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The 'Almost' Immortal Warrior PVE tank build

xynode
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My tank build for PVE dungeons AND trials. It has been in the making for a very long time and finally ready to present. This build has tanked everything (including Rakkhat although he didn't die that day lol).

You "CAN" use this in PVP if you are leading a zerg or griefing the hell out of people with stuns roots etc, just have to switch off the ranged taunt for claws and you can pretty much hold on to a target all of the time while stunning them with vamp heal/ferocious leap, and avoiding snares and cc...its really annoying! Your damage shields means you cant be crit hit, your vampire mist means you take less damage and immune to cc, your heals are huge and you heal FROM incoming magic projectiles....bring on the crystal shards:)

Ill post how to run this in pvp with a couple of changes this week IF people are interested. ENJOY!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kx5xJIfOUb0
  • Mr_Apollo
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    Would you be interested in making a written guide and description of this build? Quite interested in trying it out, see how it ranks against my custom tank builds
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  • xynode
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    The youtube link explains pretty much all of it but sure if people are interested I shall get together a written guide for you guys!
  • hagencopen
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    Sweet vid bruv. Gives me some inspiration for my DK.
  • xynode
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    Thank you @hagencopen glad you like it! any questions please feel free, ill answer them asap
  • Callaghan83
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    A very good video! In depth guidance and information without being repetitive. Alot of the well known youtubers should take note, great build buddy megabounce.gif
  • xynode
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    Thank you @Callaghan83 much appreciated! Hopefully I didn't miss anything out, but if you guys have any questions please let me know! :)
  • DarkDeller
    Imperial and Redgaurd would work aswell?
  • xynode
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    @DarkDeller Imperial would work fine although you would be missing 5% healing received from the orc passives but you would have a bigger pool for hp and stam, which means with imperial passives your light and heavies could heal you for quite a lot(% of MAX hps) and your igneous shields will be stronger(6% extra hps over the orc).
    Redguard could work but you will have a lot less hps and miss some vital passives such as hp buffer etc. Redguard are more for their stam pool and resource management as a dps but its not impossible. HOWEVER argonian would definitely compliment this build (but be missing the stam).

    Nutshell passives that can make or break (just the important ones):

    Orc - 6% max hps and stam, nice...and 5% healing received - that's a big one for this build (total of 71% healing received, boosts the crap out of the leeching set).

    Imperial - 12% max hps and 10% max stam plus ability to heal I think 7% of your max hps (proc % chance based per 4 secs or so) with light and heavy attacks.

    Redguard - 10% stam and light/heavy attacks give back a % of your max pool every 3/4secs. Our pool isn't all that big and nor would it be THAT big with this build anyway so the % gain is minimal, save it for dps struggling with stam management.

    SECOND BEST CHOICE - Argonian! healing received AND healing done by 5%, yes they stack. Taking potions fill 12% of ALL resources (extra oh crap button, tri pots are ridiculous), and also you have 9% max hps....however you will loose the 6%/10% stam pool which the orc and imperial get.

    Argonian works really well but since I can get "up to" (note it fluctuates) 34k plus heals per tick, the bonuses as an orc are enough however IF you are good at managing your resources, why not, it IS a very good choice:)
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on November 16, 2016 6:55PM
  • Gaggin
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    I'd be interested to see how this works on lass bosses of vhrc and vaa. I like the different take on tanking, but it seems like it'd be a healer's nightmare, or at least a problem when it comes to resource management.
  • xynode
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    Hi @Gaggin

    Use the blue hp and stam food for VHR and VAA, gives you a bigger pool and works really nice and because you are all divines you still have really good magicka regen to spam shields, buffs, heals etc.
    keep your shields up, pay attention to when you NEED to block(yes i know thats a lot on warrior and axes) and then get stam back when you can.

