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Keep double Vmsa drops forever.

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Why? Because the rng is atrocious. Guildie ran 6 times a day every day since event. Still no sharpened dagger. He has barely any sanity left donno how he does it. But still. Might as well keep it seeing the drops are just plain bad still.
  • Vaoh
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    I found it easier to quit my Stam Sorc than to farm vMA for a Sharpened Bow, Axe, and Dagger.

    After around 200 runs, I have managed to land a Sharpened Axe though. This thing is just sitting around doing nothing atm since I only play Magicka Sorc now....
  • Voxicity
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    Quadruple drops would be slightly closer to acceptable rng
  • Tryxus
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    Just remove all traits except Sharpened and the ones that make sense (Powered Resto Staff for instance)
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  • SanTii.92
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    we need downtime right now to extend the event one more week. pls t.t
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    I found it easier to quit my Stam Sorc than to farm vMA for a Sharpened Bow, Axe, and Dagger.

    After around 200 runs, I have managed to land a Sharpened Axe though. This thing is just sitting around doing nothing atm since I only play Magicka Sorc now....

    @Vaoh Kinda the case with me, but the game in general. I just needed a sharpened lightning or inferno staff. I got 1 inferno staff during the event (defending), and never saw a lightning staff at all. I honestly would've accepted any lightning staff, but nope. ZOS RNG feels I don't need 1 yet. So rather than keep getting upset, and keep using an incomplete build — I quit. There were other factors behind me quitting as well, but RNG was a big piece of the reason why.
  • KramUzibra
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    Yes please this would be nice!
  • johu31
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    Agree. Nobody ever gets what they want anyway.
  • MushmouthThomas
    I finished VMSA for the first time on Wed. Stamblade. Got a sharpened dagger on my second run, Friday night. Last night I got defending Resto and some BS 2 hand Maul.

    I really want 2x to stay! At least extend it through Thanksgiving week! All I know is 2x, dont think I can do 1x!
  • Jaronking
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    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.
  • G0ku
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    Somehow useful weapons out of 50-60 runs:

    2 sharpened daggers
    1 precise dagger
    2 nirn daggers
    1 precise axe
    1 sharpened axe
    1 sharpened bow
    1 nirn bow
    3 precise bow
    1 inferno precise
    2 ice precise
    1 lightning precise
    1 lightning sharpened
    2 precise resto

    Gave up on finding a sharpened inferno now. Won´t run it with single loot. Worst runs were with double sword and board, I mean really?
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  • Jaronking
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    Hey @ZOS_RichLambert give us another week.
  • Didaco
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    Today I got double resto, one precise and the other infused. Given the enchantment, the precise one might prove to be somewhat useful, but still... Meh.
  • Meld777
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    I found it easier to quit my Stam Sorc than to farm vMA for a Sharpened Bow, Axe, and Dagger.

    After around 200 runs, I have managed to land a Sharpened Axe though. This thing is just sitting around doing nothing atm since I only play Magicka Sorc now....

    @Vaoh Pretty interesting to hear. Because I already have 6 full Sharp stam sets (Bow + Dagger + Axe), yet not a single Sharpened or Precise Inferno. And looking at how late Streak got his first usable Inferno, I'm done with vMA as well. I am already over 400 runs in since release and I am not planning to run it 2k times. I'd rather stop now and accept 3k less DPS than uninstalling ESO out of frustration.
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  • redspecter23
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    I'm up to 46 weapons now

    Powered - 10
    Charged - 4
    Precise - 6
    Infused - 6
    Defending - 2
    Sharpened - 3
    Decisive - 8
    Nirnhoned - 7

    and by weapon type

    Axe/Dagger - 7
    Mace/Sword - 5
    2 hander - 6
    Bow - 14 !!!
    Destruction staff - 8
    Resto Staff - 6

    Please do something to end the insanity. I really want my character to progress. I can complete the content, but I can't do anything about RNG screwing the loot tables up. My sharpened ratio is currently at about 1:16 and should be 1:8. Nearly 1/3rd of my rewards are a bow when there are 12 different weapons available. Please add a token system or maelstrom crafting system or multiple rewards or trait rebalancing or anything really. This RNG is getting out of hand.
    Edited by redspecter23 on November 20, 2016 8:38PM
  • Leingod
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    Did 4 runs got in this order:

    1 Sharpened Axe
    1 Sharpened Lightning
    1 Powered 1H Mace (which is VERY useful if i may add)
    1 Defending Axe
    1 Sharpened Sword
    1 Decisive Sword (same run as other sword)
    3 trash shields
    1 Infused Mace
    1 Infused Lightning

    Thank you ZOS. Haven't had the sentiment in a good while but lets hope you have in the works a 3rd skill master weapon? Gonna cross my fingers
  • DannyLV702
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    I honestly agree. Once it goes back to single weapons there no way I'm stepping back in to deal with single weapon disappointments

    Zos, make it happen!!!!
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Better yet, include a token system with normal runs giving credit or nerf it.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.

    @Jaronking Bruh, did you ever get that sharpened 2H maul you were looking for in general? Meaning even prior to the event? I remember you looking for 1 I think. I ended up getting another 1 on my 10th run of the event (I had 1 due to pre-DB loot). I'd give you it to you, if I could.

    Edit: ytQkbQM.jpg The bow was sharpened too.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on November 20, 2016 9:32PM
  • Juhasow
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    That sould be done long time ago.
  • potirondb16_ESO
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    Dual loot is actually a pretty fun idea, it does double interest. I do Wonder if tokens will ever come through in this game... my mind is currently set on probably not, or not the way we would have like it anyhow...

    Token should always be made available to give the player acces to object in order to recongnise his dedication and reward him on the behaf of it. It should not be made available in order to give him acces to object which are already accessible while being blocked by the RNG.

    An exemple of a good token system :

    - Do Dailies (Undaunted/Warrior/Mage/Thieves/Assasin) and gather community bonus which can later be exchange for Horse Riding Lesson, Research Times, or Gathering Pouches

    An exemple of a bad token system :
    - Complete 3 times the dungeon and open a chest which contains one of the item which drops Inside the dungeon. (I know, you know what this is)

    If the reward is Something which you should already have access to but which you cannot because it is lock behind RNG then it isn't a reward or a way to reward the player for his actions and involvement. So Twice reward is nice. Token for lack or RNG ... not sure ...

    I mean it could easily be fix, for instance instead of opening a chest the lady at the end ask you to pick a weapon from her armory and you can get the weapon you want (with an RNG traits)... That's easy, kind of works well and doesn't need to add more pression on the RNG, theresay no token is needed.



  • Jaronking
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.

    @Jaronking Bruh, did you ever get that sharpened 2H maul you were looking for in general? Meaning even prior to the event? I remember you looking for 1 I think. I ended up getting another 1 on my 10th run of the event (I had 1 due to pre-DB loot). I'd give you it to you, if I could.

    Edit: ytQkbQM.jpg The bow was sharpened too.
    Nope I have no sharpened 2h melee weapon but every person in my guild with most of them just conpleteing VMA the week or two before the event started and now all of them have sharpened Mauls or DW wield weapons I have nothing all I got doing this event and before has been a sharpened Bow and a sharpened ICE staff.

    Its ridiculous this real live makes me want to quit the game bruh.I just got Double restros from the run I just want 1 weapon I need it been 300 runs.

    @ZOS_RichLambert help us man.
    Edited by Jaronking on November 20, 2016 9:50PM
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.

    @Jaronking Bruh, did you ever get that sharpened 2H maul you were looking for in general? Meaning even prior to the event? I remember you looking for 1 I think. I ended up getting another 1 on my 10th run of the event (I had 1 due to pre-DB loot). I'd give you it to you, if I could.

    Edit: ytQkbQM.jpg The bow was sharpened too.
    Nope I have no sharpened 2h melee weapon but every person in my guild with most of them just conpleteing VMA the week or two before the event started and now all of them have sharpened Mauls or DW wield weapons I have nothing all I got doing this event and before has been a sharpened Bow and a sharpened ICE staff.

    Its ridiculous this real live makes me want to quit the game bruh.I just got Double restros from the run I just want 1 weapon I need it been 300 runs.

