New character classes after 3 years of stagnation

IrishGirlGamer · November 2016

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

Majic wrote: »

Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:

"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"

Then you use the Majic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...

"NOW!!!"

Okay, I have to try this:

ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me cookies!

"NOW!!!"

So .... what? Now I just wait?

Wow, nice. Chocolate chip, too. My favorite.

Thanks!

DRXHarbinger · November 2016

Don't care for a new class. Want new different content rather than arenas and stack and burn trials. A new trial like defend x from x would be a good idea, like ME3 style multilayer giving you hoards and hoards of enemies to slay and new bosses than don't require a tank to just park up and have fancy mechanics like traps to lure them in to kill them. Trials tbh are dull as ***, same boring 6 enemies over and over and over. MoL was a mediocre start but it annoys more than anything.

Or a proper dungeon, not something that can be crushed in 30 mins top, even prison and Mazzatun are easy and quick.

Proper daily quests for undaunted that require actual team work, like collect 10 dungeon boss skulls or fingers within a few hours for a reward, the bigger the better. Running into a delve and spending 5 mins is again dull.

I'd like a HVT to appear in Cyro so the most boss person at the time can be hunted for a huge reward (quite common things to happen in a war)

Please can we stop asking for devs to spend time on crap that will yet again become boring after a few days and cause more whining and nerfs. We need new content that isn't like what we have...some variety, 4 man dungeons, 12 man stack and wack and lame pvp tremorscale shankfest is all we have its so so so dull. Granted there is a main story too but I've done that 4 times and I'd rather throw my tie into the ac fan with me still wearing it than do it again.

Ghettokid · November 2016

"We"? There is no we. You remind me of my ex-wife, cause when she was pregnant she always talked about we, even when she was only one who was carrying child. Still dont get it, why she dumped me.

Granzadabur · November 2016

Lithlo wrote: »

Dear Zos -

JADED and FED UP does not even begin to cover it. So to be fair, lets start from the beginning.

After playing Beta, I remember pre-ordering the game I was so impressed. I remember creating my first character, a tank. I was hooked, captivated and delighted. I remember starting up the Storm Guides guild, probably the oldest international guild on the EU server. I remember meeting people and inviting them to my guild, because they were just as excited, and like me, could not wait to pay their subs. By the time I got to my 8th character, I was still loving the game, v16's all of them. (That's 128 Veteran levels of game play, not noob grinding, for those that don't know.).

So much changed. Vet levels got nuked through sheer apathy (I was one of thousands that thought that was a terrible idea, but no-one listened). Mechanics goal posts were shifted, rearranged, then shifted again. Still I paid my subs. I even spent crowns buying 2 more character slots, to build and play another 2 unsurprisingly familiar classes. Stam build this, magicka build that...blah blah blah. And this level 50 max-cap thing? I totally DO NOT FEEL like I am progressing anymore. You can grind to level 50 in like 2 days now, and that's what everyone is doing. The first question people ask my guild when they join, is 'how quickly can I max level. Gosh I remember the early days of people asking totally different questions - sad really, something has been lost.

3 years into the game, and we still have the same old 4 classes we had to start with. Zos, in your ambitious vision to promote the New ZosWorld Order of DLC variety and new content, you have missed the most obvious progression in the game that has been crying out for ages. Character classes. Shame on you folks! Shame!

Do you think we are absolute idiots to sell us 4 more character slots, that allow us to play the same classes again? We are sick and tired of fiddling and faffing our builds to get an inevitable Stam or Magicka build out of 4 classes. The 'Feed them Cake' (literally and figuratively) attitude has to go. Get real and at least indicate to the community that your heads are not shoved up that dark tunnel where even ogres are afraid to go?

How about alternate character classes like a druid as a healing type, with new spells and abilities. A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class. A paladin or berzerker to add spice to the DK class. A new thieving type, or even a hardcore assassin would be a nice change to a nightblade.

