salute and just walk away.

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

We can't make teabagging banable or all the cryhards who feel entitled to simulating sexual assault will complain. I can't believe that nobody is thinking of the feelings of those degenerates.

This isnt about getting sexually harassed for absurd reasons. Its about creating more respectful envoirement

Anyone who finds it acceptable to pretend to force their n**s into an unwilling person's mouth is not a person who cares much about a "respectful environment."

How can they be willing or unwilling if they are dead?

T bagging has been in online games since I can remember. Not until recently has it been a problem. People are just to sensitive these days. If it bothers somebody what pixels of fake people do then they probably shouldn't be on the internet at all. I honestly don't see why it matters what anyone name their toons.

It is more just a display of bragging more than anything else, you know before emotes. People just need thicker skin so we can throw stupid pc crap out the window.

alexkdd99 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

We can't make teabagging banable or all the cryhards who feel entitled to simulating sexual assault will complain. I can't believe that nobody is thinking of the feelings of those degenerates.

This isnt about getting sexually harassed for absurd reasons. Its about creating more respectful envoirement

Anyone who finds it acceptable to pretend to force their n**s into an unwilling person's mouth is not a person who cares much about a "respectful environment."

How can they be willing or unwilling if they are dead?

T bagging has been in online games since I can remember. Not until recently has it been a problem. People are just to sensitive these days. If it bothers somebody what pixels of fake people do then they probably shouldn't be on the internet at all. I honestly don't see why it matters what anyone name their toons.

It is more just a display of bragging more than anything else, you know before emotes. People just need thicker skin so we can throw stupid pc crap out the window.

Yes, you're absolutely right. People who simulate forcing their *** into their defeated enemies are the real victims here.

catsgomeow wrote: »

While i dont support the act of dangling ones *** in someone elses face i also do not support overly politically correct crackdowns on such behaviour either, if you are so thin skinned to be offended by something as trivial and innane as someone slapping their love spuds on your face afew times for a giggle then you should try to toughen up abit, im sorry but thats the way it is in pvp and always has been, for mods to wrap people in cotton wool and say to the folks with unbuttoned pants and their flies eyes dangling ready for a face slapping "no you cant do that its offensive" and then warn them with a ban pfft please come on seriously, whats this game rated again, arnt we mostly adults here who can shrug the cobblers off of us without running to mummy and telling, shrug them off, get up, have a laugh or a grumble and keep on going.

Dont get me wrong though i do think its annoying and it is bad form and bad sportsmanship but i just cannot stand the over protecting because someone got their feeling hurt, if next time you see the person who did it to you (this is what i do) and you manage to kill them just stand there, bow or salute and just walk away.

Dude you're talking to a generation that needs counseling if someone yells boo. To me its no big deal, I don't do it but it doesn't bother me either.

SkylarkX wrote: »

toughen up you lot.

More like

Hard people create bad circumstances
Good people create good progress in spite of the hard folk
Hard folk continue exploiting others and this sometimes creates a period of discord and wasteful aggression
Good people eventually overcome the nonsense and society continues to grow, despite the darndest efforts of self-important mean-spirit sophists

But hey simulating sexual assault with video game characters is totally gonna make you stronger, believe me.

Recremen wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

toughen up you lot.

More like

Hard people create bad circumstances
Good people create good progress in spite of the hard folk
Hard folk continue exploiting others and this sometimes creates a period of discord and wasteful aggression
Good people eventually overcome the nonsense and society continues to grow, despite the darndest efforts of self-important mean-spirit sophists

But hey simulating sexual assault with video game characters is totally gonna make you stronger, believe me.

Between the lines in this context I think its about not letting things that don't actually effect you affect you negatively.

To say t-bagging is about simulating sexual assault is a twisted stretch in my view. But if people have the need to project on to the rest of the world then so be it - but I won't be affected by it - sorry.

