Returning to ESO

justinw_1990b16_ESO · December 2016

So me and a few friends have decided to come back to ESO after playing wow legion for a bit. So before we start playing, I've been lurking in the forums and see nothing but negativity and overall disappointment.

I know that forums are not a good judge of how a game is but I've always noticed there was a grain of truth to the complaining.

Has ESO been suffering? How's PVE and PVP(mainly)? What does the game have going for itself in the future? Just a couple questions I have about the state of the game. I will still try it out again regardless, but some input would be beneficial.

Thank you

Cazic · December 2016

If you're a returning player, ESO has for sure become better over time, but there are still issues and the community has been discussing some valid concerns. I'll try to summarize things in briefly so not to ramble.

PvE
- One Tamriel has improved PvE greatly
- Undaunted, dungeons and group finder are better than ever
- RNG is a big issue for a lot of people as many sets are now BoP
- Malestrom arena gets a lot of flack for the above point
- There's still no group finder for trials and DSA

PvP
- Lag is a lot less than it used to be
- More objextives / capture points have been added to Cyrodiil
- IC is a lot of fun
- Proc sets seem to be hurting the PvP experience for a lot of people as they can be fairly OP. ZOS has said there are adjustments coming though

Crown Crates
I only mention this because it has been a strong discussion topic and has generated a lot of negativity. Its up to you whether you feel this sort of thing really affects the game. End of the day, its all cosmetic stuff and not P2W, so no problem of you ask me.

Bugs and other tbings
While ZOS has consistently improved and exoanded the game, there are still bugs and other things that are still annoying.
- Guild trader interface sicks
- Group bugs such as markers disappearing or group mates sinking into the ground
- Mail system delays
- No gear preview

Things to look forward to
Player housing + furniture crafting are coming in the new year. That's huge. There are other DLCs rumored to be in the works, but nothing else confirmed. There will be a Road Ahead article released in January with more info.

That's really just skimming the surface, but I hope this helps! I 100℅ recommend coming back and trying ESO out again.

BlackSparrow · December 2016

Oh boy. Can's open, worms everywhere...

You are going to get a dozen different answers from a dozen different people, here. Some people will talk about how proc sets and crown crates are killing the game, while other players will talk about how One Tamriel is going to make ESO better than WOW and squee about player housing coming first quarter of next year. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

The general consensus seems to be that pvp is imbalanced atm (but honestly, I've seen this criticism for two years straight), while pve is on the up-swing since One Tamriel. But you'll get dissenting voices on both those things, because everyone's gameplay experience is different.

These forums are not a good gauge of how much you, individually, will enjoy the game... even less so than other gaming forums I've spent time in. The best thing to do is to dive in and spend a few days doing what you like to do in-game. If you're "coming back to it" then I assume you already have the box... it's free to play after purchase, so just hop in and see if you like the changes that have been made. If so, welcome back! If not, no worries, there are plenty of other MMOs out there.

Publius_Scipio · December 2016

Welcome back

Pops_ND_Irish · December 2016

Welcome back !
The game is better than ever !
Do not listen to the "flames" make your own judgement !

Riga_Mortis · December 2016

Welcome back

There are still some issues but I think the game is in the best shape it's ever been in thus far imo

Rohamad_Ali · December 2016

I'm just happy these days if a dev actually acknowledges a problem and the game stops crashing . Set expectations low and you'll never be disappointed .

justinw_1990b16_ESO · December 2016

Thank you to everyone for the input. I'm looking forward to jumping in and experiencing the game again.

See you all in game!

Subfocus · December 2016

I just came back as well, their support at the moment is the only thing that disgusts me. I've had a ticket open for over a week now, and it's not even something that serious.

Other than that, I'm enjoying the game, mainly The Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild DLC.

mb10 · December 2016

lmao the forums are always negative and trust me when I tell you all the people on here that post are the ones that love the game the most.

The ones that really hate it are long gone and casual players dont bother.

Mashille · December 2016

'- Lag is a lot less than it used to be '

'- IC is a lot of fun '

bmillbobb14_ESO · December 2016

I'm thinking about playing again. Is it true open world now or does it still have "zones"?

Rohamad_Ali · December 2016

bmillbobb14_ESO wrote: »

I'm thinking about playing again. Is it true open world now or does it still have "zones"?

All zones are open to all factions and all factions are together now . If that's what you mean by open world .

raglau · December 2016

I came back about 6 weeks ago after a year off, and have played the most frequently I ever have. The game is in a far better state than when I left. Lots of people around, nice people too, i was skeptical of 1T but it means I can group with anyone anywhere I like, so loads of accessible PvE content now. Finally the DLC brought us a few dungeons with a decent level of challenge, long may this trend continue.

