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Maelstrom wepons at golden vendor in cyrodil must be done Zenimax!
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✭✭✭✭✭charley222 wrote: »charley222 wrote: »mr_wazzabi wrote: »charley222 wrote: »No, AP one can simply farm without any skill. Low effort should be low rewards.
MSA weapons should have a token system and still require a clear of the entire thing.
i`m agree yes and no
the issue for Maelstrom is not a question of skill but more you need the range build
do you ever see one melee build make Maelstrom ???? i will love you show me 1 melee stam build or 1 warrior style make vet Maelstrom oO , i guess now anyone have skill lol this just show the issue it this game btw post the video if you find one thank you peace
Stam sorc and magicka templar. Both mostly melee builds.
I've beaten it with stam nightblade and stam sorc.
post the video
but btw thx you , to say is limited for 2 class only and only 1 are stam , and now show us the video i guess you have any 
Go to Youtube -> search for Stamina Maelstrom -> First page filled with Stam builds of all classes beating the arena
i say melee , 90% of Maelstrom are range
No you said NO melee. There are alot of people beating vma on stam melee builds.
Just stop. It takes very little searching to see plenty of people have beaten vma on stam builds.
Ok we can have vendor with vma weapons, BUT it only shows up next to the chest after beating vet maelstrom
Agreed. I met a guy who beat VMA earlier with a PvP setup (Black Rose, Viper, and Tremorscale). Flawless Conqueror too.
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Saint_Bud✭✭✭✭NO!!!
VMA is way to easy now!
If you not able ot complet it, you dont need the weapons. they should should drop in sharpend, precise and defending how it was original with original droprate and bring the difficult back. Then you all will not cry for the weapons, you just will cry thats to hard for youPVP Saint-Bud magicka Templar: AR 49
PVE Lord Victarion mDK : dro'm-Athra-Destroyer pre Morrowind retired for crafting
PVE Ramsay-Bolton magicka NB: Voice of Reason Clockwork City Patch retired
VAA hm/ VHRC hm/ VSO hm/ VMOL hm/ VHOF hm/ VAS hm clear
Stop playing PVE because its boring, content not disigned for melee players and class balance and sustain is ***0 -
soll✭✭✭lol noEU PC
I like to heal
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Saint_Bud✭✭✭✭charley222 wrote: »No, AP one can simply farm without any skill. Low effort should be low rewards.
MSA weapons should have a token system and still require a clear of the entire thing.
i`m agree yes and no
the issue for Maelstrom is not a question of skill but more you need the range build
do you ever see one melee build make Maelstrom ???? i will love you show me 1 melee stam build or 1 warrior style make vet Maelstrom oO , i guess now anyone have skill lol this just show the issue it this game btw post the video if you find one thank you peace
Just watch the video.
Btw top scores are stam melee builds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzXJUy8v0UA PVP Saint-Bud magicka Templar: AR 49
PVE Lord Victarion mDK : dro'm-Athra-Destroyer pre Morrowind retired for crafting
PVE Ramsay-Bolton magicka NB: Voice of Reason Clockwork City Patch retired
VAA hm/ VHRC hm/ VSO hm/ VMOL hm/ VHOF hm/ VAS hm clear
Stop playing PVE because its boring, content not disigned for melee players and class balance and sustain is ***0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lifecode666 wrote: »This makes sense in many ways since this dungeon is outdated.
500 000 or 1000 000 AP. Only sharpend and precise.
Thank you.
@Lifecode666
Only sharpened and precise? Seriously limiting and not taking into account the full scope.
Besides. No to selling them for such a cheap price, or selling them at all. 1mil AP is not that much.0 -
threefarms✭✭✭If Maelstrom weapons were sold in Cyrodiil, they would not be called Maelstrom weapons. They would be Cyrodiil weapons.0
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Decado✭✭✭✭*** it why not?
We are clearly never getting a token system so put it on the vendor who really cares at this point?
*** players will still be *** even if they buy the weapons so who cares?
Any way of getting the weapons apart from that piece of *** arena is fine with me0 -
Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭
May I point you in the direction of YouTube? Seriously stam builds are killing it in maelstrom. Maelstrom is a question of having a decent build, learning mechanics, and practicing. The only issue with maelstrom are its lag and buggy moments along with some crappy loot system.charley222 wrote: »No, AP one can simply farm without any skill. Low effort should be low rewards.
