Essence Thief needs a change.

MaxwellC · December 2016

This set is pretty great for sustaining yourself but having to jump into some hoops to obtain the essence is rather tedious especially with it procing only on light attacks.

I spent about 2 hours testing this set in cyrodiil and 5 minutes testing it in a duel and in both scenarios it was pretty bad. I'd fight someone and the essence would spawn so far away from me that attempting to get it would pretty much kill me or sometimes the essence would be behind my opponent which would be tough to get especially if it's someone wih mines all over or any kind of trap.

My suggestion(s) - Make it so the set procs like poisons where it can proc off of light,heavy, and weapon abilities rather than just light, especially since you have to literally run to it.
Make it proc off of heavy and light but the essence is immediately transferred to you upon proc.
Make it proc off of heavy,light, and weapon abilities + the essence is given to you upon proc but there will be a 5-10 second cool down.

-thoughts?

kuro-dono · December 2016

no need to ruin honestly fun set and make it more like e peen elite set. i love chasing the runes, surprise my enemies that oh! i got suddenly resources. Since enemy players cant see it, they wont know the state of my resources.

Cool set that doesnt need tweaking.

RajinPVP · December 2016

The only problem i have on this set is .. it really just proc on light attack.. i hope it would proc of medium/heavy attack aswell.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono

Explain how my suggestions would ruin the set and not improve it? I offered 3 suggestions and the first one doesn't even change the fact that you run to the rune (which can be placed behind the enemy so good luck trying to get it when that happens).

kuro-dono · December 2016

option one is closest to remain as it is currently. sadly enough. ganker type ppl who use heavy/mid charges will benefit from it way more than melee range dps:er and who in their sain mind uses light attack when ganking? ofc including the *** proc builds, but here we are hoping that the wrobel builds are about to get wrecked.

instantly gaining the benefits without doing anything is similar to hundings rage, you gain boost without effort?

no.

NO.

no way we wanna make essence thief any different than its currently.

this game, no matter how much bull black/brown stuff ppl say that this * current meta ) favors casuals/randoms/trash n00bs, its still elite ppl:s game. let ppl who love running after the rune keep the fun and enjoy it.

its so damn sad that this game lacks soft caps, it lacks company that could be responsible / trusted to allow EVERYONE to have fun and they dont have skils to give us fun sets. So lets stop the talk about changing this one of the only kind fun set called essence thief.

sorry, semi drunk, so i might not sound very diplomatic, but then after all i am finnish, i dont hide shite in nice sentences

Daveheart · December 2016

kuro-dono wrote: »

option one is closest to remain as it is currently. sadly enough. ganker type ppl who use heavy/mid charges will benefit from it way more than melee range dps:er and who in their sain mind uses light attack when ganking? ofc including the *** proc builds, but here we are hoping that the wrobel builds are about to get wrecked.

instantly gaining the benefits without doing anything is similar to hundings rage, you gain boost without effort?

no.

NO.

no way we wanna make essence thief any different than its currently.

this game, no matter how much bull black/brown stuff ppl say that this * current meta ) favors casuals/randoms/trash n00bs, its still elite ppl:s game. let ppl who love running after the rune keep the fun and enjoy it.

its so damn sad that this game lacks soft caps, it lacks company that could be responsible / trusted to allow EVERYONE to have fun and they dont have skils to give us fun sets. So lets stop the talk about changing this one of the only kind fun set called essence thief.

sorry, semi drunk, so i might not sound very diplomatic, but then after all i am finnish, i dont hide shite in nice sentences

I think you're the only person I've ever seen who actually likes the rune.

Dagoth_Rac · December 2016

1). Should have proc chance off any light/medium/heavy attack. The whole "light attack" thing is a pain because of how finicky ESO is about light attacks. Hold mouse down 0.0000000001 seconds, it is a light attack. Hold mouse down 0.0000000002 seconds, it is a heavy attack (just not a "fully charged" one). Especially weaving attacks with cast or channel time skills, true light attack weaving is a real pain. Possible? Yes. But it is some pro level rotation stuff. No need to make proccing this set so hard. Besides, if your rotation and weaving and animation cancelling is that tight and perfect, you are probably using a meta set, not Essence Thief.

