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Who should be the one to rez the dead?
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Niaver✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer
Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.
Yep. And if you decide whom to res, it's also simple: Healer > Tank > DPSPC EU - Daggerfall Covenant - @Niaver
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭The most logical character for it would be a Templar who is wearing 5 piece kagrenacs. Generally though.... whoever is closest and has no aggro. Even then it depends on the situation. With a crowd of enemies when everyone Is under the fire then it's probs a good idea for the Tank to do it. In an ideal world there'll be a tank and stam dps at the front (where the Tank supports the dps), a magicka dps and healer working at range. In that formation neither the healer or tank should fall in battle and are both on call for resing the dps if need be. It's rare for things to work out this way though because there aren't enough tanks doing the dungeons in my opinion.Edited by Jimbullbee85 on November 28, 2016 5:31PMJimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage0 -
Hot_spur✭✭✭I'm DPS, and I always try to rez. But I often have a hard time finding the dead person. I wish there was an icon that I could turn on.
So, often I run around frantically searching, only to get killed myself.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »If there is no communication in the group, then the DPS should always assume it's their job to res. If there is, then when someone drops, you assess the situation. If it is safe for the healer to res, they absolutely should do it. If they are a templar, it will be faster and the fallen will come back with more resources. If it's not safe, then it's the DPS's Job. If two people or more are down, then both healer and DPS should be trying to res. Things generally have to be pretty out of hand for the tanks to be res'ing.
I remember a situation one time with a pug group. The Tank went down and the boss immediately one-shotted the other DPS. I was on a sorc, so I started shield spam tanking the boss. I was able to hold the boss for about a minute, but the other healer wouldnt res (no mic). After we eventually wiped, I asked why they didnt res. They said it's not the healers job, which in that situation was 100% false.
If someone dies near me, and the boss is the kind of boss that hits like a wet noodle, I'll res as the tank.Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Things generally have to be pretty out of hand for the tanks to be res'ing.
If the boss is actually dangerous, then, yea, the tank would typically be the last one to res.
Everything is situational.
Both of these explain the reality that it depends on the situation. Any player that says it's not their job is incorrect.
For the oppinions that dictate a definitive rule on who should rez there are plenty of examples where it's wrong for that situation.0 -
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✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »If there is no communication in the group, then the DPS should always assume it's their job to res. If there is, then when someone drops, you assess the situation. If it is safe for the healer to res, they absolutely should do it. If they are a templar, it will be faster and the fallen will come back with more resources. If it's not safe, then it's the DPS's Job. If two people or more are down, then both healer and DPS should be trying to res. Things generally have to be pretty out of hand for the tanks to be res'ing.
I remember a situation one time with a pug group. The Tank went down and the boss immediately one-shotted the other DPS. I was on a sorc, so I started shield spam tanking the boss. I was able to hold the boss for about a minute, but the other healer wouldnt res (no mic). After we eventually wiped, I asked why they didnt res. They said it's not the healers job, which in that situation was 100% false.
If someone dies near me, and the boss is the kind of boss that hits like a wet noodle, I'll res as the tank.Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Things generally have to be pretty out of hand for the tanks to be res'ing.
If the boss is actually dangerous, then, yea, the tank would typically be the last one to res.
Everything is situational.
Both of these explain the reality that it depends on the situation. Any player that says it's not their job is incorrect.
For the oppinions that dictate a definitive rule on who should rez there are plenty of examples where it's wrong for that situation.
Yeah but there really isn't a situation where it is bad for the DPS to rez. Therefore they should be the ones to rez.
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✭✭✭✭In general, DPS first. If one of them is a Templar with good passives, then that person is ideal.
If there is a particular person that sucks at targeting (or is glitching, which was happening to me for a while) not them.
Depending on the dungeon, if the healer dies, everybody dies, so keep them out of the line of fire.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis2 -
duh....those that are alive with soul gems. Its everyone's responsibility.# JothanTheGreat
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✭Elladan_Eloheimik wrote: »duh....those that are alive with soul gems. Its everyone's responsibility.
On difficult bosses I make sure to tell the DPS that they are on rez duty, period.
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✭✭Just out of curiosity... why not self-rezzing with the soul gems (provided you have one left and die)? Or is that somehow not possible in group content?Edited by Kendaric on November 28, 2016 6:06PM0 -
Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭It really does depend on the situation but I would say the order is:
dps-tank-healer
It should always be the other dps first, if both dps are dead then it really depends on what's going on. Sometimes it may be better to leave the person down until everything is under control and then rez.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault2 -
Khaos_Bane wrote: »Elladan_Eloheimik wrote: »duh....those that are alive with soul gems. Its everyone's responsibility.
On difficult bosses I make sure to tell the DPS that they are on rez duty, period.
Yes....but DPS are the ones dead and need rezzing. Use of situational judgment is everyone's responsibility. These are team efforts.# JothanTheGreat
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✭✭Dps cause healer needs to heal and tank needs to hold agro unless someone is kags hope then dps has to rez.Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.0 -
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DurzoBlint13✭✭✭✭Damage Dealers should rez if possible. Tank holds agro while Healer heals through damage. Damage Dealers are designated 'rez'ers , and then Healer, and finally Tank if he is last left standing0
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✭puffytheslayer wrote: »Did you know??
Not all healers are templars
Just as not all templars are healers
Blasphemy!
Some are nbs and are better than templars!DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault0 -
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✭✭✭Whoever has a decent opportunity to do so should rez. It's silly to assign it to any one role as being exclusively their responsibility. Really the same should be said of any task. Buffs, debuffs, CC, even basic healing, tanking and DPS. As long as you're not forgetting your primary role, there's no reason you shouldn't be at least a little bit flexible."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."0 -
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✭Most of the time it's the DPS, but not always. If adds just spawned and the DPS started their AOE rotation so they have the aggro of most of the mobs. DPS might not be the best option.
Ultimately it boils down to who can do it with the least risk. Sometimes a DK Tank can Magma Shell > Taunt into rez, and that is the better option. It all depends on the circumstances.1