MSA weapons should have a token system and still require a clear of the entire thing.
i`m agree yes and no
the issue for Maelstrom is not a question of skill but more you need the range build
do you ever see one melee build make Maelstrom ???? i will love you show me 1 melee stam build or 1 warrior style make vet Maelstrom oO , i guess now anyone have skill lol this just show the issue it this game btw post the video if you find one thank you peace
If you can't beat maelstrom, the weapons aren't going to make you better. So no to buying, yes to a token system.0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Absolutely not. Never.
People didn't run Maelstrom Arena hundreds of times to get their weapons just so ZOS could give them away to any and every zerger.1 -
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✭FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »Can we stop with these threads already!
Why does everyone wanna be spoon fed? Maybe if people put more effort into the arena than they do with these useless threads they would finally complete it.
Maybe if the arena didnt rely on rote learning of spawn points and such more people would complete it. Watching a youtube of someone doing it seems to be the only way to finish it (at least first few times).
They should have it set up quest style, i.e. First run is easier and gives a class weapon, consecutive runs are harder and farmable for other weapons. Give players a chance to learn it themselves!
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✭its not about freaking maelstrom difficulty
its about the *** we get on last chest that makes u ask for any alternative way
One Tamriel returned many players to ESO, now the *** RNG is kicking them away.. as it did
and that double loot is BS.
if your first decisive, the second is charged, and only one trait useful for offense, rest are *** traits1 -
Surak73✭✭✭✭✭Nope. Instead, we should have some new kind of BiS weapons, comparable to Maelstrom/Master weapons, only available through pvp activities and achievements. Something like a "Grand Warlord Battle Axe", or a "Overlord Fire Staff", or a "Emperor Sword".0 -
Therwind✭✭✭To many people logging in for an hour a week and trying to change the game drastically. Play destiny please.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭mr_wazzabi wrote: »Lifecode666 wrote: »This makes sense in many ways since this dungeon is outdated.
500 000 or 1000 000 AP. Only sharpend and precise.
Thank you.
The dungeon is definitely NOT outdated. To this day, it's still the biggest test of individual player skill in the game.
Actually and lately it's not, it's roulette on the last chest that is the real test.0 -
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✭While I agree the weapons should be made for sale I disagree it should only be for AP!
I'd suggest a Token reward from Maelstrom which can be used to trade in for a week's current MSA/DSA weapon.0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lifecode666 wrote: »This makes sense in many ways since this dungeon is outdated.
500 000 or 1000 000 AP. Only sharpend and precise.
Thank you.
500k gold for weapons like this is nothing if people was able to pay on start 500k for springinan, spinners sharp weapons lol
with rng to get those sharp weapons they should cost minimum 5m gold
1m ap yoiu can obtain by spamming 1-2 skills without mind, I will say 20m+ AP will be better but not sure if still enough...ap farm zergs will have not much problem with it and will be more annyoing on cyro when avarge players will never get those 20m ap xD 5m ap cost...meh, mostly pvp players will be able to but this weapon without wasting their life for 200+ runs with rng
I dont see here any good solution to get ap price for those weapons to not punish players who wasting time on rng instead of leech ap on cyrodil0 -
UrbanMonk✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lifecode666 wrote: »This makes sense in many ways since this dungeon is outdated.
500 000 or 1000 000 AP. Only sharpend and precise.
Thank you.
Oh! I've a better solution for OP...put them in Crown store since it's so outdated ...won't that be great..
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✭I wouldn't put it in Gold vendor, but in top 2% end of campaign reward, just as master weapons used to. It requires quite a bit PvP skill and commitment, so for someone who doesnt like to grid same PvE stuff over and over, it's an alternative. Chances of geting right maelstorm weapon trought PvP would still be much harder then grinding vMA, since End rewards are far in between. vMa weapons are BiS gear and everyone shoud have at least a little bit of chance of geting then, no matter what content he enjoys more PvP or PvE. Before everyone says, you should do the content for the gear, how come no one complained when Master was in loot table!? Don't be hypocritical ppl.0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wouldn't put it in Gold vendor, but in top 2% end of campaign reward, just as master weapons used to. It requires quite a bit PvP skill and commitment, so for someone who doesnt like to grid same PvE stuff over and over, it's an alternative. Chances of geting right maelstorm weapon trought PvP would still be much harder then grinding vMA, since End rewards are far in between. vMa weapons are BiS gear and everyone shoud have at least a little bit of chance of geting then, no matter what content he enjoys more PvP or PvE. Before everyone says, you should do the content for the gear, how come no one complained when Master was in loot table!? Don't be hypocritical ppl.