2). Essences should move from enemy toward player, not just wander out in some random direction. But only move a limited distance. Maybe 5 meters. So it will still be a set to aid melee players, not insta-empower gankers 30 meters away. But it will also be possible for a melee player to use without chasing stuff down all over the place, ruining rotation, and hurting DPS more than helping.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono
Yeah that doesn't justify it regardless. One suggestion out of the three that range from ok to a bit extreme imo. It's a 15% chance of happening so it's not like boom you get it now you can immediately use it, no my first suggestion says you can get it from all sources of damage but you still have to run and retrieve it, so how does that benefit you the player immediately if it hasn't even been applied to you.

I feel that you do not use this set.

kuro-dono · December 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@kuro-dono
Yeah that doesn't justify it regardless. One suggestion out of the three that range from ok to a bit extreme imo. It's a 15% chance of happening so it's not like boom you get it now you can immediately use it, no my first suggestion says you can get it from all sources of damage but you still have to run and retrieve it, so how does that benefit you the player immediately if it hasn't even been applied to you.

I feel that you do not use this set.

i think you are bit too elitist?

At best, as an stamina templar, when i use the set on my main alt, i have had at best 5 different rune on ground, 5!

how it goes. i use javelin, biting jabs, and while i do that i spam my left mouse button, even thought it doesnt show it, between each jab i hit light attack.

ofc since eso pvp is so seriously f ucked up the game thinks that i actively stop using jabs to hit light attacks. i guess i am exploiting the broken game, but thats how i get my runes showing up, no extra movements, just click left button of mouse like madman while my left hand strikes number 2 or 3 or 4 or 5, whever my biting jab is slotted at.

You want to turn the set into elite players set. i want it kept like fun set. who wins? CASUALS!!!

sets that currently are hard to abuse, but coulda have potential to turn into elites god like set> ELITES *** OFF. let us have some casual peoples sets around which involve fun element like picking the rune to surprise enemies with.

to edit> this game already rewards too much via formation of animation cancelling/spell weaving. I would be able to live still my life happily playing pvp with essence thief even if the rune didnt pop up ever due to the lack of being able to try tell the client that i spam my light attack even tho all i really do is light attack.

kuro-dono · December 2016

Daveheart wrote: »

kuro-dono wrote: »

option one is closest to remain as it is currently. sadly enough. ganker type ppl who use heavy/mid charges will benefit from it way more than melee range dps:er and who in their sain mind uses light attack when ganking? ofc including the *** proc builds, but here we are hoping that the wrobel builds are about to get wrecked.

instantly gaining the benefits without doing anything is similar to hundings rage, you gain boost without effort?

no.

NO.

no way we wanna make essence thief any different than its currently.

this game, no matter how much bull black/brown stuff ppl say that this * current meta ) favors casuals/randoms/trash n00bs, its still elite ppl:s game. let ppl who love running after the rune keep the fun and enjoy it.

its so damn sad that this game lacks soft caps, it lacks company that could be responsible / trusted to allow EVERYONE to have fun and they dont have skils to give us fun sets. So lets stop the talk about changing this one of the only kind fun set called essence thief.

sorry, semi drunk, so i might not sound very diplomatic, but then after all i am finnish, i dont hide shite in nice sentences

I think you're the only person I've ever seen who actually likes the rune.

problem with that what you trying to state is that to lots of ppl to have fun means that they need to dominate the battlefield 169% or if they cant, its no more fun, for me, i enjoy dying and wiping together with my raid pretty much evenly with me killing someone or my raid wiping enemy raid. ATM. those who use forums. big part of them are ppl who has this idea of having fun> I NEED TO WIN, ENEMIES HAVE TO DIE, OTHERWISE I CANT HAVE EVEN TINIEST BIT OF FUN.

I can honestly admit, i am extra casual, but that doesnt mean that i will run around like *** spamming jesus beam or with my current main alt, tank sorc spamming negate magic i still do my damn best to use it when i see actually serious need for it, not when i have it rdy.

Eso pvp... we all know it, its too damn *** up, thankfully zenimax seems to be waking up to nerf proctard sets? next i hope they do something about aoe dmg and aoe abilities and siege weapons. its so easy to make eso fun for everyone, but when there is so much QQ and whining and bitching and flaming going on its pretty hard to try figure out wtf to do.

to start with, essence thief can be left alone. the set is nice, and very unique.

kuro-dono · December 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@kuro-dono
Yeah that doesn't justify it regardless. One suggestion out of the three that range from ok to a bit extreme imo. It's a 15% chance of happening so it's not like boom you get it now you can immediately use it, no my first suggestion says you can get it from all sources of damage but you still have to run and retrieve it, so how does that benefit you the player immediately if it hasn't even been applied to you.