    @ZOS_RichLambert help us man.

    Damn, I apologize to hear that. It's partially because of the horrible RNG in ESO that I quit until the next update, and I've been loving my gaming experience(s) since. Pokémon Sun and Moon have me hooked like a fiend, and Skyrim SE and Disgaea 5 are lit. Megadimension Neptunia VII as well. I'm telling you, bruh. Just take a break from ESO, and see for yourself just how greener the grass is on the other side of non-bad RNG.
  • Malmai
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Why? Because the rng is atrocious. Guildie ran 6 times a day every day since event. Still no sharpened dagger. He has barely any sanity left donno how he does it. But still. Might as well keep it seeing the drops are just plain bad still.

    I did 57 runs this week and yes i was lucky and got all things that i wanted but its PAIN and you should be rewarded properly but Zenimax doesn't understand that they just spawn themselves weapons no grind needed...
  • Jaronking
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.

    @Jaronking Bruh, did you ever get that sharpened 2H maul you were looking for in general? Meaning even prior to the event? I remember you looking for 1 I think. I ended up getting another 1 on my 10th run of the event (I had 1 due to pre-DB loot). I'd give you it to you, if I could.

    Edit: ytQkbQM.jpg The bow was sharpened too.
    Nope I have no sharpened 2h melee weapon but every person in my guild with most of them just conpleteing VMA the week or two before the event started and now all of them have sharpened Mauls or DW wield weapons I have nothing all I got doing this event and before has been a sharpened Bow and a sharpened ICE staff.

    Its ridiculous this real live makes me want to quit the game bruh.I just got Double restros from the run I just want 1 weapon I need it been 300 runs.

    @ZOS_RichLambert help us man.

    Damn, I apologize to hear that. It's partially because of the horrible RNG in ESO that I quit until the next update, and I've been loving my gaming experience(s) since. Pokémon Sun and Moon have me hooked like a fiend, and Skyrim SE and Disgaea 5 are lit. Megadimension Neptunia VII as well. I'm telling you, bruh. Just take a break from ESO, and see for yourself just how greener the grass is on the other side of non-bad RNG.
    All those games sound fun but no longer have a DS give it to my younger brother and don't have a ps4 gave ESO a breaks for 2 days and only did VMa and played other games was pretty fun.Being away from ESO.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.

    @Jaronking Bruh, did you ever get that sharpened 2H maul you were looking for in general? Meaning even prior to the event? I remember you looking for 1 I think. I ended up getting another 1 on my 10th run of the event (I had 1 due to pre-DB loot). I'd give you it to you, if I could.

    Edit: ytQkbQM.jpg The bow was sharpened too.
    Nope I have no sharpened 2h melee weapon but every person in my guild with most of them just conpleteing VMA the week or two before the event started and now all of them have sharpened Mauls or DW wield weapons I have nothing all I got doing this event and before has been a sharpened Bow and a sharpened ICE staff.

    Its ridiculous this real live makes me want to quit the game bruh.I just got Double restros from the run I just want 1 weapon I need it been 300 runs.

    @ZOS_RichLambert help us man.

    Damn, I apologize to hear that. It's partially because of the horrible RNG in ESO that I quit until the next update, and I've been loving my gaming experience(s) since. Pokémon Sun and Moon have me hooked like a fiend, and Skyrim SE and Disgaea 5 are lit. Megadimension Neptunia VII as well. I'm telling you, bruh. Just take a break from ESO, and see for yourself just how greener the grass is on the other side of non-bad RNG.

    I hope you don't have any plans to breed the perfect pokemon? That's the most grindy, rng based activity I can possibly think of ;)
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  • Flak
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    I also did about 50 runs in these two weeks, at least I got my first sharpened Dagger and that is with nearly 300-runs in total. Also still missing a sharpened Inferno. With doubleloot the time I invest is already insane.
    If they turn it back I probably won't even try.

    Highlight in these two weeks for me was crashing in front of the chest before I could pick it up and getting a response from Support that I "should just do it again to get the loot" xD
    Like I wasn't running it all day.

    So please keep the double loot for vMA until you can fix the rng.