MSA weapons mostly are BIS for pve not pvp at all and idk if you have seen it...but I see it..maybe not all...but most of top 2% people campaign are people who are know very good pve, are able to farm msa, vet trial and they farming it if they arnt on pvp with they ap farmzerg0 -
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✭✭I wouldn't put it in Gold vendor, but in top 2% end of campaign reward, just as master weapons used to. It requires quite a bit PvP skill and commitment, so for someone who doesnt like to grid same PvE stuff over and over, it's an alternative. Chances of geting right maelstorm weapon trought PvP would still be much harder then grinding vMA, since End rewards are far in between. vMa weapons are BiS gear and everyone shoud have at least a little bit of chance of geting then, no matter what content he enjoys more PvP or PvE. Before everyone says, you should do the content for the gear, how come no one complained when Master was in loot table!? Don't be hypocritical ppl.
MSA weapons mostly are BIS for pve not pvp at all and idk if you have seen it...but I see it..maybe not all...but most of top 2% people campaign are people who are know very good pve, are able to farm msa, vet trial and they farming it if they arnt on pvp with they ap farmzerg
Stats boost pretty much work in pvp and as well as pve.. it will not affect pvp if VMA weapons wouldn't give statsEdited by Lord_Eomer on November 12, 2016 11:58AM0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »I wouldn't put it in Gold vendor, but in top 2% end of campaign reward, just as master weapons used to. It requires quite a bit PvP skill and commitment, so for someone who doesnt like to grid same PvE stuff over and over, it's an alternative. Chances of geting right maelstorm weapon trought PvP would still be much harder then grinding vMA, since End rewards are far in between. vMa weapons are BiS gear and everyone shoud have at least a little bit of chance of geting then, no matter what content he enjoys more PvP or PvE. Before everyone says, you should do the content for the gear, how come no one complained when Master was in loot table!? Don't be hypocritical ppl.
MSA weapons mostly are BIS for pve not pvp at all and idk if you have seen it...but I see it..maybe not all...but most of top 2% people campaign are people who are know very good pve, are able to farm msa, vet trial and they farming it if they arnt on pvp with they ap farmzerg
Stats boost is pretty much work in pvp as well as pve.. it will not affect pvp if VMA weapons wouldn't give stats
I just care why top 2% will be able to get from reward those weapons who mostly are able to farm thos arenas, better will be to give a chance for those weapons who are not in top farm zergs etc, who just wanna play 4fun, without needed to to farmhard ap etc and if they have potential to make usable those weapons on they own0 -
rob_ber✭✭✭Again ...?
How about .... NO!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Been here for too longPC EU
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Namarkas✭✭✭
There is normal Maelstrom where learning it should be easier, so we actually have that.Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Maybe if the arena didnt rely on rote learning of spawn points and such more people would complete it. Watching a youtube of someone doing it seems to be the only way to finish it (at least first few times).
They should have it set up quest style, i.e. First run is easier and gives a class weapon, consecutive runs are harder and farmable for other weapons. Give players a chance to learn it themselves!
First time vet is doable on your own however, but its a hell of a ride and I would not recommend it to anybody. I burned one full stack of soulgems, dont know how many pots and tweaked setup twice mid-try.
That being said, yes to token system, no to the vendor solution. For pvp those weapons aren't really useful (correct me if I am wrong please), selling them for gold would be simply a more or less one time economy cash drain, and I dont see the big difference between actually farming vMA or farming AP and hope for the vendor to sell the right thing
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✭✭✭✭✭Lifecode666 wrote: »This makes sense in many ways since this dungeon is outdated.
500 000 or 1000 000 AP. Only sharpend and precise.
Thank you.
I agree.
It's silly and stupid to have Healing and Tank oriented weapons as a reward for doing content that healers and tanks can't even do.
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