Crown crates will have time limited items.

  • mb10
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    Absolutely ridiculous that they have limited time items in the crates.

    Its just so pathetic what this company does for a little money.

    Just read a few [Snip] lore books and re-paint your old content like youve done with most mounts instead of giving us your old crap back

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  • Darkstorne
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    Is that a bad thing? I've got quite a few "time limited" items, like the Clouded Senche and Elven Hero Armour, and I'm fine with this. They're still going to be super rare, it just gives newer players a SLIM chance of getting these items too.

    If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed.

    If you don't play often, and usually miss the time limited offers, you'll have to gamble with Crown Crates and likely spend significantly more money to obtain these items.

    Maybe it's annoying people because it's trying to compromise and meet in the middle? Greedy players want their rare items to be locked away FOREVER. Needy players want time limited items back on the store for ease of access FOREVER. This is a solution that's supposed to be catering to both camps, but apparently is just annoying everyone instead.
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    Oh no, the snowflakes are melting.
  • Sigtric
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    Reintroducing limited time items was the original point of the Crown Crates, wasn't it? It's the items that are Crown Crate exclusives that are the issue here.

    That is a separate issue. OP's concern is previously available limited time offerings are returning via crates

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  • Rouven
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    Oh no, the snowflakes are melting.

    Well, I'm not sure about snowflakes. I do know that that if I'd miss a sale in the future it will be to me like rubbing salt into a wound.

    I'm totally fine with unobtainable former sales - if they come back in a regular fashion the better - gambling for it is not really my thing.
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  • Stopnaggin
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    Who hasn't missed out on a limited time deal? It happens and I deal with it. I'm against crates, but that is what they are doing. I don't care exclusive or limited the item is, I will not gamble at the prices and drop rates they have.

    Will this mean they will go away, probably not. It's pretty clear they are headed more towards microtransactions. They have to make money, but I will not gamble money away for something that i may or may not get.

    I didn't like the crown store exclusive motif deal, but I bought it, and now it's mine. No way I would have ever gambled to get it. It had a set price that at least to me had value. I still don't like it, nothing should be in the store that isn't in the game, within reason. Costumes and hairstyles that's fine, but when things that are a gold to real life money issue than it starts to become a problem. Crown crates, Ahh don't like em don't buy em. Nothing in this game was exclusive, we'll maybe the youkedan charger, but that was a rare bone to console players.
  • Enodoc
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    Enodoc wrote: »
    Reintroducing limited time items was the original point of the Crown Crates, wasn't it? It's the items that are Crown Crate exclusives that are the issue here.
    That is a separate issue. OP's concern is previously available limited time offerings are returning via crates
    Right, and as I said, limited time items returning in the crates was the whole point of the crates in the first place.
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  • Remorseless
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    Will these crates contain a potato on wheels as a mount?
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    Just a heads up. ZOS released a hot fix on the new ambrosia page for pc today....they had to increase it..which means it never existed given the content of the thread.

    Who reckons they'll be doing that with crown crates.

    "Soz we didn't include Atro mounts to the loot table, we increased the drop rate, please insert more crowns and try again" I see this happening now.
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  • MissBizz
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Is that a bad thing? I've got quite a few "time limited" items, like the Clouded Senche and Elven Hero Armour, and I'm fine with this. They're still going to be super rare, it just gives newer players a SLIM chance of getting these items too.

    If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed.

    If you don't play often, and usually miss the time limited offers, you'll have to gamble with Crown Crates and likely spend significantly more money to obtain these items.

    Maybe it's annoying people because it's trying to compromise and meet in the middle? Greedy players want their rare items to be locked away FOREVER. Needy players want time limited items back on the store for ease of access FOREVER. This is a solution that's supposed to be catering to both camps, but apparently is just annoying everyone instead.

    @Darkstorne I think it really does annoy everyone instead, haha. I'm like you, I have been around a long time and purchased all the limited time stuff I wanted. Unfortunately though once these crates are unveiled a portion of your thread won't really be true anymore :/

    "If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed."
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  • Darkstorne
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Is that a bad thing? I've got quite a few "time limited" items, like the Clouded Senche and Elven Hero Armour, and I'm fine with this. They're still going to be super rare, it just gives newer players a SLIM chance of getting these items too.

    If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed.

    If you don't play often, and usually miss the time limited offers, you'll have to gamble with Crown Crates and likely spend significantly more money to obtain these items.