Hell, I would even pay crowns to own a new character class.

I remember paying subs. Now, not a chance in hell I am going to pay subs again until you, dear beloved Zos, wake up and remember .. us.

GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!

[Edit to remove mention of petition]

I can't agree with you more Lith

KimberlyannKitsuragi · November 2016

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

Majic wrote: »

Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:

"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"

Then you use the Majic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...

"NOW!!!"

Okay, I have to try this:

ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me cookies!

"NOW!!!"

So .... what? Now I just wait?

Wow, nice. Chocolate chip, too. My favorite.

Thanks!

Be careful it might be raisin

*trust issues*

nimander99 · November 2016

Many different playable classes is an Elder Scrolls thing, hell, I'd even like to see a Customer Class option, like pick three major skill lines for your own special class. I do and always will believe, in the Elder Scrolls Way!

Rex-Umbra · November 2016

Necromancer

UrQuan · November 2016

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Necromancer

There already is a necromancer class. It's forum-only and you earn XP by posting in threads that haven't seen a new post in months.

Loralai_907 · November 2016

Honestly, leveling up any more characters right now is about the opposite of what I want to be doing. But I did just power level 3 characters during the Witches Festival.

We have housing coming out. We have a potential large zone to be added. We have spellcrafting that might be a thing. All of those things are far more important in my opinion.

redspecter23 · November 2016

No new classes are needed. New skills and skill trees? Sure. Not much point in adding a whole new class though. What would it accomplish that more skill trees wouldn't just do better? ZoS has trouble balancing the 4 they have. You want to add more variables to that mess?

Mojmir · November 2016

I like the comments "no fix bugs instead" lol, like that's even happening.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · November 2016

Can I ask an unrelated question?

How many CP do u have?
You had 8 VR16s. Plus beta player, you must be in the thousands.
Over 9000!?

Rune_Relic · November 2016

JD2013 wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

I disagree.

No new classes.

NO CLASSES period!!!

All skills for anyone!

Oh Divines that would just be terrible!

If certain skills were OP and not balanced.
Yes. Everyone would adopt the IWIN button and play FoTM until the next balance patch ad infinitum.
If you could load all options.
Then yes there would be no variety because everyone would use everything.

Balance the skills so that none give a clear advantage.
Limit the options so you must choose (not necessarily by class but function).
Then you have lots of unique and viable build options.

newtinmpls · November 2016

andreasranasen wrote: »

Maybe not new classes. But new skill lines. Everything in the game is getting so repetitive.

Only if you keep doing everything the same way.

Bossdonut · November 2016

I demand punchcat

magnusthorek · November 2016

First of all I have to say: Those edits for petition removal are pathetic! C'mon, consider ZOS top dogs hardly appear in the forums, this (and others) terms for a public forum shouldn't even exist! We can't speak this, we can't speak that... For a game rated +16 (+18 in some countries), if someone comes in here and gets offended with something written, they shouldn't be playing this game to start with. Loose your ties or you'll suffocate!

Phew!

Second, your non-petition petition is valid only on your PoV. It would be nice to have other classes? Of course it would! If, with all possible respect, there was someone competent leading the game system, mechanics or whatever it's called the "balancing".

Someday some class is not being very used, so it gets a humongous buff that also makes others looks like they were nerfed.

Or then just because Stamina was neglected several months ago it must receive severe buffs for four consecutive patches!

And the, everyone "connected" to the hot news re-roll everything from scratch, spend hours farming gear, speachless amount of not-easy-to-get cash upgrading them and more timing learning how to use the class the best way they can with a custom rotation.

Then le new patch appears changing something drastically again and this character somewhat recently made gets practically obsolete. Rinse and repeat!

Phew!

