Crafters of War / A Cyrodiil Crafter's job
TheDarkRuler
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Hello folks,
today I'd like to present a huge concept regarding the importance of CRAFTERS in The Elder Scrolls Online.
Right now they are pretty much underemployed because there only exist a couple of good craftable sets.
I'd like to bring forth a concept of crafters in Cyrodiil: Make crafters able to craft unique war machines that cannot be bought with gold or AP!
The general concept is there are blueprints/schematics that can be gained by multiple ways. When having fulfilled the schmematics dependancy you can craft it at the new crafting station in each alliances home base. There are multiple dependencies on some schematics!
1.) Aquiring the schematic
Those can be aquired by ...
2.) The crafting station
There is a huge pile of wood planks and ingots and other clutter on the crafting space. Its a combination of several crafting stations.
It can only craft War Machines. The regular machines (Trebuchet, Ballista, Ram can be crafted from the very beginning). It does NOT matter which level the mats are that you use. Rubedit Wood should have the same effect as Hickory or Iron the same as Void Steel. It would be far to complicated to do different scales in each siege weaponry. See below for the costs.
3.) The Schematics / the costs and the effects
Note: The siege weapons that are old I am not talking much about.
But every siege weapon I made up myself has the *NEW* and a small description to it!
Those weapons below do not need extra schematics and are available from the very beginning.
Requirements for learning a schematic: NONE!
TREBUCHET
Types: Fire, Stone, Ice
Costs:
CATAPULT
Type: Fire/Meat
Costs:
BALLISTA
Type: Fire/Lightning/Normal
Costs:
RAM
Costs:
Schematics can be bought at the AP-Trader for 50.000 AP each or at the Tel'Var trader for 5000 Tel'Var Stones
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at least 25/50
TREBUCHET
Type: Cold-Fire
Costs:
CATAPULT
Type: Scattershot
Costs:
BALLISTA
Type: Cursed *NEW*
Costs:
Fires a magically enchanced bolt that has a shorter range than regular ballistae and a more steep arc.
Upon hitting a target, either player or wall, the bolt with explode with a small area of effect dealing magic damage.
Units and structures hit are suffering from the Major Vulnerability debuff for 6 seconds increasing all damage taken by 20% while active.
RAM
Type: Swift *NEW*
Costs:
A smaller type of battle ram that moves and attacks 20% faster than a regular ram.
However it has less hit points and can only be operated by 4 persons maximum instead of 6 reducing the overall damage each strike
Can be found as uncommon drop at Dolmens and be received by Board missions.
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at 50/50 and the first passive each at least 5/10
TREBUCHET
Type: Cold-Stone
Costs:
CATAPULT
Type: Toxic Gas *NEW*
Costs:
Fires three small pots containing a gaseous poison. Upon breaking on a surface the surface is intoxicated.
This results in a medium sized area of effect that will intoxify any enemy within with a long term toxin DoT.
BALLISTA
Type: Rapid-Fire *NEW*
Costs:
This ballista takes has no elemental effects and has a shorter range compared to the Normal-type ballista.
However its fire rate is approximately 33% faster than any other ballista. Also the health consumption per shot is reduced on this type!
RAM
Type: Warded *NEW*
Costs:
This ram is magically warded by protective runes on its outside decreasing the damage taken.
Also protects players currently operating the ram with Minor Protection, decreasing damage taken by 8% while in the radius.
But this results in slower attack rate of the ram itself!
Can be found as rare drop at Dolmens and be received by Board missions and as uncommon drop from rank-up messages.
Those super rare siege weapons are the non plus ultra in siege weaponry in Tamriel.
It should be very expensive to craft to avoid everyone uses it in fear of it being destroyed.
