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The balance that never came
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why does Wrobel get blamed for everything?
Well if You're head of team responsible for desing of all skills and all sets You're 1st person blamed for gaps in ballancing stuff. It's even quite sad because it's lot of job to do ballancing everything and then You're in 1st line to blame when something goes wrong.0 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »Next update should have some balance in it
Keyword: Should.
The little guy named "Faith in Zos" about to be crushed by a rock is there for a reason.
Well, when I say "should", I mean it will. Whether the balance is to your liking or not is a completely different story.
I wish I had that kind of faith in a company that continues to disappoint update after update.
You could always stop playing if the game is getting worse for you after each update. Why hang around and force yourself to play a game that is like that?
I have a little friend and her name is crystal meth. She wants to meet you and spend many happy experiences together. She'll even let you have fun with her friend crown crates and all she asks is for a little donation now and then.The Legendary Nothing0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Most post like this are useless as they have nothing to do except complaining!
Developers are putting lot of efforts on free updates like one Tamriel and when it comes for their earning then people scream all over forum @ crown crates, mounts etc.
Currently PVP is not balanced but PVE sounds good and its major part of ESO.
So you can freely scream about PVP but why always complaining thid game is unbalance, have unlimited issues etc.
Game is much stable with current release (except PVP)
Edited by Lord_Eomer on November 30, 2016 2:35PM0 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Game is much stable with current release (except PVP)
Oh thank god! I retract everything bad I've ever said about them.
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Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Are you talking about Crown Crates balancing? Because it will come, don't you worry. Focus has shifted, you're archaic ideas about pvp/pve balance and focus are a thing of the past. A new day has dawned.
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Most post like this are useless as they have nothing to do except complaining!
Developers are putting lot of efforts on free updates like one Tamriel and when it comes for their earning then people scream all over forum @ crown crates, mounts etc.
Currently PVP is not balanced but PVE sounds good and its major part of ESO.
So you can freely scream about PVP but why always complaining thid game is unbalance, have unlimited issues etc.
Game is much stable with current release (except PVP)
All they did in one tamriel was increase dungeon and world boss difficulty.
They didn't make anything 'new' at all, it was all in the game.
They just battle scaled everything threw in some new sets, most which will never be used.
Moved some existing sets around and counted as a free 'dlc'PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭3rd panel: Rock rolls away, revealing the crushed "Faith in ZOS" guy while it says "Finish Him!"
4th panel: Guy gets crushed by a bunch of Crown Crates. Fatality!"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU2 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
They have a release cycle, do people have patience to wsit like an year for update?
The bugs can be fixed as per thier define priority and schedule.
Small bugs would not affect much, i play on PC and PS4 and small bugs never bothered me stop play ESO!
#NerfTheseAllTimeComplainers0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
Lol they used the words "Welcomes" and "Crown Crates" in the same sentence. I think at this point it's obvious they don't listen to anyone.4 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Most post like this are useless as they have nothing to do except complaining!
Developers are putting lot of efforts on free updates like one Tamriel and when it comes for their earning then people scream all over forum @ crown crates, mounts etc.
Currently PVP is not balanced but PVE sounds good and its major part of ESO.
So you can freely scream about PVP but why always complaining thid game is unbalance, have unlimited issues etc.
Game is much stable with current release (except PVP)
All they did in one tamriel was increase dungeon and world boss difficulty.
They didn't make anything 'new' at all, it was all in the game.
They just battle scaled everything threw in some new sets, most which will never be used.
Moved some existing sets around and counted as a free 'dlc'
Minimize it all you want, but 1T was IMO one of the best things to ever happen to PVE in this game. My own PVP experience has improved also because it's easier to get the sets I want and I just don't have the problems that so many of you do with proc sets or w/e. Shrug - but seriously it could probably be bad for your health to spend so much time raving angry about a video game.PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
They have a release cycle, do people have patience to wsit like an year for update?
The bugs can be fixed as per thier define priority and schedule.
Small bugs would not affect much, i play on PC and PS4 and small bugs never bothered me stop play ESO!
#NerfTheseAllTimeComplainers
You can make a desto ult invisible, not exactly a small problem. Ignored for 3 months.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
Lol they used the words "Welcomes" and "Crown Crates" in the same sentence. I think at this point it's obvious they don't listen to anyone.
What is wrong with Crown Crates? You do not want to see someone riding a strorm atronoth bear?
