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Color blind people need some love zos

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As someone who is color blind, I really struggle with some aspects of this game. Here is a list of things that should be altered to help out the color blind population.

AOE indicators are nearly impossible for me to see as I am red-green colorblind. Their needs to be a function where you can adjust the occupancy((brighter or darker)) and the red-blue-green color of this indicator. This would give all the different color blind people a chance to make the AOE indicator a color that they can actually see. In maelstrom arena and fighting molog baal in the center of sewers is so painful for me because I never know when I am standing in an AOE.

Shuffle makes people EXTREMELY hard to see for people with color disorders. I can't tell what they are doing! Some times I think I'm fighting a night blade because I lose track of them when they are in fact a stamina DK. Why does a dodge chance buff make you see threw? This makes no sense to me and makes the game unnecessarily difficult for people with color disability's Please change the animation of this skill. (or take it out? :expressionless: )

Please color blind folks, unite behind this and help me bring this to the attention of our overlords.
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  • God_flakes
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    Wow this is something I've never even considered. Considering a lot of men are color blind and a lot of the gaming community is men...why aren't more raising awareness to this issue? Can you see the white around people you tab target? Or just can't see red/green?
  • bikerangelo
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    Zos' new aoe circles;

    colortest4.gif
  • TheDarkRuler
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Can you see the white around people you tab target? Or just can't see red/green?

    Normally red-green-blindless "just" results in the inability to distinguish those two colours from another. Or am I wrong?

    Edited by TheDarkRuler on November 16, 2016 4:35AM
  • God_flakes
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Can you see the white around people you tab target? Or just can't see red/green?

    Normally red-green-blindless "just" results in the inability to distinguish those two colours from another. Or am I wrong?

    I don't know a lot about color blindness, not sure if white is a problem. I really can't believe this issue hasn't been raised before.
  • RadioheadSh0t
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Can you see the white around people you tab target? Or just can't see red/green?

    Normally red-green-blindless "just" results in the inability to distinguish those two colours from another. Or am I wrong?

    You are wrong.
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  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    There were a few threads about this like a year ago (unless I'm remembering wrong), but it didn't get much attention which is so sad. I can't imagine how irritating this would be (thinking of fights like in vma where there is the green heal circle in round 3 and the red aoe...ouch). I'm sorry to hear about the lack of options to adjust for this, hopefully they can come up with an easy fix or something to patch in.
  • Xinthisis
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    Dang, this is something that definitely needs to be addressed.
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    There were a few threads about this like a year ago (unless I'm remembering wrong), but it didn't get much attention which is so sad. I can't imagine how irritating this would be (thinking of fights like in vma where there is the green heal circle in round 3 and the red aoe...ouch). I'm sorry to hear about the lack of options to adjust for this, hopefully they can come up with an easy fix or something to patch in.

    Yes we tried to get somethings from ZOS but never heard back .
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    I believe this means that in stage 7 of vMA, you can't tell if you are standing in a flower aoe. Think about that for a second.
  • mildlylucid
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    Shuffle makes people EXTREMELY hard to see for people with color disorders.
    Fixed.
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  • Minnesinger
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    As someone who is color blind, I really struggle with some aspects of this game. Here is a list of things that should be altered to help out the color blind population.

    AOE indicators are nearly impossible for me to see as I am red-green colorblind. Their needs to be a function where you can adjust the occupancy((brighter or darker)) and the red-blue-green color of this indicator. This would give all the different color blind people a chance to make the AOE indicator a color that they can actually see. In maelstrom arena and fighting molog baal in the center of sewers is so painful for me because I never know when I am standing in an AOE.

    Shuffle makes people EXTREMELY hard to see for people with color disorders. I can't tell what they are doing! Some times I think I'm fighting a night blade because I lose track of them when they are in fact a stamina DK. Why does a dodge chance buff make you see threw? This makes no sense to me and makes the game unnecessarily difficult for people with color disability's Please change the animation of this skill. (or take it out? :expressionless: )

    Please color blind folks, unite behind this and help me bring this to the attention of our overlords.

    i thought they added it already :/ but yes I agree,

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  • fastolfv_ESO
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    i actually have multiple color blind people in my guild and telling them stay out of red on grass or any other color just doesnt work. How any mmo can be missing some sort of color blind support is beyond me
  • AbraXuSeXile
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    This should be introduced, i have red green problems also and as pvp raid leader its a massive ball ache.
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  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    My son has some color blindness. He plays a lot of BF1 now as that game is very friendly with color blindness settings.