On top of all of this we get tons of useless cosmetic things being released while major bugs are still out there, latency issues previously isolated on PvP areas spreading to PvE, a pathetic dueling system that only serves to lag the gaming experience of thos NOT dueling because the amount of kids spamming skills in capital areas are at least 6x bigger now, the most stupid RNG system I've seen in my life, patches that fix one thing and breaks another which, as developer, scares the sh*t out of me.

Phew!

Instead of more badly planned classes:

- Give us jewelry crafting! If you code it right your job will be MINIMAL.
- Give us more purchasable bank slots
- Give us the ability to respec skills, attributes and CPs individually, charging us based on how many differences we made
- Improve the RNG. Filter these crazy loot tables!
- Let us have an option to hide all cosmetic stuff from other players. Let us see only those of our friends, guildmates and groups (individually)
- Think about those completionists and allow them complete what you made the to complete, be it easing out VMA (unlikely and probably unwanted, but a valid example) or collectibles, fishes and lorebooks.
- Anyway... Give us USABILITY. This is what REALLY matters!

Zamuro · November 2016

I have an idea ... why not add more skill lines and ultimates. Like, every weapon/class line has a choice of 2-3 ultimates, u pick whatever suits ur style and whatever u like. Skill line for melee fighting with staff etc etc

Junipus · November 2016

Lithlo wrote: »

Dear Zos -

JADED and FED UP does not even begin to cover it. So to be fair, lets start from the beginning.

After playing Beta, I remember pre-ordering the game I was so impressed. I remember creating my first character, a tank. I was hooked, captivated and delighted. I remember starting up the Storm Guides guild, probably the oldest international guild on the EU server. I remember meeting people and inviting them to my guild, because they were just as excited, and like me, could not wait to pay their subs. By the time I got to my 8th character, I was still loving the game, v16's all of them. (That's 128 Veteran levels of game play, not noob grinding, for those that don't know.).

So much changed. Vet levels got nuked through sheer apathy (I was one of thousands that thought that was a terrible idea, but no-one listened). Mechanics goal posts were shifted, rearranged, then shifted again. Still I paid my subs. I even spent crowns buying 2 more character slots, to build and play another 2 unsurprisingly familiar classes. Stam build this, magicka build that...blah blah blah. And this level 50 max-cap thing? I totally DO NOT FEEL like I am progressing anymore. You can grind to level 50 in like 2 days now, and that's what everyone is doing. The first question people ask my guild when they join, is 'how quickly can I max level. Gosh I remember the early days of people asking totally different questions - sad really, something has been lost.

3 years into the game, and we still have the same old 4 classes we had to start with. Zos, in your ambitious vision to promote the New ZosWorld Order of DLC variety and new content, you have missed the most obvious progression in the game that has been crying out for ages. Character classes. Shame on you folks! Shame!

Do you think we are absolute idiots to sell us 4 more character slots, that allow us to play the same classes again? We are sick and tired of fiddling and faffing our builds to get an inevitable Stam or Magicka build out of 4 classes. The 'Feed them Cake' (literally and figuratively) attitude has to go. Get real and at least indicate to the community that your heads are not shoved up that dark tunnel where even ogres are afraid to go?

How about alternate character classes like a druid as a healing type, with new spells and abilities. A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class. A paladin or berzerker to add spice to the DK class. A new thieving type, or even a hardcore assassin would be a nice change to a nightblade.

Hell, I would even pay crowns to own a new character class.

I remember paying subs. Now, not a chance in hell I am going to pay subs again until you, dear beloved Zos, wake up and remember .. us.

GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!

[Edit to remove mention of petition]

ColoursYouHave · November 2016

We don't demand anything, OP. You demand new classes, while I would prefer them to stick with the four classes they have, at least for now.

Lukums1 · November 2016

They have barely got the balancing right now... it's actually not TOO bad.

Could you imagine with a new OP class. Oh boy, no thanks.

Katahdin · November 2016

You dont speak for me.

