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When is God Mode (Destro Alt) getting nerfed?
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »I can't help remembering the PTS days when destro ulti was "mathematically garbage" when compared to meteor.I swear to the good lord above.
They complained when they released it on test.
Now they are complaining because peopl are using what they said they never would.
Yes there was complaints on the pots. That is why the last patch on the pots gave it a buff. More damage in a shorter duration. This is not the same desto ult that was being complained about.
Imo, just make it blockable and give it a red circle so people know if it is friendly and so you know the exact range you need to roll out of.0 -
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✭alephthiago wrote: »The problem with the destro ulti is when multiple people run it at the same time, not the ultimate itself.
As somebody who uses the Destro ulti I have to say this is very true. I'm not a big PVP player, but even just in player duels, I've noticed that the ability doesn't kill an actual player 1 on 1. IT's strong, but against a tank or health build or virtually anybody with any sort of self-heal, not nearly strong enough, they WILL Recover.
I can see how if 4 people at once cast the same ulti, they would in fact be able to flatten a Zerg. But as a player power it's not overpowered at all -In a dungeon it will kill one single trash mob or do 120k damage to a boss (roughly) - as with most things in this game, it comes down to the fact that people run around in unnaturally large groups of like 40 people and try to pick on stragglers and then spam it.
It has a nice AOE and DoT - which brings me to my next statement - it's really not overpowered if you're smart enough to walk out of it. I saw a thread here the other day titled "Don't stand in stupid" and that basically sums this up.
The two morphs on it aren't that great - I personally did not go with Eye of the Storm, even though the radius moves with me, I feel I would crush less enemies than a well placed cast - and when you become the eye, all somebody has to do is run away 5m from you and leave 1 tank behind to fight you and you're essentially wasting your cast. The morph I chose gives 10% extra damage and even that wouldn't flatten a zerg of players with a single healer amongst their ranks.."You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I try to just stay out of it's way, and don't have much problem with it.
So let the PvE guys have another "I win button".Edited by TequilaFire on November 28, 2016 2:06PM1 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭alephthiago wrote: »First of all, no one asked for the destro ulti to be the way it is (dot aoe) what we really needed was one strong, cheap burst ultimate, but nah zos has this thing that almost EVERYTHING magicka must be dot, delayed and cost A LOT.
Now that the destro is ingame (and costing wooping 250 ultimate) if they ever nerf the ultimate it will became kinda underused like soul assault for example. The problem with the destro ulti is when multiple people run it at the same time, not the ultimate itself.
Yeah I remember that thread. So much feedback and they just made the easiest change to make everyone go away. They didn't appear to care about making it solid, just making everyone go away.
I get the sense they have some policy regarding magicka and stamina, where magicka is more group oriented and stamina is supposed to be solo oriented. But they have made each side of that policy so extreme that everyone hates both ends of it. It's a dumb policy to begin with because you lock yourself into either stamina or magicka with your gear and points but some days you want to solo, some days you want to group.Edited by Armitas on November 28, 2016 3:59PMRetired.
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heyjrey✭✭✭destro ulti's hurt, yeah, but it's all part of the fun.
no i don't use a destro staff (nor it's ultimate). i've only been at the receiving end of the ulti but damn do i love the feeling of surviving one. don't nerf it. people need to learn to work with it—learn how to survive through it. not only is the destro ulti useful in pvp, but it's also nice in pve too.
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Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ummm... just move?
It's a static AOE DOT attack. If you move your character 4-5 meters left or right, it's a non-issue.
So, move? Problem solved.
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »It's not . They will someday patch the ability to make it invisible with mist form but it's not on the chopping block just yet .
Lol they can't fix it so it will become a "feature".
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waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭God mode?
I used this in a duel against a NB half my CP and you know what happened? An invisible ninja ducked behind a tree, ambushed me and I died to a proc set effect...the storm ultimate didn't do anything.0 -
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✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »Ummm... just move?
It's a static AOE DOT attack. If you move your character 4-5 meters left or right, it's a non-issue.
So, move? Problem solved.
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Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »Ummm... just move?
It's a static AOE DOT attack. If you move your character 4-5 meters left or right, it's a non-issue.
So, move? Problem solved.
Please, try to be more educated on the matter before posting.3 -
GDOFWR420✭✭✭✭Look more cyring. Doesn't look like I'm missing much.
Why is it when magic gets something good you whiney little punks cry about it. What's wrong you can't stand having your a$$ handed to you while wearing viper+tremorscale.
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Oh...ST@U. I used it quite a bit in Cyrodiil this past weekend and rarely killed anyone. But I was killed quite quickly by everyone ganging up on me when I used. I was cc'd and killed before it really did any damage to anyone. As with many things in ESO it is only effective when synergized an synched with another. Siege weapons are worthless as they never kill anyone. To be killed by siege you have to bit hit by several siege at the same time.# JothanTheGreat
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alephthiago✭✭✭✭✭When i play with my guild against other organized groups for example, 90% of the time we know when they will come and pop 5 destro ultis + encase + talons + negate + streak, so what we do? As soon as we see them coming (buffing, poping rapids and etc) we just SPREAD, sometimes soooo much that the enemy group doesnt catch ANYONE with their combo.