I feel that you do not use this set.

problem with that statement is> i havent used it for while, since i have swapped to use negate bot alt to fight against elite raids since i dont wanna turn my casual raid into 3..2...1 BURST raid who jumps around, runs around rocks and kills everything in choke points. My small scale alt, stamina templar, when i play with him, has essence thief 5 piece armor, valkyn scoria + either briarsheart or another similar set slotted. to me, i dont need to be super hardcore person who kills everything when i just fart. I use the runes actively for the purpose of tactical combat, not to burst, but to trap and get sudden advantage, similarly what the proc set does via RNG. Difference is, i wont burst someone down suddenly, i just get resources + wee bit of dmg boost. so i am not gonna be OP.

Erasure · December 2016

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Hold mouse down 0.0000000001 seconds, it is a light attack. Hold mouse down 0.0000000002 seconds, it is a heavy attack (just not a "fully charged" one). Especially weaving attacks with cast or channel time skills, true light attack weaving is a real pain. Possible? Yes. But it is some pro level rotation stuff.

This is purely false information. Pay attention to your character. Beginning a heavy attack has a markedly different animation than light attacking does, with any weapon. It's clearest with a fire staff: Any sort of 'medium' charged attack has two fireballs, and a light attack only has one. If you still can't tell the difference, get a combat addon to display the names of your attacks and what damage they did, medium charged attacks are always named Heavy Attack, Light attacks are separate. If you're personally incapable of lifting your finger off the button fast enough to keep it a light attack, well, that's on you.

Back on topic, I've enjoyed playing around with the Essence Thief rune on a Werewolf build before, the high mobility you have in that form syncs well with the set effect. It's not something I'd take into Trials, though. There's far too much room for nonsense happening as you try to reposition

This set has very low usage in the community, I would support it being altered to be more tempting. I don't think the effect spawn mechanics need to be changed, though. It's different and interesting to manage... perhaps it could be strengthened, to make playing the mechanic more worthwhile?

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono
You still miss the point this set does not proc from a mid heavy or damaging abilities, only by light attacks. You would not benefit from this set in actual combat unless you could cloak and spam light attacks which would get you killed regardless.

The set needs to proc off of all damaging sources except DoTs (because that'd be too OP as it can proc multiple times). The rune should spawn near you because if the target is more than I believe 8 meters away it doesn't proc so it's a waste of a set at that point. This set will not give you the resources you believe it can unless it could proc off of all sources + it's transferred to you immediately. You need to think of it in a scenario like the ones I've fought.

Scenario A. I fought a heavy armor stam sorc, essence thief proc I attempt to run to the rune that spawns right next to him but get bolt escaped and dawn breaked since I had to lay off the pressure in order to get said rune (which heals you for 2.1k or so in PvP unless you have access to major mending/vitality + CP).

Scenario B. I fight a NB who cloaks consistently, I fossilize him and light attack spam (which does significantly low damage) using my bow. Essence thief procs but obviously while I light attacked him he broke free but I run to get the essence for damage buff and was instead met with a fear into incap/surprise attack viper sting.

This has come from testing this set in open world PvP (Solo play) and like I said this set does not work how you are describing it which has me thinking that you're simply exaggerating/lying about the performance of this set.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono

kuro-dono wrote: »

i think you are bit too elitist?

Right there, offering a fix to a set that would make it much more useful and popular makes me an elitist. You just loss all credibility with me after stating that, even though that credibility was already diminishing with every post you were making which did not add up to the performance this set could actually accomplish in combat.

This right here is the problem with some players, suggesting the set needs a tweak to make it more viable in combat as you called yourself, casuals run for the hill screaming "NO NO NO! I need this set to not be popular and work more efficiently!"
Please do me a favor, post on this thread when you can actually stop exaggerating your claims regarding this set & also calling someone an elitist for making suggestions on a set.

kuro-dono · December 2016

that set currently is fun, its not too op and it performs quite well. To be adhd type minmaxer the 2 out of 3 options of your just ruins the fun purpose, then top 1 option.. it has its potential, but it just that way would become more of gankers tool. and they already have enough dont they? when ppl claim the rune goes miles away when it procs is just pure nonsense, its within range of one roll dodge and couple step added. What i can see happening is>>> ganker buffs himself up. charges heavy attack, rolls into rune while the arrow shot is in the air, and just before it lands, the arrow gets the essence thief boost, then so does the next procs and "skills" that hit the victim. no need moarr that ***. Essence thief in hands of someone who enjoy stress free fighting loves this set. So did i until i needed my negate bot more than my small scale templar.