Recremen wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

I'm not sure teabagging itself is actually against the rules(ever seen live episodes where their guy streaming gets teabagged... like most of us rational people the ZOS team just laughs at it). But EVERYTHING you can do in this game can be considered harassment if it upsets enough people and they complain about it. One guy got a warning for dancing naked on a table because a group of RP'ers reported him for breaking their immersion.


I still don't see why people are comparing it to sexual assault... I mean yeah I get that's what the name teabagging equates to, but the actual act is that of rubbing someones nose in the fact they lost. While it would be unsportsmanlike, I would never consider myself sexually violated over someone doing this to me in a video game.

That's why it's "simulated" sexual assault. There are a dozen different ways you can gloat over a victory, but for some reason a few people seriously want to defend their choice to literally simulate a forced sex act. It's not the same as sexually violating someone, but it is similar to using racial slurs and other such language over the internet. You aren't saying it with your mouth and people aren't hearing it with their ears, but typing it in chat can elicit a response of the same nature, if not the same magnitude, in the victim. I really don't see why someone thinks that's OK.

You are one of those people that need a "safe space" aren't you?

antihero727 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

I'm not sure teabagging itself is actually against the rules(ever seen live episodes where their guy streaming gets teabagged... like most of us rational people the ZOS team just laughs at it). But EVERYTHING you can do in this game can be considered harassment if it upsets enough people and they complain about it. One guy got a warning for dancing naked on a table because a group of RP'ers reported him for breaking their immersion.


I still don't see why people are comparing it to sexual assault... I mean yeah I get that's what the name teabagging equates to, but the actual act is that of rubbing someones nose in the fact they lost. While it would be unsportsmanlike, I would never consider myself sexually violated over someone doing this to me in a video game.

That's why it's "simulated" sexual assault. There are a dozen different ways you can gloat over a victory, but for some reason a few people seriously want to defend their choice to literally simulate a forced sex act. It's not the same as sexually violating someone, but it is similar to using racial slurs and other such language over the internet. You aren't saying it with your mouth and people aren't hearing it with their ears, but typing it in chat can elicit a response of the same nature, if not the same magnitude, in the victim. I really don't see why someone thinks that's OK.

You are one of those people that need a "safe space" aren't you?

@antihero727




Actually I've had access to safe spaces for years, as they've been around in the LGBT community for decades. Never needed it myself, but it was nice to know it was there, especially when that group came in advocating the lynching of my people and dragging us on chains behind their trucks. You're pretty lucky if you've never had those kinds of experiences yourself, it's a pretty big problem for a huge number of communities and highly-targeted populations.

I love seeing people trying to defend poor sportsmanship. It is literally hilarious to see people try to justify it. Teabagging has always been antagonistic. The exclusions to that are a pre-established repertoire among friends who consent to the behavior and have a mutual /understanding/ that is all in good fun. The random person teabagging you in PVP is not the same as the examples people give of them tbagging their buddies because they knew beforehand the context of the tbagging.

Ironically, insulting people with the terms "safe spaces" or "pc" or accusing them of wanting to "sanitize culture" is the actual safe space of people who'd rather defend the indefensible than actually examine their own behavior and seek out and excise the dark parts of themselves.

Strong people grow from their mistakes. Weak people refuse to admit their mistakes. It's hard to accept we've been a terrible person, but we're all guilty of it. I am. I've done awful things. I can't take any of them back, but I can choose to be better in the future. That's what adults do. That's what strong people do.

Weak people retreat into their own righteousness. Weak people become themselves offended when they learn they've given offense, slinging insults and belittlement instead of learning what they did to cause harm and doing the hard work to be better in the future. Weak people decry a a culture of weakness and victimhood whenever called out for awful behavior, and the irony of them having made themselves into the victim completely escapes them. They take the easy path. The path where they're always right. The path where asking them to be conscientious is oppression. The path where asking them to consider others is destroying society. The path where causing offense is noble and taking offense is failure.

Weak people never ask themselves if they're the weak one.

Saltiness is the essence of teabagging. Teabagging is the essence of pvpness.