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at 50/50 and the first passive each 10/10
TREBUCHET
Type: Xivkyn Bombard *NEW*
Costs:
Fires a volatile daedric explosive that has an instable matter inside. If the projectile hits a surface it will begin an arming period of 5 seconds. After the charge has been completed it will trigger a huge explosion of Magicka with a radius of Eye of Elements ultimate dealing Daedric damage to all structures/enemies within. The damage will be about three times the regular Fire Trebuchet but with not DoT attached! To compensate for this insane damage the fire rate of this trebuchet is cut by 33%.
CATAPULT
Type: Soul-trap *NEW*
Costs:
Fires a small scale shrapnell shot of Atronach Elemental salts and soul stones pouring down on enemies.
Each area of effects damage with be completely random between fire, frost, lightning and pure magic damage.
BALLISTA
Type: Spriggan's Wrath *NEW*
Costs:
Upon hitting a target spawns spriggan roots entangling all enemies in proximity. While entangled all rooted enemies will suffer a strong Damage over Time.
The DoT applies to structures and other Siege weaponry as well.
RAM
Type: Dwemer's Quake *NEW*
Costs:
This rams head is a masterpiece of dwemer technology with strong impact on each strike.
Each hit will trigger a small explosion directed towards the enemy gate dealing massive amount of additional fire damage.
Due to the sheer explosivion effect the integrity of this siege weapon decreases faster with each strike done than a regular ram!
In terms of defense this ram is like the regular one.
Edited by TheDarkRuler on November 17, 2016 8:46AM today I'd like to present a huge concept regarding the importance of CRAFTERS in The Elder Scrolls Online.
Right now they are pretty much underemployed because there only exist a couple of good craftable sets.
I'd like to bring forth a concept of crafters in Cyrodiil: Make crafters able to craft unique war machines that cannot be bought with gold or AP!
The general concept is there are blueprints/schematics that can be gained by multiple ways. When having fulfilled the schmematics dependancy you can craft it at the new crafting station in each alliances home base. There are multiple dependencies on some schematics!
1.) Aquiring the schematic
Those can be aquired by ...
- fulfilling Cyrodiil board missions (e.g. "Kill 20 Dragon Knights", "Capture Fort XXX", etc.)
- in Cyrodiil reward messages for ranking up
- as a rare drop from Cyrodiil dolmen
- the weaker ones can be bought from AP- and Tel-Var stone traders
2.) The crafting station
There is a huge pile of wood planks and ingots and other clutter on the crafting space. Its a combination of several crafting stations.
It can only craft War Machines. The regular machines (Trebuchet, Ballista, Ram can be crafted from the very beginning). It does NOT matter which level the mats are that you use. Rubedit Wood should have the same effect as Hickory or Iron the same as Void Steel. It would be far to complicated to do different scales in each siege weaponry. See below for the costs.
3.) The Schematics / the costs and the effects
Note: The siege weapons that are old I am not talking much about.
But every siege weapon I made up myself has the *NEW* and a small description to it!
Those weapons below do not need extra schematics and are available from the very beginning.
Requirements for learning a schematic: NONE!
TREBUCHET
Types: Fire, Stone, Ice
Costs:
- 200 wood, 100 ingots
- 5x Rakeipa (Fire-type)
- 5x Okori (Stone-type)
- 5x Dakeipa (Ice-type)
CATAPULT
Type: Fire/Meat
Costs:
- 150 Wood, 70 Ingots
- 5x Rakeipa (Fire-type)
- 5x Haoko (Meat-type)
BALLISTA
Type: Fire/Lightning/Normal
Costs:
- 100 Wood, 50 Ingots
- 5x Rakeipa (Fire-type)
- 5x Meip (Lightning-type)
- 5x Okori (Normal-type)
RAM
Costs:
- 120 Wood, 70 Leather
- 5x Taderi
Schematics can be bought at the AP-Trader for 50.000 AP each or at the Tel'Var trader for 5000 Tel'Var Stones
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at least 25/50
TREBUCHET
Type: Cold-Fire
Costs:
- 200 wood, 100 ingots
- 10x Rakeipa
- 3x Rekruta
- 3x Grain Solvent
CATAPULT
Type: Scattershot
Costs:
- 150 Wood, 70 Ingots
- 10x Okori
- 3x Grain Solvent
- 3x Mastic
BALLISTA
Type: Cursed *NEW*
Costs:
- 100 Wood, 50 Ingots
- 10x Makderi
- 5x Rekruta
- 5x Mastic
Fires a magically enchanced bolt that has a shorter range than regular ballistae and a more steep arc.