    Maybe it's annoying people because it's trying to compromise and meet in the middle? Greedy players want their rare items to be locked away FOREVER. Needy players want time limited items back on the store for ease of access FOREVER. This is a solution that's supposed to be catering to both camps, but apparently is just annoying everyone instead.

    @Darkstorne I think it really does annoy everyone instead, haha. I'm like you, I have been around a long time and purchased all the limited time stuff I wanted. Unfortunately though once these crates are unveiled a portion of your thread won't really be true anymore :/

    "If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed."

    @MissBizz Oh? I assumed Crown Crates would only sell PAST items no longer in the crown store, and that new items (mounts, armour sets etc) would be on the crown store first in the same way they work today, and only get moved to crown crates when they expire.

    Do you mean time limited items are now no longer happening, and will only be available through crates from now on? Because that would be disgusting and completely unacceptable.
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Is that a bad thing? I've got quite a few "time limited" items, like the Clouded Senche and Elven Hero Armour, and I'm fine with this. They're still going to be super rare, it just gives newer players a SLIM chance of getting these items too.

    If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed.

    If you don't play often, and usually miss the time limited offers, you'll have to gamble with Crown Crates and likely spend significantly more money to obtain these items.

    Maybe it's annoying people because it's trying to compromise and meet in the middle? Greedy players want their rare items to be locked away FOREVER. Needy players want time limited items back on the store for ease of access FOREVER. This is a solution that's supposed to be catering to both camps, but apparently is just annoying everyone instead.

    @Darkstorne I think it really does annoy everyone instead, haha. I'm like you, I have been around a long time and purchased all the limited time stuff I wanted. Unfortunately though once these crates are unveiled a portion of your thread won't really be true anymore :/

    "If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed."

    @MissBizz Oh? I assumed Crown Crates would only sell PAST items no longer in the crown store, and that new items (mounts, armour sets etc) would be on the crown store first in the same way they work today, and only get moved to crown crates when they expire.

    Do you mean time limited items are now no longer happening, and will only be available through crates from now on? Because that would be disgusting and completely unacceptable.

    Crown crates will have items in them that are exclusive to the crates. If it's anything like the PTS was, a LOT of items will be exclusive to the crates actually. I imagine they will still have limited time offers, but they won't be for the crate exclusive items.

    If it was only past items, I wouldn't have an issue with them either.
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  • Abeille
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Is that a bad thing? I've got quite a few "time limited" items, like the Clouded Senche and Elven Hero Armour, and I'm fine with this. They're still going to be super rare, it just gives newer players a SLIM chance of getting these items too.

    If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed.

    If you don't play often, and usually miss the time limited offers, you'll have to gamble with Crown Crates and likely spend significantly more money to obtain these items.

    Maybe it's annoying people because it's trying to compromise and meet in the middle? Greedy players want their rare items to be locked away FOREVER. Needy players want time limited items back on the store for ease of access FOREVER. This is a solution that's supposed to be catering to both camps, but apparently is just annoying everyone instead.

    @Darkstorne I think it really does annoy everyone instead, haha. I'm like you, I have been around a long time and purchased all the limited time stuff I wanted. Unfortunately though once these crates are unveiled a portion of your thread won't really be true anymore :/

    "If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed."

    @MissBizz Oh? I assumed Crown Crates would only sell PAST items no longer in the crown store, and that new items (mounts, armour sets etc) would be on the crown store first in the same way they work today, and only get moved to crown crates when they expire.

    Do you mean time limited items are now no longer happening, and will only be available through crates from now on? Because that would be disgusting and completely unacceptable.

    We don't know if limited items are now no longer happening.

    What we do know is that most of the items available through the crates on the PTS were crate-exclusive. All the new ones, to be more specific.

    Here, a post I made a while ago:
    Abeille wrote: »
    Ilsabet wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Items received:

    Purple Diggerback Pet

    Nooooo that was something I wanted and was excited to see datamined. Now I have to be sad if they're just going to be in the crates. :(

    I'm really sorry, I know how that feels :/

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    For comparison, this is how a pet that was previously available for direct purchase looks like when you get it from the Crown Crates:
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Khajiit would like some clarification yes. Which of the items available for gems are crate exclusive and which are meant to represent items previously in the store?

    Khajiit sees one of two things she would like, however the rate of gems given for duplicate items seems very low.

    Yours with paws
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    I want to know this too.

