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Nutshotz
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I just came back 5 days ago. I see all these new sets and I'm a Lil boggled on what to run for my magblade and mag sorc. I run a bomb build for giggles on my magblade.

So what I'm asking is what do people run now days on magic sorcs and magic nightblades for pvp.
  • Nutshotz
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    I see a few magblade that are running not sure what sets but there HP is 35-39k, and there magica is 60-68k. Can someone please tell what sets those magblades are using.
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    It's 'emperor status'
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  • Nutshotz
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    Ah I forgot about emp status lol
  • W0lf_z13
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    unless u are running in imperial city.... the set they might be wearing could be Imperial Physique which increases their stats based on the amount of TelVars they are carrying.... if not in Imperial City then its prob the emp buff
    Edited by W0lf_z13 on November 15, 2016 4:08PM
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  • Nutshotz
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    If it's not those and just basic stats what sets would magicka nightblade be using
  • Magus
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    Most magblades and magsorcs simply slot infernal guardian and spam damage shields/annulment/healing ward and get half of their DPS from infernal guardian and then complain about stamina proc sets lol. Lich is pretty in right now for infinite sustain. That leaves you with 4 or 5 pieces leftover for flavor depending on if you going dual wield or double staff. Spinners would be likely choice for your final 5 piece.
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  • Nutshotz
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    What is spinners?
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  • Alucardo
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    I see a few magblade that are running not sure what sets but there HP is 35-39k, and there magica is 60-68k. Can someone please tell what sets those magblades are using.

    Clever alchemist is really nice. Not only do you get a huge buff to spell/weapon damage, but the 2 max health bonuses are good to have in the current state of high damage PVP. Them magblades are probably running 5 heavy alchemist. You get max health from HA, and 2 max health from clever, so it adds up to over 30k I believe. If you went the heavy armor route, I'd probably try something like 5 heavy alchemist and 5 spinners to make up for the lack of spell pen.
    Honestly, I'd recommend that set to any medium or light armor user. Finally started using it myself and it's made a world of difference. I imagine it'd work well with your bomb build too.
    I'd use something like 5 alchemist, 5 vicious death, 1 kena, 1 ilambris (max magicka). You could also try 2 Grothdarr. If that procs after your initial blast, you could run around with that and sap essence to clean up the mess.
    Edited by Alucardo on November 15, 2016 5:06PM
  • Nutshotz
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    @Alucardo I run the 5 clever, 5 vicious, 2 torugs 1 Kena for my bomb build. Works wonders. Works great for a solo bomber/grp bomber style. I'm more looking for something with sustain/dps. I see spinners and lamia, or spider cultists. Those look like good builds.
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    @Alucardo I run the 5 clever, 5 vicious, 2 torugs 1 Kena for my bomb build. Works wonders. Works great for a solo bomber/grp bomber style. I'm more looking for something with sustain/dps. I see spinners and lamia, or spider cultists. Those look like good builds.

    Hmm, Spider cultist might be good for a sorc considering you rely on the destruction staff for your DPS, but not too sure about it on a magblade. If you use an inferno staff, Burning Spellweave is amazing. It has a high uptime, and if you throw down WoE it procs a lot. Pair it with spinners for some spell pen, as a lot of people are in heavy these days, and you'll be dealing a lot of damage. Once Spellweave procs, drop a destro ultimate and most things will melt in seconds.
    Obviously not much sustain from the sets there, but siphoning attacks will keep your resources up.
  • TwistedThoughtz
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    5 spinner 5 lich 2 monster
    Lich resto back bar
    Sharpened spinner destro main bar

    A mix between damage and resources, then the monster set can lean more to either side.
  • Nutshotz
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    Did they up thee drop rate on the lich set?
  • TwistedThoughtz
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    Did they up thee drop rate on the lich set?

    They changed a lot with loot drops and locations, lich is way easier to get now.

    Check this link out
    http://alcasthq.com/gearlocation/
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  • Nutshotz
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    Oh that looks like a insane set
  • Nutshotz
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    Prolly what that sorc was wearing that blew my sorc up in 2 hits
  • Kartalin
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    Prolly what that sorc was wearing that blew my sorc up in 2 hits
    Likely was a stam sorc with viper, tremorscale, and black rose that one shot you with ransack as their hurricane proc'd implosion on you or something.
  • TwistedThoughtz
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    Rattle cage is good for mag templars and DKs. Sorc doesn't need heavy armor to help them survive, they have shields for that. Mag Blades have cloak to help survive.
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    It was a magicka sorc. Only ran into 1 stam sorc and was fairly easy to take down.
  • KisoValley
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    Magus wrote: »
    Most magblades and magsorcs simply slot infernal guardian and spam damage shields/annulment/healing ward and get half of their DPS from infernal guardian and then complain about stamina proc sets lol. Lich is pretty in right now for infinite sustain. That leaves you with 4 or 5 pieces leftover for flavor depending on if you going dual wield or double staff. Spinners would be likely choice for your final 5 piece.