Issues:

Performance still sucks at times, significant lag spikes, inconsistent FPS - 144 one minute then 30 the next. Support from ZOS is the worst it's ever been, considering I pay a sub and we have all bought content, it's insulting to receive such shockingingly abysmal support from a supplier, only in the gaming world could a company get away with treating their customers this badly. Still, I suck it up because I enjoy the game a lot.

AzuraKin · December 2016

Cazic wrote: »

If you're a returning player, ESO has for sure become better over time, but there are still issues and the community has been discussing some valid concerns. I'll try to summarize things in briefly so not to ramble.

PvE
- One Tamriel has improved PvE greatly
- Undaunted, dungeons and group finder are better than ever
- RNG is a big issue for a lot of people as many sets are now BoP
- Malestrom arena gets a lot of flack for the above point
- There's still no group finder for trials and DSA

PvP
- Lag is a lot less than it used to be
- More objextives / capture points have been added to Cyrodiil
- IC is a lot of fun
- Proc sets seem to be hurting the PvP experience for a lot of people as they can be fairly OP. ZOS has said there are adjustments coming though

Crown Crates
I only mention this because it has been a strong discussion topic and has generated a lot of negativity. Its up to you whether you feel this sort of thing really affects the game. End of the day, its all cosmetic stuff and not P2W, so no problem of you ask me.

Bugs and other tbings
While ZOS has consistently improved and exoanded the game, there are still bugs and other things that are still annoying.
- Guild trader interface sicks
- Group bugs such as markers disappearing or group mates sinking into the ground
- Mail system delays
- No gear preview

Things to look forward to
Player housing + furniture crafting are coming in the new year. That's huge. There are other DLCs rumored to be in the works, but nothing else confirmed. There will be a Road Ahead article released in January with more info.

That's really just skimming the surface, but I hope this helps! I 100℅ recommend coming back and trying ESO out again.

rng crates in crown store: starts as cosmetic, add combat items (potions ect), then add gear and weapons, then add gear and weapons stronger then crafted/dropped in game.

Cazic · December 2016

AzuraKin wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

If you're a returning player, ESO has for sure become better over time, but there are still issues and the community has been discussing some valid concerns. I'll try to summarize things in briefly so not to ramble.

PvE
- One Tamriel has improved PvE greatly
- Undaunted, dungeons and group finder are better than ever
- RNG is a big issue for a lot of people as many sets are now BoP
- Malestrom arena gets a lot of flack for the above point
- There's still no group finder for trials and DSA

PvP
- Lag is a lot less than it used to be
- More objextives / capture points have been added to Cyrodiil
- IC is a lot of fun
- Proc sets seem to be hurting the PvP experience for a lot of people as they can be fairly OP. ZOS has said there are adjustments coming though

Crown Crates
I only mention this because it has been a strong discussion topic and has generated a lot of negativity. Its up to you whether you feel this sort of thing really affects the game. End of the day, its all cosmetic stuff and not P2W, so no problem of you ask me.

Bugs and other tbings
While ZOS has consistently improved and exoanded the game, there are still bugs and other things that are still annoying.
- Guild trader interface sicks
- Group bugs such as markers disappearing or group mates sinking into the ground
- Mail system delays
- No gear preview

Things to look forward to
Player housing + furniture crafting are coming in the new year. That's huge. There are other DLCs rumored to be in the works, but nothing else confirmed. There will be a Road Ahead article released in January with more info.

That's really just skimming the surface, but I hope this helps! I 100℅ recommend coming back and trying ESO out again.

rng crates in crown store: starts as cosmetic, add combat items (potions ect), then add gear and weapons, then add gear and weapons stronger then crafted/dropped in game.

Well, that's not the current situation, and really just a bunch of assumptions. I was describing the game in its current state as the OP is thinking about coming back. There's another thread for crown crate discussion.

AzuraKin · December 2016

Cazic wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

If you're a returning player, ESO has for sure become better over time, but there are still issues and the community has been discussing some valid concerns. I'll try to summarize things in briefly so not to ramble.

