Radiant Destruction Nerf?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · December 2015

This is sad. I get maybe 5 hours of play time a week and have only 1 character that has taken me 6 months to get to VR15. No chance I'm rerolling a new toon.

That said, and I could be wrong but I think they upped the healing on breath of life and massively upped the healing on the second Templar heal below it that no one uses. They may have also slightly raised the damage on the triple fireball.

All may not be lost yet but as someone who has 3 spells on my DPS bar there only to make radiant destruction hit harder it's really annoying. I'm gonna have to seriously respec my toon now and I literally just spent 9k doing this a few days ago.

Evilie · December 2015

Here is a list of more Templar bugs and completely useless abilities from Springt-Über-Zwerge in a post today:

"1. No 140% bonus on shields for jabs
2. Last hit of Jabs somtimes doesnt even hit
3. no execute damage for Jesus beam
4. Radiant sweep not hitting anything at all (also 5m radius for an ultimade is ridiculous)
5. eclipse bug
6. global cooldown on toppling charge
7. completely useless sun shield
8. completely useless backlash due to cap not scaling with spell/weapondamage
9. completely useless eclipse thanks to unnessesary nerf to 1 target
10. completely useless rite of passage thanks to barrier being 100 times better
11. completely useless healing ritual
12. completely useless radiant aura thanks to potion buffs
13. why is sun fire doing firedamage as only templar skill which forces me to either not use the skill because its crap since its missing the 25% from thaumaturge or put points in elemetal expert and weakening all my other abilities

Now to passives:

1. way lower proc chance of burning light than 25%
2. ballanced warrior being everything else than ballanced (missing spelldamage)
3. enduring rays rowering templar dps (backlash)
4. light weaver being completely useless thanks to rite of passage and healing ritual being useless
5. master ritualist soulgem return bugged
6. missing ressource sustain for Templars in the passives 4% is laughable (sorcs for excample have 5% plus 15% ult cost reduction plus 20% magicka and stam regen)

And why on earth would you double nerf blazing spear I cant see any logic in nerfing the dps of the class with the lowest dps

also give us back a good aoe CC like blinding flashes
Edited by Springt-Über-Zwerge on December 2, 2015 11:24AM"

Evilie, VR16 Templar

myrrrorb14_ESO · December 2015

Evilie wrote: »

Here is a list of more Templar bugs and completely useless abilities from Springt-Über-Zwerge in a post today:

"1. No 140% bonus on shields for jabs
2. Last hit of Jabs somtimes doesnt even hit
3. no execute damage for Jesus beam
4. Radiant sweep not hitting anything at all (also 5m radius for an ultimade is ridiculous)
5. eclipse bug
6. global cooldown on toppling charge
7. completely useless sun shield
8. completely useless backlash due to cap not scaling with spell/weapondamage
9. completely useless eclipse thanks to unnessesary nerf to 1 target
10. completely useless rite of passage thanks to barrier being 100 times better
11. completely useless healing ritual
12. completely useless radiant aura thanks to potion buffs
13. why is sun fire doing firedamage as only templar skill which forces me to either not use the skill because its crap since its missing the 25% from thaumaturge or put points in elemetal expert and weakening all my other abilities

Now to passives:

1. way lower proc chance of burning light than 25%
2. ballanced warrior being everything else than ballanced (missing spelldamage)
3. enduring rays rowering templar dps (backlash)
4. light weaver being completely useless thanks to rite of passage and healing ritual being useless
5. master ritualist soulgem return bugged
6. missing ressource sustain for Templars in the passives 4% is laughable (sorcs for excample have 5% plus 15% ult cost reduction plus 20% magicka and stam regen)

And why on earth would you double nerf blazing spear I cant see any logic in nerfing the dps of the class with the lowest dps

also give us back a good aoe CC like blinding flashes
Edited by Springt-Über-Zwerge on December 2, 2015 11:24AM"

Evilie, VR16 Templar

And now I'm sad again.

NB time?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · December 2015

Bumping for general awareness.

I'm in a glass case of emotion called the Mournhold respec room.

Forestd16b14_ESO · December 2015

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Um you talking about when nirnhoned got fixed? or did ZOS nerf templars again cause of the streamers.