Your nonsense of efficiency is telling me why this game keep going downhill, ppl want MOARR efficiency, ppl want moarr kill things, ppl want to feel like gods agains the current pvp gods and so on. What is the damn rush to kill someone? its either with obession of getting ap to get to the max rank or obsession of feeling damn good when someone/ or group dominates the dance floor utterly and completely. Game mechanics wise favor already too much of ppl who makes casuals look like bots/npc:s instead of realplayers. who in their sane mind can have fun when game is what it is atm.

you didnt offer fix to well performing set. all you offered was 2 junk changes and 1 change that favors certain playestyle.

Essence thief is well balanced set. even tho the rune could stay longer on ground but thats small detail to debate about.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono

kuro-dono wrote: »

that set currently is fun, its not too op and it performs quite well. To be adhd type minmaxer the 2 out of 3 options of your just ruins the fun purpose, then top 1 option.. it has its potential, but it just that way would become more of gankers tool.

Didn't I just say to stop making exaggerated claims? I just gave you two scenarios out of the many on how this set actually performs. YOU CANNOT GANK WITH THIS SET AS IT CURRENTLY IS OR WITH OPTION 1, bold and caps so you can actually read it since you seem to be missing the point. If you think you can please oh please make me a video and post it here so I can see you proc the set with your light attacks then somehow run without getting killed and killing your opponent. (With pressure on you aka being attacked or focused on)

kuro-dono wrote: »

when ppl claim the rune goes miles away when it procs is just pure nonsense, its within range of one roll dodge and couple step added.

There you go again, I will give you that it can be a bit closer but more than half of the time no it's not closer the set procs on damage on an enemy then the essence comes out of said enemy and can be behind or next to him, sometimes it comes close to you but actually no, it's not within a dodge roll and even if you do manage to get it the chances of you getting it for 12% damage would be slim if you actually fight someone who is decent at applying pressure.

You literally made a b.s scenario on how 1 light attack magically procs the set so some ganker can get the buff and beat someone.. lmao mate please if you're going to exaggerate again don't bother posting on this thread, I want people who actually use the set to provide a back and forth debate if they feel it should remain unchanged.

You talk about people like myself wanting to change things resulting in the death of the game well no actually it's casuals who drop this game after playing a month who kill the game versus someone who sticks around through all the inconsistencies so please cut the bs

I offered 3 suggestions that would make this set desirable but all you have provided as a response is a much of "Oh casuals like this set" (you've shown no evidence of you playing this set or even having it). You keep exaggerating that this set can do x y and z well if that's the case please prove me wrong, make a video of you using the set and somehow performing so well with it.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono
Here have this to clear up your misconception.
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/24130911

Birdovic · December 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@kuro-dono
Here have this to clear up your misconception.
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/24130911

Sorry I didn't read through the whole discussion, but from your video, the first thing I noticed was the abysmal proc rate.

It's stating 15%, but looks more like 5% to me.

In my opinion, they should just let it proc from light/heavy and let the rune spawn in direction of the set user, that procced it...or completely replace the rune with an orb similar to "necrotic orb" from undaunted, that floats towards the player direction when procced, for 15m.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@Birdovic
That's what I've been trying to explain to the guy but he felt you could somehow gank with this set even though it procs on light attacks + you need to get the rune which may or may not spawn near you, then you have 10 seconds to damage down the enemy and if they're attacking you... well good luck lol.

kuro-dono · December 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@kuro-dono

kuro-dono wrote: »

that set currently is fun, its not too op and it performs quite well. To be adhd type minmaxer the 2 out of 3 options of your just ruins the fun purpose, then top 1 option.. it has its potential, but it just that way would become more of gankers tool.

Didn't I just say to stop making exaggerated claims? I just gave you two scenarios out of the many on how this set actually performs. YOU CANNOT GANK WITH THIS SET AS IT CURRENTLY IS OR WITH OPTION 1, bold and caps so you can actually read it since you seem to be missing the point. If you think you can please oh please make me a video and post it here so I can see you proc the set with your light attacks then somehow run without getting killed and killing your opponent. (With pressure on you aka being attacked or focused on)

kuro-dono wrote: »

when ppl claim the rune goes miles away when it procs is just pure nonsense, its within range of one roll dodge and couple step added.