Upon hitting a target, either player or wall, the bolt with explode with a small area of effect dealing magic damage.
Units and structures hit are suffering from the Major Vulnerability debuff for 6 seconds increasing all damage taken by 20% while active.
RAM
Type: Swift *NEW*
Costs:
- 120 Wood, 70 Leather
- 5x Taderi
- 5x Oru
- 5x Mastic
A smaller type of battle ram that moves and attacks 20% faster than a regular ram.
However it has less hit points and can only be operated by 4 persons maximum instead of 6 reducing the overall damage each strike
Can be found as uncommon drop at Dolmens and be received by Board missions.
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at 50/50 and the first passive each at least 5/10
TREBUCHET
Type: Cold-Stone
Costs:
- 200 wood, 100 ingots
- 20x Okori
- 10x Rekruta
- 5x Grain Solvent
CATAPULT
Type: Toxic Gas *NEW*
Costs:
- 150 Wood, 70 Ingots
- 10x Nightshade
- 10x Emetic Russula
- 10x Namiras Rot
- 100x of any Toxin Solvent
Fires three small pots containing a gaseous poison. Upon breaking on a surface the surface is intoxicated.
This results in a medium sized area of effect that will intoxify any enemy within with a long term toxin DoT.
BALLISTA
Type: Rapid-Fire *NEW*
Costs:
- 100 Wood, 50 Ingots
- 20x Okori
- 10x Mastic
- 10x Grain Solvent
- 20x Denata
This ballista takes has no elemental effects and has a shorter range compared to the Normal-type ballista.
However its fire rate is approximately 33% faster than any other ballista. Also the health consumption per shot is reduced on this type!
RAM
Type: Warded *NEW*
Costs:
- 120 Wood, 70 Leather
- 10x Deni
- 10x Oko
- 2x Rosin
This ram is magically warded by protective runes on its outside decreasing the damage taken.
Also protects players currently operating the ram with Minor Protection, decreasing damage taken by 8% while in the radius.
But this results in slower attack rate of the ram itself!
Can be found as rare drop at Dolmens and be received by Board missions and as uncommon drop from rank-up messages.
Those super rare siege weapons are the non plus ultra in siege weaponry in Tamriel.
It should be very expensive to craft to avoid everyone uses it in fear of it being destroyed.
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at 50/50 and the first passive each 10/10
TREBUCHET
Type: Xivkyn Bombard *NEW*
Costs:
- 500 wood, 250 ingots
- 10x Rosin
- 5x Tempering Alloy
- 10x Charcoal of Remorse
- 10x Soul Stones (filled)
Fires a volatile daedric explosive that has an instable matter inside. If the projectile hits a surface it will begin an arming period of 5 seconds. After the charge has been completed it will trigger a huge explosion of Magicka with a radius of Eye of Elements ultimate dealing Daedric damage to all structures/enemies within. The damage will be about three times the regular Fire Trebuchet but with not DoT attached! To compensate for this insane damage the fire rate of this trebuchet is cut by 33%.
CATAPULT
Type: Soul-trap *NEW*
Costs:
- 350 Wood, 140 Ingots
- 8x Rosin
- 4x Tempering Alloy
- 50x Elemental Salts
- 10x Soul Stone (unfilled)
Fires a small scale shrapnell shot of Atronach Elemental salts and soul stones pouring down on enemies.