    Note in the video I also stated you can use the sword and board (block) ultimate. With this build it cost's you 85 ulti, which is nothing, and you can just heavy attack for 5secs or so and your stam is FULL! IF you are struggling you can take some points in the green tree and put into block reduction costs IF you need to but that is up to you.

    ALSO on the warrior take advantage of his no damage windows....if he is throwing his shield at the group with his back to you, heavy attack him! During the split and block phase also where the group spreads blocks and heals...heavy attack shield heavy attack shield, you wont die and then you have full stam for the cleave.

    It takes a little practice but it works really well. It isn't your traditional "hold block forever tank" I know, but if you are happy to use your skills and mechanics of the bosses to your advantage and use those windows of opportunity playing the tank "actively" it will pay off.

    You can change skills/uliti's and potions ( i use magika potions but you can use immoveable,tri whatever) to suit you or the fight at hand of course but the base is there for you.:)
  • xynode
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    Ultimate gain example

    Ultimate as a Dk tank is really important even more so with low resources so here is an example of one boss.
    In sanctum Orphidia when the serpent goes into the world shaper stage and the poison stage... Heavy attack him if you need stam back...OR spam your vampire heal to hell along with light/heavy attack and heroic slash at least once. You will build SO much ultimate.

    For arguments sake if the poison phase lasts lets say, around 10 seconds... you heavy attack, heroic slash, igneous and x2 vamp heals, that is around 70 ulti just during that phase alone and you still have 2 seconds to spare! Throw in another vamp heal as he switches to world shaper (he's not hitting you, DON'T BLOCK) and that's your 85 sword and board ulti ready! or almost half a war horn (costs 213 on this build). It is really fast. Remember, war horn helps the group and the block ulti is your "I can heavy attack like hell and nothing happens to me" button. Yes sadly enough i have seen people trying to block while that ulti is active /sigh.

    The trick is finding those windows comfortably. If you can manage and fully understand HOW to gain ultimate and use that to your advantage efficiently you can build 100 ulti in 12-15 seconds easy at certain stages. If you have 4x war horns in your group, Yours can sometimes be first and then ready by the time number 4 has even thought about it. Don't stand there blocking during phases that do not require you to do so because that is what other tanks do....build some resources, build some ulti, shield the group. All that good stuff. Don't miss a block of course, but don't block for NO reason.

    Again this does take practice, its not an over night build but if you can get used to it, you will like it:).
  • Gaggin
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    Bah that shield ulti for pve was a major dissapointment for me. Even though you're getting the dmg mitigation it still doesnt block certain boss mechanics whicn can leave you stunned, knocked down, etc. I think it may be a bug, which means its a feature now.

    Also why not use trifood? the extra magicka and stam has gotta be better than one or the other.

    And with such a small stamina pool you're gonna have trouble on bosses where u have to run and dodge like in vmol, cradle of shadows, etc.
  • xynode
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    The ulti if it does do that it's a bug but then you can counter those bugs by using immoveable potions etc. Although some knock downs are meant to knock you down even if you block, but the damage is still mitigated (ie the trolls in sanctum and the big dude in icp, they always knock down) just know your target and work around it.

    The stam pool isn't an issue because heavy attack/igneous can help you or buffer with blue food if you are struggling. You don't need tri food because your magic pool doesn't need to be bigger. Max pools run out when they are spent..however your magic regen is so high you don't run out even with a small pool (2.8k with a potion and hp mag rec food, 2.1k with potion and stam food).

    As far as dodge roll goes, manage your resources if you really have to dodge, but snares and running are not a problem..

    1) you are an orc and you sprint faster (although I wouldn't recommend sprinting)
    2) mist form (the speed morph) reduces incoming damage and makes you run 30% faster, you don't need the stam to run a decent speed or negate snares, roots etc AND the damage is mitigated by 75% while active (yes magic recovery stops while active, but stam recovery does not and your magic regen is so high that after mist form you can recover in mere seconds).