There you go again, I will give you that it can be a bit closer but more than half of the time no it's not closer the set procs on damage on an enemy then the essence comes out of said enemy and can be behind or next to him, sometimes it comes close to you but actually no, it's not within a dodge roll and even if you do manage to get it the chances of you getting it for 12% damage would be slim if you actually fight someone who is decent at applying pressure.

You literally made a b.s scenario on how 1 light attack magically procs the set so some ganker can get the buff and beat someone.. lmao mate please if you're going to exaggerate again don't bother posting on this thread, I want people who actually use the set to provide a back and forth debate if they feel it should remain unchanged.

You talk about people like myself wanting to change things resulting in the death of the game well no actually it's casuals who drop this game after playing a month who kill the game versus someone who sticks around through all the inconsistencies so please cut the bs

I offered 3 suggestions that would make this set desirable but all you have provided as a response is a much of "Oh casuals like this set" (you've shown no evidence of you playing this set or even having it). You keep exaggerating that this set can do x y and z well if that's the case please prove me wrong, make a video of you using the set and somehow performing so well with it.

i used the set actively when i played with my stamina templar. didnt have back then jewelry or weapons. had to use it 5 armor which was annoying, but made it all gold with hakeijos, so i got myself fairly balanced small scale setup. used it for maybe 4-5 month.

quoting myself> "What i can see happening is>>> ganker buffs himself up. charges heavy attack, rolls into rune while the arrow shot is in the air, and just before it lands, the arrow gets the essence thief boost, then so does the next procs and "skills" that hit the victim. no need moarr that ***. Essence thief in hands of someone who enjoy stress free fighting loves this set. So did i until i needed my negate bot more than my small scale templar."

which part of that example of mine for ganker did i say "" -- light attack -- "" ? Next, when you try be insulting, make it look atleast cool, kids like you ( i refer to your skills in communicating ) and the people who i refer to killing this game gets zenimax do ridiculous changes to skills and add stupid things like detonation bombs and etc.

ANOTHER FACT> vast majority of your sheepy / casuals / extra casuals... tiny amount of them pop to eso forums to type stuff and whine about this and that. you get odd ones ofc, but they get shot down so fast that its comical. Its the mainstream good/pro/elites who are at forums spamming changes to sets and try get things to be advantageous for them. For me saying no for this buff idea of yours to essence thief doesnt btw boost my own performance, or does get me go back to play my templar due to my group activity responsibilities.

"" -- READ -- " before you state anything as an facts. Me not using essence thief at all. or me stating that the set does this, that and expecially THAT.

Learn to use word " exaggerated" correctly. when you quote me "that set currently is fun, its not too op and it performs quite well. To be adhd type minmaxer the 2 out of 3 options of your just ruins the fun purpose, then top 1 option.. it has its potential, but it just that way would become more of gankers tool." there just isnt really anywhere situation where that word fits in where i make something sound way worse or way better.

quoting again myself "Game mechanics wise favor already too much of ppl who makes casuals look like bots/npc:s instead of realplayers. who in their sane mind can have fun when game is what it is atm. DID you cherry pick the word casual from there to add into your own line of (quoting again alert) "I offered 3 suggestions that would make this set desirable but all you have provided as a response is a much of "Oh casuals like this set" (you've shown no evidence of you playing this set or even having it). You keep exaggerating that this set can do x y and z well if that's the case please prove me wrong, make a video of you using the set and somehow performing so well with it.

DID i find you again using word exaggerating?

I cant wait to see what next word you get triggered from, so far casuals, adhd minmaxer i presume? and next one...?

so, to cut this shite of mine into short for you>

- i didnt use words "light attack" to describe ganker situation.

- I correct you by stating thats its the good/pro/elites who gets these skill / combat changes happen. While things happen, Wrobel or whoever gets rest of the changes happen. the team "n00bs" dont have patience for test server testing so from that side you cant blame them for changes either.

- Vast majority of forum warriors on pvp side are the "hard core" people what are around, there is surprisingly lots of them instead hordes of n00bs whining for changes, even tho there is odd ones here and there who come whine OFC.

- learn to use words in correct situations, learn to state your facts right after having done some research on subject.

- when you insult someone, do it with style, not by salty kiddo style.

- that video> you fought mostly vs shuffle people, that skill already is dodgy enough. when shuffle or the mechanic behind gets "FIXED" your problem with procs sorts out.

