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What is your opinon on the current 1vX builds?
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Grim13✭✭✭✭✭
✭1vX builds should not exist.I just love the wild, out of control hypocrisy of the pro 1vx'ers who'll tell you, straight-faced, that 1-2 shot kill bow ganking shouldn't exist within cyrodiil... then happily tell you to "learn to play" in defense of 1vx builds...
lmao
Pot, meet kettle.
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suycyco✭✭✭1vX builds are fine but need some balance.I don't have any problem with the fact that 1vX builds are effectives if well played, just they are all based on the same base (staff/shield/light armor) and it would be cool if other weapons/armor has so good synergies to have more variety in cyrodiil.1 -
So you say if I run into let's say 3 players and they can't kill me for some reason I should sty still and let them since they are 3 and I should not be able to kill them alone?Black-Bird wrote: »1 v X and winning is the exact opposite of balance.[EU-AD] | Lilisara Adthar | Templar | Aliance Rank 33
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Lfehova✭✭✭✭Other.There is no such thing as a 1vX build.
There is only single target or AOE.
Either build, requires stupidity from enemy players, to successfully pull off.
Now that level of negligence greatly differs, ranging from people afking in banners to people just not using the right rotation of skills to execute you or prevent ult generation. But any 1vX video is lame, because it requires unskilled players to make.
Also, I've 1vX'd good players as well, but the only reason a single player can kill 5-8 good players, is because they were either caught off guard, or because a sea of zerglings surrounded them and fed me ultimate.Characters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
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KBKB✭✭✭✭✭
✭1vX builds should not exist.ut.nakladacprb19_ESO wrote: »
So you say if I run into let's say 3 players and they can't kill me for some reason I should sty still and let them since they are 3 and I should not be able to kill them alone?Black-Bird wrote: »1 v X and winning is the exact opposite of balance.
More coming from when a single wipes 5 players out with their HP bar hardly moving, spin how you like 5 people hitting one guy should be able to defeat them.
And i didn't say that at all very poor attempt at miss quoting me.1 -
Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Other.
Nor does a DK need Harness Magicka to stand still in a group of people and hold block while dumping Standards and/or Batswarms.
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭1vX builds should not exist.They shouldn't be in the game at all. It shouldn't take 10+ players to kill one guy of most likely around the same level too. Also on top of this too the should not at all be able to build these 1vsX builds using robes and/or a stick.Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on November 6, 2014 1:48AM1 -
Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭1vX builds are fine.This thread makes no sense. Wtf is a 1vX build.Edited by Aeratus on November 6, 2014 1:54AM2
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭1vX builds are fine.The only problem I have with 1VX builds is that they get stuff nerfed due to the people that get 1VX'd lobbying for nerfs. Other than that they are fine and typically produce some entertaining videos.Edited by timidobserver on November 6, 2014 2:13AMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Meh.I just love the wild, out of control hypocrisy of the pro 1vx'ers who'll tell you, straight-faced, that 1-2 shot kill bow ganking shouldn't exist within cyrodiil... then happily tell you to "learn to play" in defense of 1vx builds...
lmao
Pot, meet kettle.
I never thought about it like that.....
nice! you win an awesome!:D
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SRIBES✭✭✭✭✭1vX builds are fine.Don't want 1vX to exist? Well then all bad players need to be removed.
1vX is only a thing due to beating players worse than you in most situations. I don't even know how it would be possible to remove 1vX builds. The build Sypher and I made is not designed for 1vX entirely and mostly just revolves around other players messing up or being noobs and tanking out the smart ones till the noobs are dead. Plz Buff player skill zos3 -
Itoq✭✭✭✭1vX builds are fine but need some balance.I have no huge prob with the strength of DK passives, skills and ultimates, DK and Temp healing, vamp ultimates and skills, shield stacking in general, NB sap and whatever else I am missing. But, four second reflect could be tweaked a bit - or keep that and lose a bit of strength vs melee and stam regen/stam healing.Edited by Itoq on November 6, 2014 8:40AM0 -
thodoris1008✭✭1vX builds should not exist.I am aware that 1vX builds are counterable,but in my opinion a groop should not have to deploy special tactics in order to bring down 1 guy (and still take ages to kill him).A groop should be able to run over 1 single player.Maybe the emperor could be an exception to that,but for everyone else it makes pvp look stupid imo.1 -
Kypho✭✭✭✭1vX builds should not exist.Block.... the worst designed crap in game. 360 degree is a joke, but whatever, its fun.
Some skills made that way, that its most effective against more ppl, like sap essence. Its not that good 1v1, but great against 3+.
BUT its completly BS imo. There should be more ballance. OFC you can build 1vX build, but rarely Heavy Armor, mostly Light Armor.... tanky LA ehh? But it is ZoS who made it, and they love madness. Long live Sheogorath ehh ZoS?1 -
CrazedDark✭✭1vX builds are fine but need some balance.Yeah, they're frustrating, but then again. What makes them flourish is feeding yourself to them. Had a sword and board sorc running my guild around Sejanus and we couldn't get organized enough to bring him down. It's all about not feeding the trolls.VR 14 Nord Templar Nils of the Gylander
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Bramir✭✭✭✭1vX builds are fine but need some balance.One decent healer is all it takes to counter someone trying to tank a whole group. They might manage to kill someone who is super squishy, but that person was going to get killed first in the next fight anyway.