    Note, you do need to know that mist form generally doesn't effect HEAVY attacks from bosses but negates pretty much all the rest if you are in a jam. ALSO as tested and ill post a vid of this since it's funny...The warpriests woh ping pong heavy attack the crap out of you in sanctum? Hit nothing but DUST! their heavy's just hit air with mist form saves on a LOT of stam if you can time it.

    Also In vmol, you don't need to dodge roll as a tank. Just be careful where you position yourself.

    Again this build DOES work but it requires practice, done a LOT of testing. Keep the questions coming and ill do my best to answer them for you:)
  • xynode
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    If i get enough views/subscribers ill post some examples of some of the above notes
  • Elk512
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    Howdy Xynode,

    I'm a new player and leveling up this build from level 1. Currently I'm 25 and having a great time with it. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for skill morphs not covered in your video (also unless I missed something in the video, I had to do the pause / un-pause jig to see what each skill was). Thanks for the fun build.
  • AzuraKin
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    just gonna put out there shields are not gonna prevent you from dying shields yes prevent crits, but damage to shields are not mitigated by armor.
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  • charley222
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    build is only ok for group btw using bone shield is bad for holding block is cost to much stam also bad trais for tank nothing beat study and champion point are worng no Shadow Ward this guy dont hold block long time vs hard boss , ,btw the build is very weak for soloing any dps
    i dont see any issue here , because any dps for pve any dps for pvp , this is why the guy skip the video vs the 4 healing templar , he only tank trash mob
    Edited by charley222 on November 14, 2016 3:27PM
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  • Autolycus
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    I'm viewing this at work and have no audio to listen to your commentary. It looks like 5pc Leeching, 5pc. Dragon, and 2pc. Malubeth?

    What utility are you providing your group outside of War Horn?

    When you say you've "tanked everything," are you including veteran trials + hardmodes? Are you using Invigorating Drain on the Warrior HM and Mage Axes HM and surviving through the cast?

    How much ult per minute are you generating, in practice (not on paper)? Or perhaps it's easier to say how long it takes to generate a full War Horn (on a boss please, not trash).

    Are you using Hardening enchantment on both of your swords? They share the same cooldown so you're not getting any benefit from having two. Your reason for having Hardening is obvious and I'm not trying to knock your theme, but perhaps it's best to have your off-hand weapon feature a Crushing glyph to add more utility.
    Edited by Autolycus on November 14, 2016 5:17PM
  • xynode
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    AzuraKin wrote: »
    just gonna put out there shields are not gonna prevent you from dying shields yes prevent crits, but damage to shields are not mitigated by armor.

    Depends on the situation and it WILL stop you from dying if you time it right depending on the strength of the shield vs the hit. PVE of course depends on WHAT hits you, but pvp the shields even protect you against the poison damage phase on the serpent etc.
    Correct shields negate crits in PVP and also dont have resists in pvp or pve, but that the flat hits will still be ignored. For example a 45k damage shield WILL negate you from taking 45k damage. its as simple as flat incoming damage mitigation. You avoid as much as you would be hit by.

    It doesn't need to have resists, my resists are just for when the shields are down
    Edited by xynode on November 14, 2016 5:05PM
  • xynode
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    charley222 wrote: »
    build is only ok for group btw using bone shield is bad for holding block is cost to much stam also bad trais for tank nothing beat study and champion point are worng no Shadow Ward this guy dont hold block long time vs hard boss , ,btw the build is very weak for soloing any dps
    i dont see any issue here , because any dps for pve any dps for pvp , this is why the guy skip the video vs the 4 healing templar , he only tank trash mob

    First of all this is NOT for dps at all this is for pure tanking. Secondly the traits are personal choice if you like sturdy go sturdy. For me i like the divines.

    And as for holding block forever....I don't hold block forever, this is not a perma block tank build as already stated. I block when I "need to not because i can" And big boss fights where a lot of blocking is required, change your food as stated at the end of the video, OR use your initiative and alter the build to your preference.