Each area of effects damage with be completely random between fire, frost, lightning and pure magic damage.
BALLISTA
Type: Spriggan's Wrath *NEW*
Costs:
- 400 Wood, 150 Ingots
- 7x Rosin
- 3x Tempering Alloy
- 5x Malachite
- 20x Supple Root
Upon hitting a target spawns spriggan roots entangling all enemies in proximity. While entangled all rooted enemies will suffer a strong Damage over Time.
The DoT applies to structures and other Siege weaponry as well.
RAM
Type: Dwemer's Quake *NEW*
Costs:
- 300 Wood, 150 Leather
- 8x Rosin
- 3x Dreugh Wax
- 20x Dwemer Gears
- 15x Soul Stones (filled)
- 1x Dwemer Dynamo Core (trophy)
This rams head is a masterpiece of dwemer technology with strong impact on each strike.
Each hit will trigger a small explosion directed towards the enemy gate dealing massive amount of additional fire damage.
Due to the sheer explosivion effect the integrity of this siege weapon decreases faster with each strike done than a regular ram!
In terms of defense this ram is like the regular one.
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Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Very interesting, I like it!
Only thing I would change is materials required for crafting, seems a bit over the top to me.
Also, I would add one thing, and that is that quality of used raw materials would have an impact on war machine's longevity, aka health. Machines crafted using rubedite tier materials should have higher durability.0 -
White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Great idea but I would say only if you where 9 out of 9 on all research so that master crafters could have something they could make some money out of4 -
AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭will overcomplicate things. plus you forgot oil catapult. oils. and you forgetting coldfire trebuchet already does ~20k damage to regular targets (even more to vampires) dont need something that would one shot everything it hits including emperors.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
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LMar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Worth also considering that a lot of crafters don't actually PvP a lot, so the method for procuring schematics has to be thought out carefully"If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The general concept sounds interesting, but the proposed example looks wildly overpriced, not to mention overpowered."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."3 -
P3ZZL3✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not a hard core PVP'r but have played a bit in here and other mmo's.
Love the idea of utilising the Crafting capability.
The prices seem low in all honesty. The objective would be, in my opinion, to get the guild to effectively be buying this equipment, so pooled resources. They should be something that is not common place, but something that is worked for.
It might even be relevant to assign certain item(s) that are required for the build (i.e. 1 xyz stone) that is a rare pickup from either farming across the world, or just in certain zones - increasing presence/population in certain zones. Clearly something the core pvp'r would not appreciate, but for a crafter and PVE explorer, getting back to old zones you;'ve not been in for a while would be a blast for them. This would then facilitate the trade between the pve/pvp'r groups.
*shrugs*
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Just about everything you posted is the core concept of the Crafter Class that will be in Camelot Unchained for each side. Just wait for Camelot Unchained like the rest of us.
It is being made for the PVPer, Crafter, and Seiege Warfare fan0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Siege are intended as an AP sink with only a few small number coming from other sources. To have crafted seige they would have to be sub par to the vendor one and hence not worth it.0 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This was suggested a long time ago and got shot down . I like the idea myself .0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I agree on the great ideas as well ...
What about forward camps?
Those could be made out of leather and different essence runes. Since they are crafted, the radius could be larger and respawn time shorter ... depending on the material level used and crafting level of the player.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on November 17, 2016 7:32PM0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »I agree on the great ideas as well ...
What about forward camps?
Those could be made out of leather and different essence runes. Since they are crafted, the radius could be larger and respawn time shorter ... depending on the material level used and crafting level of the player.
It would require a new craft line and new matts. None of the skill lines fit. Not a good idea for the matts to compete with each other and many players still craft gear.0 -
RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Interesting concept but the mat cost you suggested is WAY too high especially for pure PvP oriented equipment that can be destroyed/stolen...PS4 NA
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✭✭✭✭✭Crafting siege weapons would be interesting, but the materials needed aren't appropriate. Siege machines aren't enchanted, you wouldn't need runestones to make them. Even in a world of magic, Trebuchets remain grounded in real world physics.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »Hello folks,
today I'd like to present a huge concept regarding the importance of CRAFTERS in The Elder Scrolls Online.