    Can tell you're a stamina player because my infernal never even hits because it's that easy to dodge lol

    Don't talk crap please thanks
  • Magus
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    KisoValley wrote: »
    Magus wrote: »
    Most magblades and magsorcs simply slot infernal guardian and spam damage shields/annulment/healing ward and get half of their DPS from infernal guardian and then complain about stamina proc sets lol. Lich is pretty in right now for infinite sustain. That leaves you with 4 or 5 pieces leftover for flavor depending on if you going dual wield or double staff. Spinners would be likely choice for your final 5 piece.

    Can tell you're a stamina player because my infernal never even hits because it's that easy to dodge lol

    Don't talk crap please thanks

    Yeah was mostly joking - though in duels, it's a good set because it's guaranteed to target the other player since there is no other players around to get targeted. Valkyn skoria hits harder than tremorscale and almost as frequently but doesn't have the annoying snare. Grothdarr is great for AOE damage against multiple players, especially if they don't block it.

    Just pointing out the hypocrisy of some people complaining about stamina procs while using magicka ones. I don't complain, I use both lol.
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  • God_flakes
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    Rattle cage is good for mag templars and DKs. Sorc doesn't need heavy armor to help them survive, they have shields for that. Mag Blades have cloak to help survive.

    Too bad all those other defenses can't really be mitigated but cloak is broke af.
  • Nutshotz
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    Cloak is broke that it don't work or you stating that it's actually broken, broken? @God_flakes
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    This is not a question for everyone, it's a question for magblades and sorcs! LOL

    To answer your question, the general build principle right now is to use one damage set and one sustain set with a monster set of your choosing (or 2 diff monster pieces).
    Reddington James — Magsorc & Magplar (NA PC)
  • The-Baconator
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    For sorc run 5 lich with a resto back bar, an offensive 5 piece set, and then whatever undaunted set\pieces you prefer.
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  • FriedEggSandwich
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    If you like to be independant in pvp as a sorc you will most likely need either lich, seducer or amber plasm. One tamriel update opened up the possibility to wear 2x 5 pieces though so you can combine your 5 lich/seducer/amberplasm with 5 anything you fancy really. I'm currently wearing 5x seducer with 5x spinners and vma destro/resto, but I'm farming lich and amberplasm in a half-hearted manner.

    If you're not too concerned with being independant you could forsake the sustain sets and just combine 2 damage sets. You will hit harder but run out of resources if you over-stretch, which is why you would probably need the support of a group to play like this.
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  • God_flakes
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    Cloak is broke that it don't work or you stating that it's actually broken, broken? @God_flakes

    It's just not as helpful as it was before, IMO. Not as helpful as it should be considering it's a nb's main defense mechanism.
  • Knootewoot
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    Currently as magblade I wear:

    when destroy en resto
    - 5 pieces spinner
    - 5 piecer kragh's hope
    - 1 shoulder of infernal guardian (I do not have helmet :( )

    sometimes I go dual wield and then have 2 sword krah's hope en replace the helmet with molag kena for extra spell damage

    I wish I had the necropotence for the extra 4k magicka when I have my shade out but I never loot a good piece. But the spell penetration is also good.
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  • KisoValley
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    Magus wrote: »
    KisoValley wrote: »
    Magus wrote: »
    Most magblades and magsorcs simply slot infernal guardian and spam damage shields/annulment/healing ward and get half of their DPS from infernal guardian and then complain about stamina proc sets lol. Lich is pretty in right now for infinite sustain. That leaves you with 4 or 5 pieces leftover for flavor depending on if you going dual wield or double staff. Spinners would be likely choice for your final 5 piece.

    Can tell you're a stamina player because my infernal never even hits because it's that easy to dodge lol

    Don't talk crap please thanks

    Yeah was mostly joking - though in duels, it's a good set because it's guaranteed to target the other player since there is no other players around to get targeted. Valkyn skoria hits harder than tremorscale and almost as frequently but doesn't have the annoying snare. Grothdarr is great for AOE damage against multiple players, especially if they don't block it.

    Just pointing out the hypocrisy of some people complaining about stamina procs while using magicka ones. I don't complain, I use both lol.

    Thing with Grothdar, it wouldn't be nearly as powerful if it wasn't bugged to the point it has no CD and scaled correctly.

    Tremor damage isn't the issue. It's just ANOTHER snare on top of all the other snares in the game. I honestly think snares need to be reworked or just removed completely. When I swapped to my mag sorc/nb/dk I never realised how many snares there are. On my stamDK which is my main *** so much easier.
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