If not interested in Crown Corates then simply do not buy instead of discouraging others0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
They have a release cycle, do people have patience to wsit like an year for update?
The bugs can be fixed as per thier define priority and schedule.
Small bugs would not affect much, i play on PC and PS4 and small bugs never bothered me stop play ESO!
#NerfTheseAllTimeComplainers
You can make a desto ult invisible, not exactly a small problem. Ignored for 3 months.
But hey at least some audio got fixed
#Priority's.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...3 -
dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why does Wrobel get blamed for everything?
he gets the final word on if a balance change should go through or notPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.3 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
They have a release cycle, do people have patience to wsit like an year for update?
The bugs can be fixed as per thier define priority and schedule.
Small bugs would not affect much, i play on PC and PS4 and small bugs never bothered me stop play ESO!
#NerfTheseAllTimeComplainers
You can make a desto ult invisible, not exactly a small problem. Ignored for 3 months.
But hey at least some audio got fixed
#Priority's.
And those new hats 10/10
I look swag in them while I'm mist forming zergs with my invisible destro ult1 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Proc and Rollleepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
They have a release cycle, do people have patience to wsit like an year for update?
The bugs can be fixed as per thier define priority and schedule.
Small bugs would not affect much, i play on PC and PS4 and small bugs never bothered me stop play ESO!
#NerfTheseAllTimeComplainers
You can make a desto ult invisible, not exactly a small problem. Ignored for 3 months.
You can make bat swarm invisible too. Just wanted to point that it is an old BS they never fixed.0 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
They have a release cycle, do people have patience to wsit like an year for update?
The bugs can be fixed as per thier define priority and schedule.
Small bugs would not affect much, i play on PC and PS4 and small bugs never bothered me stop play ESO!
#NerfTheseAllTimeComplainers
You can make a desto ult invisible, not exactly a small problem. Ignored for 3 months.
But hey at least some audio got fixed
#Priority's.
And those new hats 10/10
I look swag in them while I'm mist forming zergs with my invisible destro ult
Don't forget Infernal Guardian, working as intended"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU2 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I'm definitely not a big fan of zos. I am saddened by how they do not listen to PTS bug reports, and choose to do giant updates a few times a year instead of careful incremental patches. Still, I just get a little tired of all the nonconstructive bashing. I feel like it just makes them less likely to listen to us.
They have a release cycle, do people have patience to wsit like an year for update?
The bugs can be fixed as per thier define priority and schedule.
Small bugs would not affect much, i play on PC and PS4 and small bugs never bothered me stop play ESO!
#NerfTheseAllTimeComplainers
You can make a desto ult invisible, not exactly a small problem. Ignored for 3 months.
But hey at least some audio got fixed
#Priority's.
And those new hats 10/10
I look swag in them while I'm mist forming zergs with my invisible destro ult
Don't forget Infernal Guardian, working as intended
I blame the community. We didn't report it enough on PTS1 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Are you talking about Crown Crates rebalancinhleepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Most post like this are useless as they have nothing to do except complaining!
Developers are putting lot of efforts on free updates like one Tamriel and when it comes for their earning then people scream all over forum @ crown crates, mounts etc.
Currently PVP is not balanced but PVE sounds good and its major part of ESO.
So you can freely scream about PVP but why always complaining thid game is unbalance, have unlimited issues etc.
Game is much stable with current release (except PVP)
All they did in one tamriel was increase dungeon and world boss difficulty.
They didn't make anything 'new' at all, it was all in the game.
They just battle scaled everything threw in some new sets, most which will never be used.
Moved some existing sets around and counted as a free 'dlc'
Minimize it all you want, but 1T was IMO one of the best things to ever happen to PVE in this game. My own PVP experience has improved also because it's easier to get the sets I want and I just don't have the problems that so many of you do with proc sets or w/e. Shrug - but seriously it could probably be bad for your health to spend so much time raving angry about a video game.
1T was great but it wasn't new content. I've seen no time line for anything, only datamined bits of maybe stuff. If your pvp experience is better and you've got no issues with proc sets, you're either outright lying or you don't pvp at all. I guess I could believe you just started pvping so you really aren't even aware of the issues present yet.1 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »Next update should have some balance in it
Keyword: Should.
The little guy named "Faith in Zos" about to be crushed by a rock is there for a reason.
Well, when I say "should", I mean it will. Whether the balance is to your liking or not is a completely different story.
I wish I had that kind of faith in a company that continues to disappoint update after update.