    Also bone shield is not just for me, it is for the group, the synergy they get from it shields 6 people for a crap load. The only cool down timer is for the person who pressed the synergy. Bob can hit the synergy(cool down 20secs for him) but Jack can hit the next one no problem.

    Note the trash pull was to show the self sustain while the having the ability to shield the group in close quarters.

    Also you noted "dps" for pve and pvp? this is a TANK! not dps. But if you want dps on your tank then by all means there are plenty of good builds which accommodate "your play style".

    Thank you for the comments however regardless of the lack of "critique" and the abundance of "you are wrong". I do appreciate this is not for everyone:)

    Thanks again much appreciate i hope this helps your notes in regards to how i personally make it work


  • xynode
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    Elk512 wrote: »
    Howdy Xynode,

    I'm a new player and leveling up this build from level 1. Currently I'm 25 and having a great time with it. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for skill morphs not covered in your video (also unless I missed something in the video, I had to do the pause / un-pause jig to see what each skill was). Thanks for the fun build.

    Sure i can help you if you would like, what are you using at the moment?
  • xynode
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    Autolycus wrote: »
    I'm viewing this at work and have no audio to listen to your commentary. It looks like 5pc Leeching, 5pc. Dragon, and 2pc. Malubeth?

    What utility are you providing your group outside of War Horn?

    When you say you've "tanked everything," are you including veteran trials + hardmodes? Are you using Invigorating Drain on the Warrior HM and Mage Axes HM and surviving through the cast?

    How much ult per minute are you generating, in practice (not on paper)? Or perhaps it's easier to say how long it takes to generate a full War Horn (on a boss please, not trash).

    Are you using Hardening enchantment on both of your swords? They share the same cool down so you're not getting any benefit from having two. Your reason for having Hardening is obvious and I'm not trying to knock your theme, but perhaps it's best to have your off-hand weapon feature a Crushing glyph to add more utility.


    Yes you are correct crushing will be best on the back bar, that weapons needs upgrading and probably should have altered that for the video. I am aware the two same enchantments dont work together.

    Tanked everything yes "tanked" all vet trials and not struggled as the tank. Invigorating drain is a cheeky skill, Look for a window. Because of the big heals you receive during the channelling, first of all make sure igneous was cast to buff the heal. Don't do it through big hits but if you know where the gaps are its HUGE ulti gain. EG serpent poison phase, world shaper count down, between ozara and warpriests heavy attacks...warrior when he throws shield, jumps etc etc lots of opportunities. For the aa axes its actually optimal to use the block ultimate(85 ultimate), very easy to generate. if you struggle for stam, switch food for hp+stam on that fight.
    One more thing, you don't have to channel all 3 seconds, if you want a quick fix, you can cacel at any time and just receive the ulti for the time spent.

    In terms of group utility it does shield them to hell with the ability to keep igneous and bone shield coming all the time(group takes the synergy to shield everyone). He can also run chains, claws, igneous weapons etc etc at a switch of a skill. All tanking should be based on the situation and switch out the skills as and when required(no fight is the same).

    The trick is, this is an active tank not a block tank so yes full attention has to be paid rather than just holding block as some builds do.

    The ulti generation per whatever time can be seen in the video. Before i jump off the bridge i explain how to build it fast enough to use the ferocious leap(my oh *** button) pretty much whenever i need it. Which can also work the same of course for building warhorn. Warhorn costs 213 ulti with this build if you play it correctly you have a war horn every minute easily. infact , faster than that I think its like every 40 seconds or so. I run some more tests and get you an exact figure (on boss not trash).

    thanks for your questions and for watching the video, much appreciated.

    Have fun!
  • charley222
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    xynode wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    build is only ok for group btw using bone shield is bad for holding block is cost to much stam also bad trais for tank nothing beat study and champion point are worng no Shadow Ward this guy dont hold block long time vs hard boss , ,btw the build is very weak for soloing any dps
    i dont see any issue here , because any dps for pve any dps for pvp , this is why the guy skip the video vs the 4 healing templar , he only tank trash mob

    First of all this is NOT for dps at all this is for pure tanking. Secondly the traits are personal choice if you like sturdy go sturdy. For me i like the divines.