    They should have a way to make red and green circles in this game different colors or hues.
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  • pattyLtd
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    Destiny also has settings to help out people with color disorders
    * maybe that helps to trigger their competive nature bc if they can add it why can't you?

    Not being able to distinguish the red aoe circle and still being able to play the game makes for one legendary player imo.
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    pattyLtd wrote: »
    * maybe that helps to trigger their competive nature bc if they can add it why can't you?
    Blizzard doing a lot of work on WoW balance, and do fixes almost in every update, also they does not reintroduce bugs every three month, etc.
    Does it triggers ZoS? Don't think so)
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    My industry has an intro on lighting with vision. Basically color blindness is different between persons with 8% of the male population being color blind.

    http://www.ies.org/lighting/science/


    To combat this, it's better to use words+ sounds in conjunction with animations/colors to determine conditions existing in the game. For example, a rolling text to describe "you are in enemy caltrops" or show enemy aoe ground effects with a different "edge" around the effect circle (like have the option to add a dotted line for enemy ground effects.

    But ultimately most game studios will or will not support color blindness solutions. Sadly those integrations are never part of core games and some studios are under heavy deadlines so those discussions are never talked about. But they should let the UI help people code solutions and give those addons priority on being whitelisted (after being reviewed).
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  • God_flakes
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    Maybe someone can develop an add on for eso that helps users manually change the red and green circles to the color that is easier for them to see?
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    Do they have any addons that might help color-blind people?

    I know one of the addons tells me to do things like 'dodge' when I am in trouble. I wonder if the same addon shows some kind of message if I am standing in red.




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  • Minno
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    Do they have any addons that might help color-blind people?

    I know one of the addons tells me to do things like 'dodge' when I am in trouble. I wonder if the same addon shows some kind of message if I am standing in red.



    Last add one were developed back in 2014.
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=280#info

    Most of those creators left after the "light patch" caused huge amounts of lag that took ZoS a couple of months to patch.
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  • Alucardo
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    A toggleable option to turn on different colours for the AOE tells, or even give them patterns for those severely colour blind would be pretty cool. No harm in that.
  • Chuga_Rei
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    [Snip] Got to help the homies who are having issues with this.

    Imo make it a toggleable setting. It doesn't even have to be pretty. I'm sure plenty of people who like me have basic vision problems and don't always like playing with glasses/contacts may even give it a try.

    I think many would welcome the function over the form of it made negative and helpful effects easier to see

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    I remember reading a book about the making of Star Trek and it talked about some kind of glasses that could be worn to make it look like everything was black and white ('cause not everyone had color TV) and it frustrated some of the people who would make what they think was a lovely palate and then in B&W it was just blurred together.

    Something about color intensity.

    You would think that with 'puters, this could be done easily for the devs and allow color adjustments.
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  • alext89
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    I struggle a lot whit red aoe circle on a green ground, such as grass etc. same goes for shuffle in green enviroment. i can completely lose track or the player, if there are other obsticals aswell, like trees and bushes. i deefendly feel u mate!
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    I'm not colorblind but I'd like to see color swapping on the AoEs anyway. Why? Because some fights take place in areas where the ground is red (lava, anyone?) thus making them difficult to see even without any sort of vision issues.
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  • Crystelle
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    As a person with severe protanomaly, playing this game is a constant struggle because I cannot see half the AoE markers in the game. VMA is 1000x harder when you can't see what you're supposed to dodge, especially on the poison round because I literally can't see the poison.
    I believe this means that in stage 7 of vMA, you can't tell if you are standing in a flower aoe. Think about that for a second.
    This is so rage inducing it's ridiculous.
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  • baratron
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    Pinging @ZOS_AlexTardif to this thread!

    And for the rest of you, his comment from earlier this year.
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    baratron wrote: »
    Pinging @ZOS_AlexTardif to this thread!

    And for the rest of you, his comment from earlier this year.

    Not shocking that 6 months later they still have yet to accommodate this quite common disability among male gamers. :neutral:
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    Zos does not give a single flying *** about their game in general except for getting cash out of the crown store - what would make you think this topic will achieve anything more than maybe make someone at their headquarter break out in hysterical laugher because of this absurd request.
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