For me this company continues to live up to or exceed my expectations patch after patch - but since i dont expect perfection or everything to my liking my expectations include a broader range than some others may.
But the game right now in 1T is the best it has been to date, IMO, flaws and all.
Performance and PVP has gone down the drain. As long as you don't care about them two things, the game is in an amazing state.
Well for me i dont care about PVP.
If pvp works well thats great. if it doesn't no big deal as far as affecting me.
As for performance, i see no problems daily with my new pc finally in the mix.
So again...
But the game right now in 1T is the best it has been to date, IMO, flaws and all.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."0 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Should tweak small things every 2 weeks or something.
This would be great. Having to wait several months for serious balance updates is a bit ridiculous. If they made minor changes more often, things would far easier for them to balance.
Literally first 2 weeks of this patch this forum had like 6 desto ult OP threads front page at all times.
All it takes it 'Eye of the strorm morph has it's dmg reduced by 20%, the ult is now blockable'
There... saved 3 months of annoying as easy mode as well and 100+ threads.
And the day before that there were multiple many over the top destro ult is crap threads and the last little buff to damage was not a game changer of epic proportions... so maybe just maybe forum threads about whats good and whats bad aren't the oracle of the gods into game design that some might see them as.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."0 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭Callous2208 wrote: »Are you talking about Crown Crates rebalancinhleepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Most post like this are useless as they have nothing to do except complaining!
Developers are putting lot of efforts on free updates like one Tamriel and when it comes for their earning then people scream all over forum @ crown crates, mounts etc.
Currently PVP is not balanced but PVE sounds good and its major part of ESO.
So you can freely scream about PVP but why always complaining thid game is unbalance, have unlimited issues etc.
Game is much stable with current release (except PVP)
All they did in one tamriel was increase dungeon and world boss difficulty.
They didn't make anything 'new' at all, it was all in the game.
They just battle scaled everything threw in some new sets, most which will never be used.
Moved some existing sets around and counted as a free 'dlc'
Minimize it all you want, but 1T was IMO one of the best things to ever happen to PVE in this game. My own PVP experience has improved also because it's easier to get the sets I want and I just don't have the problems that so many of you do with proc sets or w/e. Shrug - but seriously it could probably be bad for your health to spend so much time raving angry about a video game.
1T was great but it wasn't new content. I've seen no time line for anything, only datamined bits of maybe stuff. If your pvp experience is better and you've got no issues with proc sets, you're either outright lying or you don't pvp at all. I guess I could believe you just started pvping so you really aren't even aware of the issues present yet.
I've been here since beta, and I spend a lot of time PVPing. Just because you disagree with me doesn't make me a liar.PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Should tweak small things every 2 weeks or something.
This would be great. Having to wait several months for serious balance updates is a bit ridiculous. If they made minor changes more often, things would far easier for them to balance.
Literally first 2 weeks of this patch this forum had like 6 desto ult OP threads front page at all times.
All it takes it 'Eye of the strorm morph has it's dmg reduced by 20%, the ult is now blockable'
There... saved 3 months of annoying as easy mode as well and 100+ threads.
And the day before that there were multiple many over the top destro ult is crap threads and the last little buff to damage was not a game changer of epic proportions... so maybe just maybe forum threads about whats good and whats bad aren't the oracle of the gods into game design that some might see them as.
If I remember correctly, it kind of was crap. It had similar damage to Standard yet zero of the utility. So instead of adding utility to the destro ulti or giving it a small buff, they basically tripled the damage and went "there ya go lads".1 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »Next update should have some balance in it
Keyword: Should.
The little guy named "Faith in Zos" about to be crushed by a rock is there for a reason.
Well, when I say "should", I mean it will. Whether the balance is to your liking or not is a completely different story.
I wish I had that kind of faith in a company that continues to disappoint update after update.
For me this company continues to live up to or exceed my expectations patch after patch - but since i dont expect perfection or everything to my liking my expectations include a broader range than some others may.
But the game right now in 1T is the best it has been to date, IMO, flaws and all.
Performance and PVP has gone down the drain. As long as you don't care about them two things, the game is in an amazing state.
Well for me i dont care about PVP.
If pvp works well thats great. if it doesn't no big deal as far as affecting me.
As for performance, i see no problems daily with my new pc finally in the mix.
So again...
But the game right now in 1T is the best it has been to date, IMO, flaws and all.