Right now they are pretty much underemployed because there only exist a couple of good craftable sets.
I'd like to bring forth a concept of crafters in Cyrodiil: Make crafters able to craft unique war machines that cannot be bought with gold or AP!
The general concept is there are blueprints/schematics that can be gained by multiple ways. When having fulfilled the schmematics dependancy you can craft it at the new crafting station in each alliances home base. There are multiple dependencies on some schematics!
1.) Aquiring the schematic
Those can be aquired by ...- fulfilling Cyrodiil board missions (e.g. "Kill 20 Dragon Knights", "Capture Fort XXX", etc.)
- in Cyrodiil reward messages for ranking up
- as a rare drop from Cyrodiil dolmen
- the weaker ones can be bought from AP- and Tel-Var stone traders
2.) The crafting station
There is a huge pile of wood planks and ingots and other clutter on the crafting space. Its a combination of several crafting stations.
It can only craft War Machines. The regular machines (Trebuchet, Ballista, Ram can be crafted from the very beginning). It does NOT matter which level the mats are that you use. Rubedit Wood should have the same effect as Hickory or Iron the same as Void Steel. It would be far to complicated to do different scales in each siege weaponry. See below for the costs.
3.) The Schematics / the costs and the effects
Note: The siege weapons that are old I am not talking much about.
But every siege weapon I made up myself has the *NEW* and a small description to it!
Those weapons below do not need extra schematics and are available from the very beginning.
Requirements for learning a schematic: NONE!
TREBUCHET
Types: Fire, Stone, Ice
Costs:- 200 wood, 100 ingots
- 5x Rakeipa (Fire-type)
- 5x Okori (Stone-type)
- 5x Dakeipa (Ice-type)
CATAPULT
Type: Fire/Meat
Costs:- 150 Wood, 70 Ingots
- 5x Rakeipa (Fire-type)
- 5x Haoko (Meat-type)
BALLISTA
Type: Fire/Lightning/Normal
Costs:- 100 Wood, 50 Ingots
- 5x Rakeipa (Fire-type)
- 5x Meip (Lightning-type)
- 5x Okori (Normal-type)
RAM
Costs:- 120 Wood, 70 Leather
- 5x Taderi
Schematics can be bought at the AP-Trader for 50.000 AP each or at the Tel'Var trader for 5000 Tel'Var Stones
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at least 25/50
TREBUCHET
Type: Cold-Fire
Costs:- 200 wood, 100 ingots
- 10x Rakeipa
- 3x Rekruta
- 3x Grain Solvent
CATAPULT
Type: Scattershot
Costs:- 150 Wood, 70 Ingots
- 10x Okori
- 3x Grain Solvent
- 3x Mastic
BALLISTA
Type: Cursed *NEW*
Costs:- 100 Wood, 50 Ingots
- 10x Makderi
- 5x Rekruta
- 5x Mastic
Fires a magically enchanced bolt that has a shorter range than regular ballistae and a more steep arc.
Upon hitting a target, either player or wall, the bolt with explode with a small area of effect dealing magic damage.
Units and structures hit are suffering from the Major Vulnerability debuff for 6 seconds increasing all damage taken by 20% while active.
RAM
Type: Swift *NEW*
Costs:- 120 Wood, 70 Leather
- 5x Taderi
- 5x Oru
- 5x Mastic
A smaller type of battle ram that moves and attacks 20% faster than a regular ram.
However it has less hit points and can only be operated by 4 persons maximum instead of 6 reducing the overall damage each strike
Can be found as uncommon drop at Dolmens and be received by Board missions.
