Good vid, but the first minute of the vid shows exactly what is wrong with pvp atm.

Destroult is trolol wayyy too overpowered. Proccsets are cancerous and ruins pvp.

And some people say sorcs need buffing hmmm just not seeing that myself , nerf maybe

Proc sets and heavy armor> destro ult

On my stamina Templar I can sit it destro ults and outheal it with just vigor while standing in the middle of it

BurritoESO wrote: »

Proc sets and heavy armor> destro ult

On my stamina Templar I can sit it destro ults and outheal it with just vigor while standing in the middle of it

1v1 thinking makes it seem ok.. but if there were 5 of you sitting in 5 destro ulti's - could you all outheal it then? Or would there be 5 burnt burrito's?


Edit.. nice play in the vids btw.. Reminds me to use mines more often!

Could 5 of you survive 5 soul assaults if each one is targeted at a different one? I suspect yes.

But for AOE's - No - but those are all either single target or instant.. you can usually see a timed meteor/db ulti-dump coming and make sure you are elsewhere when it lands - but with EOTS - it just chases after you - usually with streak/rapids and any other gap-closers - with a smattering of other CC thrown in to boot. And with enough of them running, you only need to have the edge of it touch you for a second and you're down. That's not just you though - that's any and everyone in the area.

You're "The Engine Guardian"

I'm a little behind on @ names, forums names, and game names. Just started seeing that character around recently on TF and thought to myself: "Hey, he/she is really good."

Nice video!

Biro123 wrote: »

Could 5 of you survive 5 soul assaults if each one is targeted at a different one? I suspect yes.

But for AOE's - No - but those are all either single target or instant.. you can usually see a timed meteor/db ulti-dump coming and make sure you are elsewhere when it lands - but with EOTS - it just chases after you - usually with streak/rapids and any other gap-closers - with a smattering of other CC thrown in to boot. And with enough of them running, you only need to have the edge of it touch you for a second and you're down. That's not just you though - that's any and everyone in the area.

If 5 people dropped 5 destro ults on a group of 5 players, if those 5 players were smart, they would spread out and would most likely not die unless they got root spammed or something similar.

LeifErickson wrote: »

If 5 people dropped 5 destro ults on a group of 5 players, if those 5 players were smart, they would spread out and would most likely not die unless they got root spammed or something similar.

They definitely would.. and for the old-fashioned comet/DB dump, that's job done.. those 5 turn and start counter-attacking..

But with EOTS, they have to keep spread out and out of gap-close range otherwise they will be caught/killed. There can be no counter attack while it is ticking and there are always those who get caught.

Maybe its the kind of groups that run, but I think I'm seeing a pattern where more complaints come from the EU servers than the US. I'm starting to suspect that the US servers don't see many organised groups of 12-24 all running rapids, with a few people specialised in gap-closing/snare/roots - with others all running EOTS and every other AOE ability they can find, with the usual core of healers too. There are always plenty of people getting caught in it (refreshing their ulti at a frightening rate) - meaning you never know if its ready to be dropped or not - meaning your only option is to just stay away.. and not fight..

I wouldn't be too surprised if they rotate it too.. having 5 ppl pop it offensively with another 5 keeping it in reserve for when pushed - so as a group they have twice the uptime but still enough killing power to almost instantly drop anyone coming in contact.

We've all heard of force-multipliers.. Well this is the thing that gets multiplied - massively.

Biro123 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

If 5 people dropped 5 destro ults on a group of 5 players, if those 5 players were smart, they would spread out and would most likely not die unless they got root spammed or something similar.

They definitely would.. and for the old-fashioned comet/DB dump, that's job done.. those 5 turn and start counter-attacking..

But with EOTS, they have to keep spread out and out of gap-close range otherwise they will be caught/killed. There can be no counter attack while it is ticking and there are always those who get caught.

Maybe its the kind of groups that run, but I think I'm seeing a pattern where more complaints come from the EU servers than the US. I'm starting to suspect that the US servers don't see many organised groups of 12-24 all running rapids, with a few people specialised in gap-closing/snare/roots - with others all running EOTS and every other AOE ability they can find, with the usual core of healers too. There are always plenty of people getting caught in it (refreshing their ulti at a frightening rate) - meaning you never know if its ready to be dropped or not - meaning your only option is to just stay away.. and not fight..

I wouldn't be too surprised if they rotate it too.. having 5 ppl pop it offensively with another 5 keeping it in reserve for when pushed - so as a group they have twice the uptime but still enough killing power to almost instantly drop anyone coming in contact.

We've all heard of force-multipliers.. Well this is the thing that gets multiplied - massively.

That sounds more like a problem with ball groups than with the destro ult.

#pirateSorcOP

Lovely clips man.

God_flakes wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Doesn't ice ult snare and root unbreakably for a certain amount of time?

The non EOTS morph does.

? Eots?

Eye of the storm. The one the follows you. The other morph gains the root but it's a ground based static aoe. Still fun though.

Ghostbane wrote: »

#pirateSorcOP

Lovely clips man.

Thanks! I actually am not running that set. I just didn't know what I wanted to wear that day so I went skeleton.

Awesome vid. Saw you out a few times and you always had shields up so I didn't gank. IMO there is nothing OP about EOTS when used on a Sorc without a gap closer. They can try to streak on you, but there are so many ways to escape from a sorc.

LeifErickson wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Awesome vid. Saw you out a few times and you always had shields up so I didn't gank. IMO there is nothing OP about EOTS when used on a Sorc without a gap closer. They can try to streak on you, but there are so many ways to escape from a sorc.

Thanks! It's funny because when I'm fighting someone really tanky or someone who I don't need to use shields to beat, I will often not reapply my shields. It seems like sometimes the moment I don't reapply them, I get instantly ganked. I guess I must have been extra careful when you were near me for whatever reason.

Yes, there are definitely players like me watching for you to do that. I won't touch a magsorc with their shields up, but I will wait through 2-3 rotations of their shields counting to 6 to see if they let them drop. I probably just didn't catch you at an opportune time. Definitely recall the name though!