They nerfed templars again. I am thoroughly convinced ZOS doesn't know what the heck they are doing!

Atleast you Templars and us Dragon Knight have each other..... wait..... idea..... let make babies and make Templar Dragons... Dragon Templars... name is a WIP.

maxjapank · December 2015

eliisra wrote: »

Justice31st wrote: »

Bunneh wrote: »

Hey, Zos; here's an idea. Why not just 'accidently' delete all existing Templars, and remove it from the character creation options?

It's clearly what you are aiming for - making it unusable so you can then justify it's removal. I would suggest you alternatively remove Aedric Spear and Dawn's Wrath as part of your evil schemes instead, but you have effectively done that already with the nerfs and seemingly unfixable broken skills.

Then what class would heal?

No need. Healers will be obsolete after next major patch, when siege debuffs cant be purged. What's the point of healers in a raid or group, when no one can be healed or purged by them? The future is all about max dps stacking Barriers.

Last patch killed tanks. Next patch kills healers. Most healers being templars, so I'm not surprised.

ZoS just going out of their way, worse every patch, to make sure no one plays anything but high mobility/burst NB and sorc in PvP.

I fully expect a post soon with "hey gang" and "we decided to removed the templar class from the game"

Anyone could purge if you had access to it in the Alliance skills. This was not a "healer thing". And healers are not going to become obsolete. Who's going to heal after the debuff is gone? Perhaps healers will see a shift to be a dps as well as a healer, but don't we already see some of that now?

Cernow · December 2015

Evilie wrote: »

Here is a list of more Templar bugs and completely useless abilities from Springt-Über-Zwerge in a post today:

"1. No 140% bonus on shields for jabs
2. Last hit of Jabs somtimes doesnt even hit
3. no execute damage for Jesus beam
4. Radiant sweep not hitting anything at all (also 5m radius for an ultimade is ridiculous)
5. eclipse bug
6. global cooldown on toppling charge
7. completely useless sun shield
8. completely useless backlash due to cap not scaling with spell/weapondamage
9. completely useless eclipse thanks to unnessesary nerf to 1 target
10. completely useless rite of passage thanks to barrier being 100 times better
11. completely useless healing ritual
12. completely useless radiant aura thanks to potion buffs
13. why is sun fire doing firedamage as only templar skill which forces me to either not use the skill because its crap since its missing the 25% from thaumaturge or put points in elemetal expert and weakening all my other abilities

Now to passives:

1. way lower proc chance of burning light than 25%
2. ballanced warrior being everything else than ballanced (missing spelldamage)
3. enduring rays rowering templar dps (backlash)
4. light weaver being completely useless thanks to rite of passage and healing ritual being useless
5. master ritualist soulgem return bugged
6. missing ressource sustain for Templars in the passives 4% is laughable (sorcs for excample have 5% plus 15% ult cost reduction plus 20% magicka and stam regen)

And why on earth would you double nerf blazing spear I cant see any logic in nerfing the dps of the class with the lowest dps

also give us back a good aoe CC like blinding flashes
Edited by Springt-Über-Zwerge on December 2, 2015 11:24AM"

Evilie, VR16 Templar

Such a depressing list and something ZOS should be deeply embrassed about.

What a mess the Templar class is in now with the nerfs, the bugs, the design flaws (passed off as 'features' of the class) and general neglect compared to other classes.

Amazes me that a majority of players seem to agree that Templar is the weakest class, yet the devs just keep nerfing the few skills that do work properly, claiming they are fixing bugs, yet leave alone the bugs that damage the class.

Sad.

Turtl3Lov3 · December 2015

I'll just drop this here.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232610/flashes-or-radiant-destruction#latest

Why keep nerfing it when you can replace it.

maxjapank · December 2015

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

I'll just drop this here.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232610/flashes-or-radiant-destruction#latest

Why keep nerfing it when you can replace it.

Replacing is an option. But Radient Destruction is our only execute spell. So perhaps replacing something else with Blinding Flashes??