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  • dday3six
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    I think a token/credit system would work the best. Something like a system set up so that undesirable weapons could be traded in to eventual give the desired ones.
  • Erock25
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    There is no chance I'll ever run VMSA again after this event if double loot is gone for good.
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  • Destyran
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.

    @Jaronking Bruh, did you ever get that sharpened 2H maul you were looking for in general? Meaning even prior to the event? I remember you looking for 1 I think. I ended up getting another 1 on my 10th run of the event (I had 1 due to pre-DB loot). I'd give you it to you, if I could.

    Edit: ytQkbQM.jpg The bow was sharpened too.
    Nope I have no sharpened 2h melee weapon but every person in my guild with most of them just conpleteing VMA the week or two before the event started and now all of them have sharpened Mauls or DW wield weapons I have nothing all I got doing this event and before has been a sharpened Bow and a sharpened ICE staff.

    Its ridiculous this real live makes me want to quit the game bruh.I just got Double restros from the run I just want 1 weapon I need it been 300 runs.

    @ZOS_RichLambert help us man.

    Damn, I apologize to hear that. It's partially because of the horrible RNG in ESO that I quit until the next update, and I've been loving my gaming experience(s) since. Pokémon Sun and Moon have me hooked like a fiend, and Skyrim SE and Disgaea 5 are lit. Megadimension Neptunia VII as well. I'm telling you, bruh. Just take a break from ESO, and see for yourself just how greener the grass is on the other side of non-bad RNG.

    I hope you don't have any plans to breed the perfect pokemon? That's the most grindy, rng based activity I can possibly think of ;)

    But breeding perfect pokemon os still quicker tham getting a sharpened destro/dagger
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Man I have done 3-5+ runs a day for the last two weeks and I still don't have a sharpened 2h and DW weapon I haven't gotten any sharpened weapons this entire event.Its ridiculous, @ZOS_RichLambert how do you believe this I'd acceptable I have done over 250 runs almost 300 and I still don't have 1 weapon I need help us.This make people want to quit the game.After 100 runs allow us to pick the weapon we want.This way you have people doing the contents but their a chance they get what they want.I don't want to have to do 1000 rusn to finally get the weapon I need.

    @Jaronking Bruh, did you ever get that sharpened 2H maul you were looking for in general? Meaning even prior to the event? I remember you looking for 1 I think. I ended up getting another 1 on my 10th run of the event (I had 1 due to pre-DB loot). I'd give you it to you, if I could.

    Edit: ytQkbQM.jpg The bow was sharpened too.
    Nope I have no sharpened 2h melee weapon but every person in my guild with most of them just conpleteing VMA the week or two before the event started and now all of them have sharpened Mauls or DW wield weapons I have nothing all I got doing this event and before has been a sharpened Bow and a sharpened ICE staff.

    Its ridiculous this real live makes me want to quit the game bruh.I just got Double restros from the run I just want 1 weapon I need it been 300 runs.

    @ZOS_RichLambert help us man.

    Damn, I apologize to hear that. It's partially because of the horrible RNG in ESO that I quit until the next update, and I've been loving my gaming experience(s) since. Pokémon Sun and Moon have me hooked like a fiend, and Skyrim SE and Disgaea 5 are lit. Megadimension Neptunia VII as well. I'm telling you, bruh. Just take a break from ESO, and see for yourself just how greener the grass is on the other side of non-bad RNG.

    I hope you don't have any plans to breed the perfect pokemon? That's the most grindy, rng based activity I can possibly think of ;)

    Yup, I sure do. Lol. But, I'm not planning on doing that until I've beaten the game, collected all items out and about, and gotten the main PokéDex ~80% complete. I've bred tons of 5IV and 6IV pokémon before, and it's nothing compared to the grind for weapons and specific gear in ESO. I kid you not. ESO has some of the worst grind I've ever experienced, and I've played tons of grind-oriented games (WoW, LoL, Diablo 3, Pokémon, Destiny, etc.). But, none come close to the grind I've experienced in ESO. Especially Maelstrom loot grinding. Even during the Orsinium Event, the grind experienced was horrible as you are bound to get screwed over by the horrible loot distribution.
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