PvE
- One Tamriel has improved PvE greatly
- Undaunted, dungeons and group finder are better than ever
- RNG is a big issue for a lot of people as many sets are now BoP
- Malestrom arena gets a lot of flack for the above point
- There's still no group finder for trials and DSA

PvP
- Lag is a lot less than it used to be
- More objextives / capture points have been added to Cyrodiil
- IC is a lot of fun
- Proc sets seem to be hurting the PvP experience for a lot of people as they can be fairly OP. ZOS has said there are adjustments coming though

Crown Crates
I only mention this because it has been a strong discussion topic and has generated a lot of negativity. Its up to you whether you feel this sort of thing really affects the game. End of the day, its all cosmetic stuff and not P2W, so no problem of you ask me.

Bugs and other tbings
While ZOS has consistently improved and exoanded the game, there are still bugs and other things that are still annoying.
- Guild trader interface sicks
- Group bugs such as markers disappearing or group mates sinking into the ground
- Mail system delays
- No gear preview

Things to look forward to
Player housing + furniture crafting are coming in the new year. That's huge. There are other DLCs rumored to be in the works, but nothing else confirmed. There will be a Road Ahead article released in January with more info.

That's really just skimming the surface, but I hope this helps! I 100℅ recommend coming back and trying ESO out again.

rng crates in crown store: starts as cosmetic, add combat items (potions ect), then add gear and weapons, then add gear and weapons stronger then crafted/dropped in game.

Well, that's not the current situation, and really just a bunch of assumptions. I was describing the game in its current state as the OP is thinking about coming back. There's another thread for crown crate discussion.

dude i used to assume rng boxes were ok, then i looked back over the years of other games that have rng boxes. trust me it will happen. people will start asking for things like tempering alloys to be in crown crates, gear that on par with dropped gear/crafted gear so they dont have to farm for it. then in order for zos to keep getting sales, they will keep putting in more powerful gear into the boxes and thus pay-2-win will happen.

Doctordarkspawn · December 2016

Cazic wrote: »

If you're a returning player, ESO has for sure become better over time, but there are still issues and the community has been discussing some valid concerns. I'll try to summarize things in briefly so not to ramble.

PvE
- One Tamriel has improved PvE greatly
- Undaunted, dungeons and group finder are better than ever
- RNG is a big issue for a lot of people as many sets are now BoP
- Malestrom arena gets a lot of flack for the above point
- There's still no group finder for trials and DSA

PvP
- Lag is a lot less than it used to be
- More objextives / capture points have been added to Cyrodiil
- IC is a lot of fun
- Proc sets seem to be hurting the PvP experience for a lot of people as they can be fairly OP. ZOS has said there are adjustments coming though

Crown Crates
I only mention this because it has been a strong discussion topic and has generated a lot of negativity. Its up to you whether you feel this sort of thing really affects the game. End of the day, its all cosmetic stuff and not P2W, so no problem of you ask me.

Bugs and other tbings
While ZOS has consistently improved and exoanded the game, there are still bugs and other things that are still annoying.
- Guild trader interface sicks
- Group bugs such as markers disappearing or group mates sinking into the ground
- Mail system delays
- No gear preview

Things to look forward to
Player housing + furniture crafting are coming in the new year. That's huge. There are other DLCs rumored to be in the works, but nothing else confirmed. There will be a Road Ahead article released in January with more info.

That's really just skimming the surface, but I hope this helps! I 100℅ recommend coming back and trying ESO out again.

I have to disagree completely on the undaunted and dungeons.

The resistance and health changes negatively impacted them raising them from things most people can do from things only people with DPS can do. The trial-level requirements have been imposed by the community with no one adhering to the same script, causing the best to only want the best and newbies hurting and not being able to do them because they dont have the build, anyone to teach them who's not acting like a ***, or the inclination via game mechanics as to what works.

Dungeons and PVE content outside of overworld content is at the lowest point it has ever been.

Cazic · December 2016

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

If you're a returning player, ESO has for sure become better over time, but there are still issues and the community has been discussing some valid concerns. I'll try to summarize things in briefly so not to ramble.

PvE
- One Tamriel has improved PvE greatly
- Undaunted, dungeons and group finder are better than ever
- RNG is a big issue for a lot of people as many sets are now BoP
- Malestrom arena gets a lot of flack for the above point
- There's still no group finder for trials and DSA

PvP
- Lag is a lot less than it used to be
- More objextives / capture points have been added to Cyrodiil
- IC is a lot of fun
- Proc sets seem to be hurting the PvP experience for a lot of people as they can be fairly OP. ZOS has said there are adjustments coming though

Crown Crates
I only mention this because it has been a strong discussion topic and has generated a lot of negativity. Its up to you whether you feel this sort of thing really affects the game. End of the day, its all cosmetic stuff and not P2W, so no problem of you ask me.