- i play at PC EU azura star where essence thief was like boss level set due to the recovery and the dmg boost. most enemies are casuals / normal people who dont abuse shuffle. so at best i had 5 rune on ground when jabbing and spamming light attacks.

thats me done! wohoo!

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono
So to sum that up you again do not have any proof of owning the set or using it, you do not show evidence for your claims (I do). Lol do me a favor and just don't post on this thread I see now that you're trolling; that was pretty cute trolling someone especially when you lacked knowledge of the set other than looking up it's bonuses..
Edit: there was a time where I light attacked two templars and you fail to realize it didn't proc once on top of that the video was to show how it doesn't perform as you suggest you can with it i.e. ganking with the set.

You do not own the set so get over yourself mate, it's cool to try and say it's a good set but being entirely ignorant and then making false/exaggerated claims that someone can magically proc it from 1 light attack and follow up into a heavy weave weapon ability then you are certainty dreaming.
The other point was that you cannot use this set unless the pressure is off you which you again fail to see but no worries I don't mind educating trolls like yourself; try and first get this set then duel someone with it, that's the quickest way to find out why I believe you have a misconception about this set.

I dueled like I stated above for 5 mins and used this set in cyrodiil for 2 hours and it was pathetic how sub-par the set is. In a duel that's intense, you do not have time to spam light attacks to try and get something to proc while the enemy is heavy/medium weaving his/her attacks to follow up with another ability but you just fail to realize this while making false claims.

kuro-dono · December 2016

you are blind, you are stupid, and you dont bother to do research

Rejoice, i have photo for you of me with my main alt. Foxey o Zen.

and again, i dont need to change anything about my state of mind related to essence thief. The set is fabulous small scale set. permits alot, good boost and fun as heck.

ppl like you just suck the juice out of anything what they can.
i feel so sorry for you

i hope you are gone soon.

thankfully you are not at pc / eu so we good.

ps. let me know if you need photo showing char sheet.

pss. I finally remembered the whole setup i had on that alt when i used it actively. SO. Shoulder/helmet valkyn, 5 piece of essence thief armor, dual wield fasallas guile + jewelry and second bar was sword+shield fasallas.
AND before you start whine that the swords arent fasallas guile, thats right, its wearing for some hobo reason will power set lol. Must have moved for some strange reason the fasalla to my alt, since they werent in my bank either.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono
K mate I'm 'stupid' please provide me with a video showing you somehow performing so well with said setup. I'd love to see you perform anywhere near as you claimed to have. People like me want sets to become viable and not remain unused due to how bad it is and when you provide a video (you most likely won't because you cannot justify the set) please do so where someone is focusing on you.
I'd love to see you proc essence thief while someone is on you since it can only proc from light attacks it'll be funny seeing you try it.

Also please elaborate by what research I have not done? I've tested this set and even made a video showing why it's not good as you claim it to be and the video even provided a situation where it was ok but that situation was only possible because I wasn't being focused by the enemy.

kuro-dono · December 2016

oh god.

where i have claimed to perform so well what you try to claim that i have claimed? why do i need video to show to your stupidity that its good? stop being such an elitist *** and relax and play the game. the set is good.

You not doing research> you didnt bother to check if i actually have the set or not when i clearly do. If you say something that is fact when its not really fact makes you just look like bad ***.

you have some social issues CLEARLY. but maybe one day you will learn.

MaxwellC · December 2016

@kuro-dono
Why would I check to see if you have the set when you made a claim you failed to provide that you actually own the set, that isn't research by the way lol. Research is what I did when using this set I mean I can easily make a 30 minute video providing in-depth reasons why it's bad and even more examples of why it needs to adopt 1 out of the 3 suggestions I offered but you on the other hand have not provided any sort of evidence showing the 'research' you've done on this set other than calling someone stupid.
I said you don't own the set because you provided what was a baseless statement and I asked you to provide that you actually own said set.

I can see this is going nowhere since you just proved that the set is so bad you can't even make a video to show its validity in combat. You rather resort to calling someone an elitist because he makes a suggestion on how to improve the set and then you go on to talk about social issues which have nothing to do with this game but clearly you have them if we start analyzing what you just said because boy that sounded... yeah Imma leave it at that.

Addition: You've implied through-out this post that you think this set performs well and even have said it's fine, so please don't act like you're not defending this sets current state when you most certainly are.

Thanks for derailing the thread with your baseless claims, and insults; it's great having immature kids like yourself act tough on the forums while spouting baseless claims about this or that.