I agree with the others that we don't need new classses

Slylok · November 2016

New skill lines. New weapons. Not classes.

old_mufasa · November 2016

I have to ask why do you people assume you have delete a character if they add a new class? Most MMORPGs give you at least 1 free character slot when they add a new class...

It's also very common to add a new class after a few years that a games been out... and those games that added those new class's were not destroyed by the addition of a new class....

So really what's the fear of adding a new class? afraid you can't handle it? or it will beat your current meta build? It seems really irrational to scream no new class's as if it's some zombie plague running at you.

Abeille · November 2016

old_mufasa wrote: »

I have to ask why do you people assume you have delete a character if they add a new class? Most MMORPGs give you at least 1 free character slot when they add a new class...

It's also very common to add a new class after a few years that a games been out... and those games that added those new class's were not destroyed by the addition of a new class....

So really what's the fear of adding a new class? afraid you can't handle it? or it will beat your current meta build? It seems really irrational to scream no new class's as if it's some zombie plague running at you.

About the deletion thing, ZOS would have to increase the limit if someone already have 12 characters. It is something that they could do.

People do not like new classes for different reasons. They feel that it will make balance even worse, they think the classes we have already cover everything we could want (they do not), they don't like the class system at all and would rather have new skills, they don't want to level a different character...

I for one want not a "new" class, but the old, scrapped Warden class to make a comeback. It had two skill lines that I wanted for two of my existing characters, and I would reroll if it was released (it would hurt to reload my Argonian, though, after all that fishing...).

TheShadowScout · November 2016

Lithlo wrote: »

GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!

No, please, don't.
I'd be really, really vexed if new classes showed up NOW... both for having to make another character to enjoy them after already having done twelve, the usual "each class in each armor weight" mix...
And moreso for the good old "Waaahhh, why wasn't this class around when I made my characters, it would have been so much better for that character background idea..."

And thus my vote for any "new class" ideas is the same its always is - don't just add classes, find a way to refit new classes to the existing system. Like, for example:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/240186/class-morph-idea/p1
(But of course I would post that, again, what else would you expect?

)

gel214thb14_ESO wrote: »

I actually think the classes are fine. I'd like more content, maybe a Global Store System to make guild stores make sense to the average player.

Perhaps different weapons? A Polearm...crossbows...

Maybe a new Class Powerset for each Class instead of brand new classes.

Oh, I definitely agree... but then, I would, would I not?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259011/additional-weapon-skill-ideas/p1

And while we are at it... more guilds would also be a nifty thing. Scholars Guild! Bards Guild! Bounty Hunters Guild! Whatever... be it mere passive lines or guild lines with skills, I realyl hope that the future will bring us more guild-themed DLCs. I would especialyl adore it if there were some "Either-Or" guilds, like... join the assassins OR the Bards, but never both... join the Thieves OR the Bounty Hunters, but never both... etc.; so people have to make choices... (and of course for those who regret their choices, a "guild retirement scroll" in the crown store, which would void their guild membership and return all those skill points...)

Aquanova · November 2016

New skill lines would be more interesting to me. Also, look how long it took for class balancing to be implemented and it's up for debate whether or not it was achieved or even possible.

Skill lines seems to be the best idea for new character content and maybe some new races.

Malamar1229 · November 2016

The entitlement is strong with this one.

how bout we fix the current before introducing more

ParaNostram · November 2016

Soul Shriven speaking for a "we". Nah... Unless it's necromancy based, please no character classes. Also, I would rather Necromancy be just a world skill anyways.

No new classes, balance nightmare.

RebornV3x · November 2016

Speak for ur self OP they can't even balance the classes they have and you want to add another class to this horrible mix I mean I want to watch the world burn for sure but holy crap adding another class is overkill that's like trying to put out a fire with gas it would completely rek this game.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO · November 2016

I agree with Lithlo, new classes would be most welcome. I have played since beta's and am starting to really get tired of the same classes. We need a bigger variety. We need progression in the game, right now there is none.