Bugs and other tbings
While ZOS has consistently improved and exoanded the game, there are still bugs and other things that are still annoying.
- Guild trader interface sicks
- Group bugs such as markers disappearing or group mates sinking into the ground
- Mail system delays
- No gear preview

Things to look forward to
Player housing + furniture crafting are coming in the new year. That's huge. There are other DLCs rumored to be in the works, but nothing else confirmed. There will be a Road Ahead article released in January with more info.

That's really just skimming the surface, but I hope this helps! I 100℅ recommend coming back and trying ESO out again.

I have to disagree completely on the undaunted and dungeons.

The resistance and health changes negatively impacted them raising them from things most people can do from things only people with DPS can do. The trial-level requirements have been imposed by the community with no one adhering to the same script, causing the best to only want the best and newbies hurting and not being able to do them because they dont have the build, anyone to teach them who's not acting like a ***, or the inclination via game mechanics as to what works.

Dungeons and PVE content outside of overworld content is at the lowest point it has ever been.

It might not be technically better in every way. But it is more accessible and there are more incentives to run a variety of dungeons.

bmillbobb14_ESO · December 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

bmillbobb14_ESO wrote: »

I'm thinking about playing again. Is it true open world now or does it still have "zones"?

All zones are open to all factions and all factions are together now . If that's what you mean by open world .

I'm sorry, I meant does it still have the loading screens betwixt zones?

Shimmer · December 2016

Don't even look at the forum drama there is none of thst in the actual game. Some friends and us did the same, and came back after playing legion and are having a blast! New dungeons and zones! Dueling! Assassinating random civilians for the dark brotherhood! Dueling! Also new in game events for seasons, they just finished the Halloween one but the New Life (xmas New Years) festival is coming soon! Plus I'm super excited for housing!

Welcome back!

pattyLtd · December 2016

Welcome back

Eso is imo still alot of fun even though its far from perfect, try it out. You might love it!

Stopnaggin · December 2016

Cazic wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

If you're a returning player, ESO has for sure become better over time, but there are still issues and the community has been discussing some valid concerns. I'll try to summarize things in briefly so not to ramble.

PvE
- One Tamriel has improved PvE greatly
- Undaunted, dungeons and group finder are better than ever
- RNG is a big issue for a lot of people as many sets are now BoP
- Malestrom arena gets a lot of flack for the above point
- There's still no group finder for trials and DSA

PvP
- Lag is a lot less than it used to be
- More objextives / capture points have been added to Cyrodiil
- IC is a lot of fun
- Proc sets seem to be hurting the PvP experience for a lot of people as they can be fairly OP. ZOS has said there are adjustments coming though

Crown Crates
I only mention this because it has been a strong discussion topic and has generated a lot of negativity. Its up to you whether you feel this sort of thing really affects the game. End of the day, its all cosmetic stuff and not P2W, so no problem of you ask me.

Bugs and other tbings
While ZOS has consistently improved and exoanded the game, there are still bugs and other things that are still annoying.
- Guild trader interface sicks
- Group bugs such as markers disappearing or group mates sinking into the ground
- Mail system delays
- No gear preview

Things to look forward to
Player housing + furniture crafting are coming in the new year. That's huge. There are other DLCs rumored to be in the works, but nothing else confirmed. There will be a Road Ahead article released in January with more info.

That's really just skimming the surface, but I hope this helps! I 100℅ recommend coming back and trying ESO out again.

I have to disagree completely on the undaunted and dungeons.

The resistance and health changes negatively impacted them raising them from things most people can do from things only people with DPS can do. The trial-level requirements have been imposed by the community with no one adhering to the same script, causing the best to only want the best and newbies hurting and not being able to do them because they dont have the build, anyone to teach them who's not acting like a ***, or the inclination via game mechanics as to what works.

Dungeons and PVE content outside of overworld content is at the lowest point it has ever been.

It might not be technically better in every way. But it is more accessible and there are more incentives to run a variety of dungeons.

Actually 1t hurt the newer player base, made the learning curve even steeper than it was before. Battle spirit let's people facepalm their way through the first bit. But when the hit cp and that battle spirit gets much lower, they then have to learn what they should have been learning from the start. Seen lots of high cp players that are simply bad.

1T brought about some good things, but it did also bring some negative. I know I have lost the incentive to run trials outside of my guild, the cost is too high with nothing to recoup my gold lost on potions. Thanks for bop.

All in all op, just jump in see if it's worth it. I will continue to play as long as I have friends here.