I tend to agree with you, minus the scam boxes. I just worry because the content updates seem to be getting smaller and smaller, and other gameplay issues seem to be getting ignored. I don't have many performance issues either, but I'd like if they could at least release some info on what's to come/what they are looking at improving. If I could get that, I may be able to ignore the scam box/f2p game type moves they're making.0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Callous2208 wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »Next update should have some balance in it
Keyword: Should.
The little guy named "Faith in Zos" about to be crushed by a rock is there for a reason.
Well, when I say "should", I mean it will. Whether the balance is to your liking or not is a completely different story.
I wish I had that kind of faith in a company that continues to disappoint update after update.
For me this company continues to live up to or exceed my expectations patch after patch - but since i dont expect perfection or everything to my liking my expectations include a broader range than some others may.
But the game right now in 1T is the best it has been to date, IMO, flaws and all.
Performance and PVP has gone down the drain. As long as you don't care about them two things, the game is in an amazing state.
Well for me i dont care about PVP.
If pvp works well thats great. if it doesn't no big deal as far as affecting me.
As for performance, i see no problems daily with my new pc finally in the mix.
So again...
But the game right now in 1T is the best it has been to date, IMO, flaws and all.
I tend to agree with you, minus the scam boxes. I just worry because the content updates seem to be getting smaller and smaller, and other gameplay issues seem to be getting ignored. I don't have many performance issues either, but I'd like if they could at least release some info on what's to come/what they are looking at improving. If I could get that, I may be able to ignore the scam box/f2p game type moves they're making.
Yeah, a lot of the frustration from players does come from lack of communication. We're just running around like chickens with no heads while they withhold ANY information.
Considering the huge amount of threads regarding the destro ulti and infernal guardian, they have yet to comment on either from what I've seen.1 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Callous2208 wrote: »Are you talking about Crown Crates rebalancinhleepalmer95 wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Most post like this are useless as they have nothing to do except complaining!
Developers are putting lot of efforts on free updates like one Tamriel and when it comes for their earning then people scream all over forum @ crown crates, mounts etc.
Currently PVP is not balanced but PVE sounds good and its major part of ESO.
So you can freely scream about PVP but why always complaining thid game is unbalance, have unlimited issues etc.
Game is much stable with current release (except PVP)
All they did in one tamriel was increase dungeon and world boss difficulty.
They didn't make anything 'new' at all, it was all in the game.
They just battle scaled everything threw in some new sets, most which will never be used.
Moved some existing sets around and counted as a free 'dlc'
Minimize it all you want, but 1T was IMO one of the best things to ever happen to PVE in this game. My own PVP experience has improved also because it's easier to get the sets I want and I just don't have the problems that so many of you do with proc sets or w/e. Shrug - but seriously it could probably be bad for your health to spend so much time raving angry about a video game.
1T was great but it wasn't new content. I've seen no time line for anything, only datamined bits of maybe stuff. If your pvp experience is better and you've got no issues with proc sets, you're either outright lying or you don't pvp at all. I guess I could believe you just started pvping so you really aren't even aware of the issues present yet.
I've been here since beta, and I spend a lot of time PVPing. Just because you disagree with me doesn't make me a liar.
There is no way you are blind to these issues then. Cyrodiil is literally Elder Procs Online. I concede that it is possible you aren't lying, and you prefer a more unskilled, one shot proc/destro ult type of pvp.2 -
SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »Next update should have some balance in it
Keyword: Should.
The little guy named "Faith in Zos" about to be crushed by a rock is there for a reason.
Well, when I say "should", I mean it will. Whether the balance is to your liking or not is a completely different story.
I wish I had that kind of faith in a company that continues to disappoint update after update.
For me this company continues to live up to or exceed my expectations patch after patch - but since i dont expect perfection or everything to my liking my expectations include a broader range than some others may.
But the game right now in 1T is the best it has been to date, IMO, flaws and all.
Performance and PVP has gone down the drain. As long as you don't care about them two things, the game is in an amazing state.
Performance has gone down the drain? Seriously? Dont you remember the absolutely unplayable state that was maim campaign previous patches? Performance is doing great.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I want to know why ZOS has been so silent since One Tamriel released. That was a massive patch to release into the game.
We got TONS of new sets including Undaunted sets and new Ultimate skills. Feedback on these additions and bugs should be addressed more now than ever before.
Instead, our feedback was almost entirely ignored on PTS and it's as if ZOS completely stopped caring now that they've stayed so silent after One Tamriel's release.
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