They will eventually run out of resources and die...sometimes I speed up the process by dropping a negate magic on them if I'm in a hurry, but I usually save ultimates for targeting groups.
The answer here is not L2P, it is learn to heal...resto staff is available to everyone, and every class can make an interesting PvP healer.0 -
Insurrektion✭✭✭1vX builds are fine.darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »If I can have a 'well rounded build' that can heal itself and everyone plays the same build with that ability why would I play support?
If I can have a 'well rounded build' that can Dps down people in 3-5 seconds solo why would I build to help dps with a group?
If I can have a 'well rounded build' that can outlast 4-5 people laying into me, kill them and then heal myself to full why would I even bother with any other build?
How you cant see that will lead to degenerate, stagnant gameplay is beyond my understanding.
What build is that?0 -
Insurrektion✭✭✭1vX builds are fine.mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »Resto staff/SB light armor shield stacking needs to go. I am not trolling or being sarcastic either. The combination has been OP for some time, and thats why every single 1vx player has the same exact build no matter what toon they are on.
If there was a serious (honest) hard counter, then I wouldnt care, but currently there is nothing available that can shut the build down besides massive outnumbering or running it vs itself
What exactly about it needs to go you think?
Only one shield should ever be applicable at a time, you should not be able to stack shields atop each other, and any shields that are up should be dispelled the moment the weapon or bar they were cast from is swapped (unless that same ability is also on bar two, such as is the case of magelight) or when a new shield is cast.
Additionally, light armor needs more drawbacks (probably within the armor rating system itself) to make it glass cannon vs tanky as all hell in the current meta.
My DK is a destro staff/sword n shield firebomb build that while I wouldnt be producing such videos as we have seen before, counts as a solid 1vX build in practice. I have taken on as many as 10 at once, came out alive with 10 kills to show for it, though much smaller scale is more common. It isnt my class skills, it isnt my damage output, its the fact that even with my destro staff out I take so little damage from anything that I can pop my active heal and erase most of the damage I took at practically any time, with a severely low cost due to wearing 7LA + Seducer.
Same DK can also stack shields (minus healing ward) via Igneous + Harness, for 1800 points of shields that give back magicka and increase my self healing. What the heck man?
All id have to do to be god in this current meta is level up resto, take impulse (or wall of elements) off my bar, throw on healing ward, and rely on DK class skills (lash or talons or inhale) to do my damage. And I full well know it. The resto heavy attacks would pretty much render this build immortal as anyone else that uses similar knows. (The magicka regen buff was the most *** move ZOS ever made for balance, the 10 percent damage nerf was nothing compared to getting a full bar of magicka back in five seconds)
In fact the only reason I havent done this is because of the above stated reasons. That and I rather enjoy my massive DPS burst with destro, but I dont "need' it.
Pretty sure they changed Harness Magicka so it only gives back magicka on the first 3 casts against you. I'm willing to bet that it now nets you negative magicka but haven't tested it or anything.0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭1vX builds are fine.Healing Ward appears to be firing its heal when the ability is recast onto you.
STATUS: Potentially fixed in patch 1.5.3
^This is my only issue with PVX builds. This is basically due to PVX builds. Other than getting stuff nerfed/fixed I have no issue with them.Edited by timidobserver on November 8, 2014 2:57AMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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nightbladelordSoul Shriven1vX builds are fine.It's tanks that shouldn't exist thier so stupid and annoying. Now there are unkillable tanks.0
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Kram8ion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other.People watch these vids online and think players are easily running around killing large groups all the time
It rarely happensAussie lag is real!0 -
AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭FluffiestOne wrote: »Meh. LoM just kills the 1vXers 2 ez.
LoM is dead. just cause you call your little ep guild Legions of Magnus (LoM) dont make you really LoM which is a dc top mid tier guild from 2 years ago.
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Sanct16✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭1vX builds are the best thing for the game.
@AzuraKinFluffiestOne wrote: »Meh. LoM just kills the 1vXers 2 ez.
LoM is dead. just cause you call your little ep guild Legions of Magnus (LoM) dont make you really LoM which is a dc top mid tier guild from 2 years ago.
Would you feel embarrased if I'd told you that you just answered to a post that was made 2 year ago?
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Kova✭✭✭✭✭Agh! A rant cleverly disguised as an open ended question thread.
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Xinthisis✭✭✭✭Other.The problem with the current ESO community is many did not play the game pre cp, pre no softcap time. The game was based around softcaps and having to make sacrifices. There were some imbalances like Mag dk, but it wasn't nearly as imbalanced as classes are now. There is almost no resource sustain issues now. Pre cp, a good player could 1vX by simply outsustaining the opponents. You could legitimately run 4-5 players out of stamina and proceed to kill them during a stun. That is seldom the case currently. All a 1vx build now is to be a tank and spank build. Don't worry too much about resources because it doesn't matter if you can outsustain other players because most likely you wont have the damage to kill them even through a whole 4 second stun. Everything is so bursty now, and has been since 1.6. While the current patch is not the worst balance we've had, I still feel that 1.5 was the closest thing to a perfect balance we had. Just add in stam morphs and vigor and you have a balanced game.1 -
pcar944✭✭✭✭1vX is such a bad topic
ideally nobody should be able to 1vX
but the game, armor sets, skills, allow it to be
any class can bomb, but is that considered a 1vX?One Tamriel killed PVP
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