Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Cherryblossom wrote: »

what you going to spend all this gold on?

Gold mats and potions mainly, though if they made these items acess easier then i wouldnt need to buy them

What do you gold all your gear for? There's about a 1-2% increase in stats between purple and gold. If you want to make money just go farm normal trials and sell the motif at the end. That's at least 10k and unless you're in a completely incompetent group then normal trials would be a cakewalk.

Also go wandering the map farming everything while you're waiting for those groups to fill up. Even if you have pisspoor rng and never any gold mats you'll still make enough for 3-5k per day just doing that.

Alternatively can just post here to garner empathy.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Stopnaggin wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Clearly ZOS wants this game to be a korean grind fest.

All end game PVE makes no gold.

Welcome to Elder Farming Online!

Only people who make real gold is the big boys who buy everything, then jack up prices.

Why do people need gold if their end game?

If you want to make a new character grind mats or such to gear it, then done.

You get get alchemy mats via pvp now as well.

What do people do with their gold? Do they stockpile it or something?

People grind stuff to buy other stuff that they cant be bothered grinding..

I use my gold to buy motifs for my master crafter. Those tend to get expensive. I also use gold to buy stuff I need from other players in trials. Like the VO rings that don't seem to drop for me.

Bop, leveled mats and now an apothecary vendor in IC, sure makes it hard to find that niche of item to sell. Tri-pots still sell, as well as cp160 mats but at much lower prices than before. Crafting has very few sets that are in demand, they may not be purposely tanking the economy but non the less they are getting there. I used to sell cp160 leat her for 15-20k per stack, it sell for maybe 8k now. But hey I can sell Psijjic ambrosia frags for 200k right.

They are slowly killing the game, I just hope they can reverse this trend before it gets out of hand.

Join a proper guild and all the trial gear is shared.

Farm motif's yourself

I'm in 5 guilds, farming motifs myself, I do but that doesn't account for duplicates, celestial on 3 per week, I only run 1 toon on trials. Drop rates for the drauger, everyday since launch not a single one. Yes I run trials with my guilds, but that doesn't mean everything is free. Before bop most were more likely to trade, but now they want to offset the costs of running.

Very narrow point of view actually. Just because something doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't affect others. The point I was making is how they are slowly tanking the economy. If this doesn't affect you great. But you aren't the only player with an opnion. But hey as long as it's all good for you right.

I'll make more money selling all the gear i pick up from farming npcs.

I just farm NPCs and sell everything they drop to merchants, other than purple quality items which I decon. It's good to farm in a zone where you can get a decent item set - Soulshine for example sells good in divines/impen.

So I do many of the things already listed and I do farm because I like to wander the map. But I would suggest three things:
1. move overland from point to point instead of porting into what ever you are doing. Look around as you go. It is slower, but I work most of my"farming" in as I go from one place to another.
2. don't ride your mount.
3. stay off the roads.
Doing these things even some of the time will net you a great deal of mats over time, and it all sells.

With the crafter's bag I harvest (pick, kill, plunder, open, steal etc) everything in my path. And I keep it untill it will sell for a profit. Fishing bait sold for upwards of 15 gps each when I started playing and I made a huge amount of gps selling insect parts on a single low to mid level character. All of those tanked and I went on to something else but still collected bait as I went. Now guts are up to 10 gps, they are needed for things other than fishing now I guess, and I sell stacks of 200 all the time. The point being it was all collected as a secondary item or as I go from place to place. I imagine those crawlers that are only worth 1-2 gps each now will be needed for something new down the line and I will be ready to cash in the 2.7K that are in my crafting bag.

When all else gets stale and boring then steal everything you see and resell it. That at least puts an element of risk into it and can be a good way to make money.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Wellall while you could just run dungeons and trials...

Vet trials give an item weekly but I think the best gold make strategy is just to kill and loot, or steal everything you can and sale it.

Personally I've never gained much from only doing dungeons and trials.

My personal opinion was that motif hunting was the absolute best money maker of all time.

This.

I generally run Contracts for the Brotherhood, Steal and Loot all I can from people around and my contract marks. Then I run the Delves in places like Hew's Bane, and sell the Motif pages.

Doing this for quite some time, my characters are millionaires.

Just loot, steal, and sell Purple (and higher) weapons and Motif's from Delves and whatnot, and the money will come.

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

The best ways to make gold:

1-Refining mats for gold tempers (you farm zones for days just to refine 1000 mats for like 3 yellow tempers, the mats themselves are so cheap now)
2-Getting ingredients for potions (Running around the map for days again, just to get enough ingredients for potions)
3-Farming world bosses for that very rare weapon ( Running around between 3 wold bosses and a dolmen all day)
4-Running around farming world bosses for motifs.

Playing dungeons, Trials, VMA (actually playing the game) almost makes no money.
Its too boring it to do the mentioned things and its not actually playing the game, currently I am just spending money and making very little.

There has to be a reliable way to make good gold from dungeons and trials.

I don't pvp much but I think its even worse in PvP because of potion usage.

I am genuinely curious; what is this (in my opinion) rather unhealthy obsession about making millions of gold?

• Why do players need so much of it?
• What do you spend it on?

I do not go out specifically to farm mats.
I only farm mats on my way to and from quests. I loot barells and crates in dungeons and complete only those writs that will be of some benefit to me, re: the returns they will bring, eg if an Alchemy writ requires 3 Nirn not 3 Water, then I abandon it. My Potions Crafter with 'Lab Use' makes potions for all the Alts and similarly my Food & Drinks crafter. That way I get a minimum of 4 servings out of each brew - thus economising on the mats I have.

Despite non-intensive farming, I have more than enough mats for the food, drink and potions that I will ever need for my Chars, so I do not need to spend Gold in buying any in.

I have one top-spec crafter refining all raw materials. That way I seem to get the best returns from refining. I do not deconstruct armour and weapons; I sell them bar the 'Intricate' trait ones, which are passed down to other Chars, in a set pecking order. I do not really need another fully specked-out crafter, so I am not concerned how long it takes them to max out in Crafting. Having said that, all but a couple of my Alts are now lv50, without even trying. They all have an excellent repertoire of food & drink potions ready, should I decide to invest any skills into their passives.

I have plenty of Gold tempers, runes and Kutas and cannot foresee ever having to buy any in.

I make very little from Guild Store sales because I have yet to find a Guild that has a consistantly-good, prime-sales location. I place high quality gear in the Guild Bank for any Guild-mate to take, if it is of any use to them. I keep only pieces - with the best traits - from those sets that I think will be useful to me in the future. It does not matter what colour the piece is because I can upgrade it later - or replace it with a higher spec piece if and when one comes along. The rest I sell to NPC vendors at very low rates.

Despite poor sales coming from gear sold, I am not short of Gold-in-the Bank for my own needs.
I have enough gold put by for the couple of Gold Jewellry pieces I would ideally like to have - but that have remained elusive within the Guild Stores. In the meantime, I make do the Gold Jewellery that I have found for sale.

That brings me back to my main question.

Why are some players so obsessed with Gold?

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