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at 50/50 and the first passive each at least 5/10
TREBUCHET
Type: Cold-Stone
Costs:- 200 wood, 100 ingots
- 20x Okori
- 10x Rekruta
- 5x Grain Solvent
CATAPULT
Type: Toxic Gas *NEW*
Costs:- 150 Wood, 70 Ingots
- 10x Nightshade
- 10x Emetic Russula
- 10x Namiras Rot
- 100x of any Toxin Solvent
Fires three small pots containing a gaseous poison. Upon breaking on a surface the surface is intoxicated.
This results in a medium sized area of effect that will intoxify any enemy within with a long term toxin DoT.
BALLISTA
Type: Rapid-Fire *NEW*
Costs:- 100 Wood, 50 Ingots
- 20x Okori
- 10x Mastic
- 10x Grain Solvent
- 20x Denata
This ballista takes has no elemental effects and has a shorter range compared to the Normal-type ballista.
However its fire rate is approximately 33% faster than any other ballista. Also the health consumption per shot is reduced on this type!
RAM
Type: Warded *NEW*
Costs:- 120 Wood, 70 Leather
- 10x Deni
- 10x Oko
- 2x Rosin
This ram is magically warded by protective runes on its outside decreasing the damage taken.
Also protects players currently operating the ram with Minor Protection, decreasing damage taken by 8% while in the radius.
But this results in slower attack rate of the ram itself!
Can be found as rare drop at Dolmens and be received by Board missions and as uncommon drop from rank-up messages.
Those super rare siege weapons are the non plus ultra in siege weaponry in Tamriel.
It should be very expensive to craft to avoid everyone uses it in fear of it being destroyed.
Requirements for learning a schematic:
Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing at 50/50 and the first passive each 10/10
TREBUCHET
Type: Xivkyn Bombard *NEW*
Costs:- 500 wood, 250 ingots
- 10x Rosin
- 5x Tempering Alloy
- 10x Charcoal of Remorse
- 10x Soul Stones (filled)
Fires a volatile daedric explosive that has an instable matter inside. If the projectile hits a surface it will begin an arming period of 5 seconds. After the charge has been completed it will trigger a huge explosion of Magicka with a radius of Eye of Elements ultimate dealing Daedric damage to all structures/enemies within. The damage will be about three times the regular Fire Trebuchet but with not DoT attached! To compensate for this insane damage the fire rate of this trebuchet is cut by 33%.
CATAPULT
Type: Soul-trap *NEW*
Costs:- 350 Wood, 140 Ingots
- 8x Rosin
- 4x Tempering Alloy
- 50x Elemental Salts
- 10x Soul Stone (unfilled)
Fires a small scale shrapnell shot of Atronach Elemental salts and soul stones pouring down on enemies.
Each area of effects damage with be completely random between fire, frost, lightning and pure magic damage.
BALLISTA
Type: Spriggan's Wrath *NEW*
Costs:- 400 Wood, 150 Ingots
- 7x Rosin
- 3x Tempering Alloy
- 5x Malachite
- 20x Supple Root
Upon hitting a target spawns spriggan roots entangling all enemies in proximity. While entangled all rooted enemies will suffer a strong Damage over Time.
The DoT applies to structures and other Siege weaponry as well.
RAM
Type: Dwemer's Quake *NEW*
Costs:- 300 Wood, 150 Leather
- 8x Rosin
- 3x Dreugh Wax
- 20x Dwemer Gears
- 15x Soul Stones (filled)
- 1x Dwemer Dynamo Core (trophy)
This rams head is a masterpiece of dwemer technology with strong impact on each strike.
Each hit will trigger a small explosion directed towards the enemy gate dealing massive amount of additional fire damage.
Due to the sheer explosivion effect the integrity of this siege weapon decreases faster with each strike done than a regular ram!
In terms of defense this ram is like the regular one.
throw in alot of TA and jejota rune costs and you have me sold
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