For me your problem is not the ulti alone but its use in group, but remember, before 1T the same thing was achieved using talons + encase+ negate+ banner + bats + steel tornado.Walks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
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BlazingDynamo✭✭✭✭✭Please buff it more. Still sucks compared to meteor. You wanna nerf that too OP?1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People saying it's ok...
This is what is wrong on the forum, bad forum warriors defending something that is stupidly broken because it's the only way they get kills.
Nerf eye dmg by 25%, let it be blockable.
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »People saying it's ok...
This is what is wrong on the forum, bad forum warriors defending something that is stupidly broken because it's the only way they get kills.
Nerf eye dmg by 25%, let it be blockable.
Sorted.
Blockable yes. Also need red circles.
Shouldnt we test out how it is when your able to block and see red circles first? You also dont want to over nerf it.
That said, what about keeping the same overall damage, but extend the duration and less hits per tick? Something in between the buff it saw on pts and the original way it was on pts?1 -
Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
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The logic in this one....
"I can't kill people with it, so it's okay"Elladan_Eloheimik wrote: »Oh...ST@U. I used it quite a bit in Cyrodiil this past weekend and rarely killed anyone. But I was killed quite quickly by everyone ganging up on me when I used. I was cc'd and killed before it really did any damage to anyone. As with many things in ESO it is only effective when synergized an synched with another. Siege weapons are worthless as they never kill anyone. To be killed by siege you have to bit hit by several siege at the same time.
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Because "I died to it, therefore it's OP" is even better.Unsent.Soul wrote: »
The logic in this one....
"I can't kill people with it, so it's okay"Elladan_Eloheimik wrote: »Oh...ST@U. I used it quite a bit in Cyrodiil this past weekend and rarely killed anyone. But I was killed quite quickly by everyone ganging up on me when I used. I was cc'd and killed before it really did any damage to anyone. As with many things in ESO it is only effective when synergized an synched with another. Siege weapons are worthless as they never kill anyone. To be killed by siege you have to bit hit by several siege at the same time.
Get used to it. Magicka users have a decent ultimate. Stamina had their fun for six months since DB, now when some of you die to a sorc and the game is suddenly broken...
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Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
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Because "I died to it, therefore it's OP" is even better.Unsent.Soul wrote: »
The logic in this one....
"I can't kill people with it, so it's okay"Elladan_Eloheimik wrote: »Oh...ST@U. I used it quite a bit in Cyrodiil this past weekend and rarely killed anyone. But I was killed quite quickly by everyone ganging up on me when I used. I was cc'd and killed before it really did any damage to anyone. As with many things in ESO it is only effective when synergized an synched with another. Siege weapons are worthless as they never kill anyone. To be killed by siege you have to bit hit by several siege at the same time.
Get used to it. Magicka users have a decent ultimate. Stamina had their fun for six months since DB, now when some of you die to a sorc and the game is suddenly broken...
Just like you assume I'm advocating for a nerf, yes that's what the thread is titled, but no... I haven't personally asked for any NERFS to this ultimate.
Every character I have is magicka related, you think I don't love this ultimate? I've been killed by it dozens of times but personally I'm not the one on the soap box, champ.
Your whole point of "get used too it" is what's wrong with most people that play this game...
Get used to the visuals being completely absent most times? Get used to having people gap close to you with the attack not being telegraphed?
Just like everyone should just get used too the proc sets right?
Open your eyes...2 -
DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about the other ults get brought up to par with it? I mean for a 250 cost it does what an ult of that much cost should do. But other ults could use some love like bats.0 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »I can't help remembering the PTS days when destro ulti was "mathematically garbage" when compared to meteor.
Speaking only in terms of PvE:
Hope you are aware that destro fire ulti does less damage per ulti than meteor. The situations in which it is better are when the adds are not clustered in one area. If you have tested the damage in raids then you will find that meteor is by far preferrable on single target fights or fights where all adds are clustered. That being said, the lightning destro ultimate does more damage per ulti than Meteor and Fire destro ulti (even with debuffs such as engulfing flames on the target) and is thus BiS. Also the orginal destro ulti WAS utter garabage. It did half its current damage and had a 10 second duration. After the buff it now is appropriately tuned.
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Sheey✭✭✭✭Lets raise Incap from 50 to 250 and raise its damage from 8k to 40k . Nobody would complain i am pretty sure.1
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DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭If they actually balanced the game i.e. Take incap and what it does currently and apply that to the other ults it would be great. A 250 cost ult that actually takes time to build up and hurts when used yes plz. A 50 cost ult that does 8k along with other things. I mean it's so cheap and does so much. Why can't the other ults be brought up to par? J/sEdited by DUTCH_REAPER on November 28, 2016 8:25PM0