    The "Apex Rewards" are Crown Crates exclusives, right? What about the stuff in the other tiers that were not released yet? Red Pit Wolf, Black Mane Lion? Are these Crown Crates exclusives or will they be sold directly eventually?
    Any item that's a Crown Crate exclusive should say so in the tooltip (it says something along the lines of "Available for purchase in Crown Crates").
    Abeille wrote: »
    So, unless there is some mistake, I'm afraid we are looking at a huge number of Crown Crate exclusives in the future.

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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Is that a bad thing? I've got quite a few "time limited" items, like the Clouded Senche and Elven Hero Armour, and I'm fine with this. They're still going to be super rare, it just gives newer players a SLIM chance of getting these items too.

    If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed.

    If you don't play often, and usually miss the time limited offers, you'll have to gamble with Crown Crates and likely spend significantly more money to obtain these items.

    Maybe it's annoying people because it's trying to compromise and meet in the middle? Greedy players want their rare items to be locked away FOREVER. Needy players want time limited items back on the store for ease of access FOREVER. This is a solution that's supposed to be catering to both camps, but apparently is just annoying everyone instead.

    @Darkstorne I think it really does annoy everyone instead, haha. I'm like you, I have been around a long time and purchased all the limited time stuff I wanted. Unfortunately though once these crates are unveiled a portion of your thread won't really be true anymore :/

    "If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed."

    @MissBizz Oh? I assumed Crown Crates would only sell PAST items no longer in the crown store, and that new items (mounts, armour sets etc) would be on the crown store first in the same way they work today, and only get moved to crown crates when they expire.

    Do you mean time limited items are now no longer happening, and will only be available through crates from now on? Because that would be disgusting and completely unacceptable.

    Crown crates will have items in them that are exclusive to the crates. If it's anything like the PTS was, a LOT of items will be exclusive to the crates actually. I imagine they will still have limited time offers, but they won't be for the crate exclusive items.

    If it was only past items, I wouldn't have an issue with them either.

    Wow. What the hell, ZOS? Any good will they built up by listening to the community and giving us One Tamriel, will be completely shot with such a blatantly anti-consumer move like this. There's literally nothing they can say to defend this. Have they tried defending it, or are they just taking the heat and ignoring everyone?

    Man, they must really think the Vvardenfell update will win us all over again...
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    Is that a bad thing? I've got quite a few "time limited" items, like the Clouded Senche and Elven Hero Armour, and I'm fine with this. They're still going to be super rare, it just gives newer players a SLIM chance of getting these items too.

    If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed.

    If you don't play often, and usually miss the time limited offers, you'll have to gamble with Crown Crates and likely spend significantly more money to obtain these items.

    Maybe it's annoying people because it's trying to compromise and meet in the middle? Greedy players want their rare items to be locked away FOREVER. Needy players want time limited items back on the store for ease of access FOREVER. This is a solution that's supposed to be catering to both camps, but apparently is just annoying everyone instead.

    @Darkstorne I think it really does annoy everyone instead, haha. I'm like you, I have been around a long time and purchased all the limited time stuff I wanted. Unfortunately though once these crates are unveiled a portion of your thread won't really be true anymore :/

    "If you play regularly enough to always be around for time limited items, you'll always be able to buy the sets you want, for a fair price, guaranteed."

    @MissBizz Oh? I assumed Crown Crates would only sell PAST items no longer in the crown store, and that new items (mounts, armour sets etc) would be on the crown store first in the same way they work today, and only get moved to crown crates when they expire.

    Do you mean time limited items are now no longer happening, and will only be available through crates from now on? Because that would be disgusting and completely unacceptable.

    Crown crates will have items in them that are exclusive to the crates. If it's anything like the PTS was, a LOT of items will be exclusive to the crates actually. I imagine they will still have limited time offers, but they won't be for the crate exclusive items.

    If it was only past items, I wouldn't have an issue with them either.

    Wow. What the hell, ZOS? Any good will they built up by listening to the community and giving us One Tamriel, will be completely shot with such a blatantly anti-consumer move like this. There's literally nothing they can say to defend this. Have they tried defending it, or are they just taking the heat and ignoring everyone?

    Man, they must really think the Vvardenfell update will win us all over again...

    No, they haven't even tried to defend that part of the crates. I even tried a ridiculous amount to get them to clarify that how we determined exclusives is correct, and never received an answer.

    Sorry OP for kinda veering the thread off track.
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