    And as for holding block forever....I don't hold block forever, this is not a perma block tank build as already stated. I block when I "need to not because i can" And big boss fights where a lot of blocking is required, change your food as stated at the end of the video, OR use your initiative and alter the build to your preference.

    Also bone shield is not just for me, it is for the group, the synergy they get from it shields 6 people for a crap load. The only cool down timer is for the person who pressed the synergy. Bob can hit the synergy(cool down 20secs for him) but Jack can hit the next one no problem.

    Note the trash pull was to show the self sustain while the having the ability to shield the group in close quarters.

    Also you noted "dps" for pve and pvp? this is a TANK! not dps. But if you want dps on your tank then by all means there are plenty of good builds which accommodate "your play style".

    Thank you for the comments however regardless of the lack of "critique" and the abundance of "you are wrong". I do appreciate this is not for everyone:)

    Thanks again much appreciate i hope this helps your notes in regards to how i personally make it work

    1- no worry i know tank are not dps , is because the title of your topic say Immortal and you got 10k stam lol
    2- sorry not agree , for me i dont call this pure tanking because your tank have poor blocking mean you can not sustain your stamina , vs some boss or in pvp , you dont block = you are dead ,
    3- you say (Note the trash pull was to show the self sustain) this show anything because is trash , take something that hurt , there you will really show how how your build sustain , yes your build really help the party but you hurt your tank , mean dead tank help anything , if you play on pc na let solo harder stuff :)

    plz show me your tank is Immortal using 10k stamina and you have any stamina reduction cost for blocking lol

    real tank have easy 60% reduction cost and 40% breaking free redution , anyway i invite you to show me all this :) vs something harder or in pvp , night blade fear you 2 time and your dead 10k stam tank lolol

    Edited by charley222 on November 14, 2016 7:03PM
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  • xynode
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    charley222 wrote: »
    xynode wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    build is only ok for group btw using bone shield is bad for holding block is cost to much stam also bad trais for tank nothing beat study and champion point are worng no Shadow Ward this guy dont hold block long time vs hard boss , ,btw the build is very weak for soloing any dps
    i dont see any issue here , because any dps for pve any dps for pvp , this is why the guy skip the video vs the 4 healing templar , he only tank trash mob

    First of all this is NOT for dps at all this is for pure tanking. Secondly the traits are personal choice if you like sturdy go sturdy. For me i like the divines.

    And as for holding block forever....I don't hold block forever, this is not a perma block tank build as already stated. I block when I "need to not because i can" And big boss fights where a lot of blocking is required, change your food as stated at the end of the video, OR use your initiative and alter the build to your preference.

    Also bone shield is not just for me, it is for the group, the synergy they get from it shields 6 people for a crap load. The only cool down timer is for the person who pressed the synergy. Bob can hit the synergy(cool down 20secs for him) but Jack can hit the next one no problem.

    Note the trash pull was to show the self sustain while the having the ability to shield the group in close quarters.

    Also you noted "dps" for pve and pvp? this is a TANK! not dps. But if you want dps on your tank then by all means there are plenty of good builds which accommodate "your play style".