Essiaga · December 2015

eliisra wrote: »

I fully expect a post soon with "hey gang" and "we decided to removed the templar class from the game"

I honestly would prefer that as at least then I could know there no hope. Right now I'm holding on to few and fewer threads every day.

My second choice is magicka DK so whatevs. Maybe we all are going to wait till Dark brotherhood for fixes.

tplink3r1 · December 2015

Evilie wrote: »

Here is a list of more Templar bugs and completely useless abilities from Springt-Über-Zwerge in a post today:

"1. No 140% bonus on shields for jabs
2. Last hit of Jabs somtimes doesnt even hit
3. no execute damage for Jesus beam
4. Radiant sweep not hitting anything at all (also 5m radius for an ultimade is ridiculous)
5. eclipse bug
6. global cooldown on toppling charge
7. completely useless sun shield
8. completely useless backlash due to cap not scaling with spell/weapondamage
9. completely useless eclipse thanks to unnessesary nerf to 1 target
10. completely useless rite of passage thanks to barrier being 100 times better
11. completely useless healing ritual
12. completely useless radiant aura thanks to potion buffs
13. why is sun fire doing firedamage as only templar skill which forces me to either not use the skill because its crap since its missing the 25% from thaumaturge or put points in elemetal expert and weakening all my other abilities

Now to passives:

1. way lower proc chance of burning light than 25%
2. ballanced warrior being everything else than ballanced (missing spelldamage)
3. enduring rays rowering templar dps (backlash)
4. light weaver being completely useless thanks to rite of passage and healing ritual being useless
5. master ritualist soulgem return bugged
6. missing ressource sustain for Templars in the passives 4% is laughable (sorcs for excample have 5% plus 15% ult cost reduction plus 20% magicka and stam regen)

And why on earth would you double nerf blazing spear I cant see any logic in nerfing the dps of the class with the lowest dps

also give us back a good aoe CC like blinding flashes
Edited by Springt-Über-Zwerge on December 2, 2015 11:24AM"

Evilie, VR16 Templar

Enduring Rays doesn't affect backlash.

Turtl3Lov3 · December 2015

maxjapank wrote: »

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

I'll just drop this here.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232610/flashes-or-radiant-destruction#latest

Why keep nerfing it when you can replace it.

Replacing is an option. But Radient Destruction is our only execute spell. So perhaps replacing something else with Blinding Flashes??

If you open the poll there's a third option!

LOVE THE TURTLE

maxjapank · December 2015

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

I'll just drop this here.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232610/flashes-or-radiant-destruction#latest

Why keep nerfing it when you can replace it.

Replacing is an option. But Radient Destruction is our only execute spell. So perhaps replacing something else with Blinding Flashes??

If you open the poll there's a third option!

LOVE THE TURTLE

Come on now. You don't expect me to click on a link. Last time I did that I ended up on the dark side of the Net.

Islyn · December 2015

Kas wrote: »

i am totally sincere: dear templars, just try it out. take antoher class, fully invest in a build and experience it. it's so much fun.

No. I like my Templar even broken.

I look forward to it being fixed but I am still a really good player with it and I like it.

Lord-Gibson wrote: »

What blows my mind is how there is never a response from the devs on issues like this but will respond quickly to what will be in the crown store. Makes no sense to me. I play a Templar as well and I have since day one and even used one on the beta many years ago. I am so close to just playing another game cause I'm not re-rolling another toon. I rolled an orc for Orsinium and that's enough of that.

I was playing in Azuras Star last night and was getting killed left and right and not sure if I ever even killed anyone. That use to never happen, granted I killed as many people as I died before but it is way worse now. I do better with my vet 10 orc than I do with my maxed out Templar.

I agree that they are trying to get rid of the Templars or maybe even the Templar players.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Will you please respond to this thread in some way so that we may feel that ZOS does really give a hoot about the Templars and the players.

LOL make a CROWN STORE IS BUGGED, SELLING ME EVERYTHING LIKE 82% OFF!! and I BET ZOS shows up xD

Seriously I do wish they would just answer.

pelennor_fields · December 2015

@ZOS_GinaBruno - please check this thread out. I think my Templar's damage on radiant destruction went from 12k to 8k!

Bump/lurk