    Thank you for the comments however regardless of the lack of "critique" and the abundance of "you are wrong". I do appreciate this is not for everyone:)

    Thanks again much appreciate i hope this helps your notes in regards to how i personally make it work

    1- no worry i know tank are not dps , is because the title of your topic say Immortal and you got 10k stam lol
    2- sorry not agree , for me i dont call this pure tanking because your tank have poor blocking mean you can not sustain your stamina , vs some boss or in pvp , you dont block = you are dead ,
    3- you say (Note the trash pull was to show the self sustain) this show anything because is trash , take something that hurt , there you will really show how how your build sustain , yes your build really help the party but you hurt your tank , mean dead tank help anything , if you play on pc na let solo harder stuff :)

    plz show me your tank is Immortal using 10k stamina and you have any stamina reduction cost for blocking lol

    real tank have easy 60% reduction cost and 40% breaking free redution , anyway i invite you to show me all this :) vs something harder or in pvp , night blade fear you 2 time and your dead 10k stam tank lolol


    This is Not for PVP... even the title states "PVE", I did show a trick at the end for pvp but that was a skill not strictly the build.

    If you do not support the build then that is your choice and i fully appreciate this is not to everyone's taste. This is however a build i have created, i use, and would like to share.

    I shall post more videos in the future for what you call "harder stuff" and you can judge for yourself then. Unless of course you have already completely tested this build yourself? in which case my hands are tied lol

    Thanks for the follow and im sure ill speak to you again in the near future:)
  • charley222
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    xynode wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    xynode wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    build is only ok for group btw using bone shield is bad for holding block is cost to much stam also bad trais for tank nothing beat study and champion point are worng no Shadow Ward this guy dont hold block long time vs hard boss , ,btw the build is very weak for soloing any dps
    i dont see any issue here , because any dps for pve any dps for pvp , this is why the guy skip the video vs the 4 healing templar , he only tank trash mob

    First of all this is NOT for dps at all this is for pure tanking. Secondly the traits are personal choice if you like sturdy go sturdy. For me i like the divines.

    And as for holding block forever....I don't hold block forever, this is not a perma block tank build as already stated. I block when I "need to not because i can" And big boss fights where a lot of blocking is required, change your food as stated at the end of the video, OR use your initiative and alter the build to your preference.

    Also bone shield is not just for me, it is for the group, the synergy they get from it shields 6 people for a crap load. The only cool down timer is for the person who pressed the synergy. Bob can hit the synergy(cool down 20secs for him) but Jack can hit the next one no problem.

    Note the trash pull was to show the self sustain while the having the ability to shield the group in close quarters.

    Also you noted "dps" for pve and pvp? this is a TANK! not dps. But if you want dps on your tank then by all means there are plenty of good builds which accommodate "your play style".

    Thank you for the comments however regardless of the lack of "critique" and the abundance of "you are wrong". I do appreciate this is not for everyone:)

    Thanks again much appreciate i hope this helps your notes in regards to how i personally make it work

    1- no worry i know tank are not dps , is because the title of your topic say Immortal and you got 10k stam lol
    2- sorry not agree , for me i dont call this pure tanking because your tank have poor blocking mean you can not sustain your stamina , vs some boss or in pvp , you dont block = you are dead ,
    3- you say (Note the trash pull was to show the self sustain) this show anything because is trash , take something that hurt , there you will really show how how your build sustain , yes your build really help the party but you hurt your tank , mean dead tank help anything , if you play on pc na let solo harder stuff :)

    plz show me your tank is Immortal using 10k stamina and you have any stamina reduction cost for blocking lol

    real tank have easy 60% reduction cost and 40% breaking free redution , anyway i invite you to show me all this :) vs something harder or in pvp , night blade fear you 2 time and your dead 10k stam tank lolol


    This is Not for PVP... even the title states "PVE", I did show a trick at the end for pvp but that was a skill not strictly the build.

    If you do not support the build then that is your choice and i fully appreciate this is not to everyone's taste. This is however a build i have created, i use, and would like to share.

    I shall post more videos in the future for what you call "harder stuff" and you can judge for yourself then. Unless of course you have already completely tested this build yourself? in which case my hands are tied lol

    Thanks for the follow and im sure ill speak to you again in the near future:)

    i just ask you how this build break free and block using 10k stam and any cost reduction
    i guess you have any answer because you cut your video vs the 4 templar , because this 4 templar will bash you on the floor and you will need to break free , let go just show us how you tank the 4 templay you skip this in your video ???????
    Edited by charley222 on November 14, 2016 8:09PM
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  • xynode
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    skipped? I didn't face the templars in the video but yes I can keep them busy too. But ill show some videos at a later date if you would like:)
    Edited by xynode on November 14, 2016 8:52PM
  • Elk512
    Elk512
    You're very well mannered.

    Anyway, I have the following skills ready to morph. Any insight into which morph would be beneficial would be much appreciated. Also, would dual wield or 2 handed help out?

    Searing Strike/Fiery Breath
    Dark Talons/Reflective Scales
    Stonefist
    Shield Charge
    Edited by Elk512 on November 15, 2016 3:16AM
  • xynode
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    Elk512 wrote: »
    You're very well mannered.

    Anyway, I have the following skills ready to morph. Any insight into which morph would be beneficial would be much appreciated. Also, would dual wield or 2 handed help out?

    Searing Strike/Fiery Breath
    Dark Talons/Reflective Scales
    Stonefist
    Shield Charge

    Hello @Elk512

    2hander on the back bar some people use in pvp and pve and for a little damage while leveling also if they have HIGH stamina pool they use rally as a heal(momentum morph) although with low stam this sint really going to work. dual wield will not benefit you at all.

    Ok the skills you have maybe starting skills of which you are using and not all of them are of use, however some specifically are useful for leveling up specific passive skills you WILL need.

    Stonefist, you wont use.

    Shield charge is more for pvp, you can use it as a gap closer in certain dungeons but you wont really be using it

    Reflective scales is mostly used in pvp to reflect ccasted abilities, it can be used in pve but its situation and not really used much.

    dark talons yes is very effective, you use it to pin down adds and also the group can hit a synergy....if you morph for choking talons you will recieve 15% less damage from each enemy in the claws ability for thr duration of the skill.

    Fiery breath is situation. If you have people in your group using flame abilities, this will help them a lot but if not then you wont use it.

    Searing strike is for dps you wont use it

    However, pro tip for leveling...Make sure you have at least one skill from each of your 3 CLASS skill lines on your bar at all times. this will healp each skill line level up. The more of that skill line on the bar the faster it will level and the sooner you will get the passives. You need earthen heart leveld to 50 ASAP. Once you hit level 50 you can then respect anything that was useless at the time and go full abilities to your strengths and get back the skill points you dont use for other stuff.
    Edited by xynode on November 15, 2016 5:43AM
  • Elk512
    Elk512
    @Xynode - Do you think the morphs to convert fiery breath and searing strike into stamina abilities is a good idea sub CP160? I'm finding that I'm always burning my magicka pool down. I've been tempted to grab those as stam powers while using sword/shield until I get to a point that an end game build is viable. I suppose it won't be as much of a concern if I start buying up some 2 handed skills - however I have been assuming that sticking with one handed / shield until it's 50 is the best way to go. Already in the mid 30's so it's going at a good clip.
  • Mr_Apollo
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    Peeps complaining about the 10k stamina and block reduction...you do know its a custom build correct? And you do know you can test it out on the PTS before complaining? Ill say this, I wont follow the build, not a big fan of following someone else's builds, but I have 3 tanks (levelin a 4th), a sorcerer, a dragonknight and a nightblade. And my dragonknight has no points into stamina (so 10k, 12k with trifood) and hes a pretty decent and good tank. I can pull, kill, survive and even have a somewhat good survivability amongst duels (would never take him into PvP though, but again, I don't pvp with any of my toons). I also have no block mitigation (unless you mean shadow ward cp points and the enchants on the jewelry, and its not even that high, would say 15%). Try the build out, see if you like it before doing any harsh comments, please, that's all I ask.

    @xynode

    And to you, I say job well done for creating a custom build, its getting more and more difficult to find custom builds on tanks, dps and healers rather than a specific build that everyone follows.

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