New character classes after 3 years of stagnation

IrishGirlGamer · November 2016

Majic wrote: »

Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:

"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"

Then you use the Majic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...

"NOW!!!"

Okay, I have to try this:

ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me cookies!

"NOW!!!"

So .... what? Now I just wait?

SHADOW2KK · November 2016

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

Majic wrote: »

Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:

"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"

Then you use the Majic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...

"NOW!!!"

Okay, I have to try this:

ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me cookies!

"NOW!!!"

So .... what? Now I just wait?

Aye you will get them, cue drum roll........soooon

AlnilamE · November 2016

Soafee wrote: »

While i'm still new to the game I completely agree with this. Even if you make a alt it all feels the same because anyone can use anything. I shouldn't be getting bored this quickly, but it is what it is. So many replies on here don't even make any sense.. Why wouldn't you want them to bring more to the game? They need to offer people more to keep people playing. It seems so many of you want this game to fail or something.

And how would a new class change that? If you are already bored and you don't have two of each class (1 stam and 1 mag), then how would adding a new class change that?

Meanwhile, myself and others here have been playing since launch and we are not bored with what we currently have. I'm actually working on what I want my characters to be that I just recently leveled.

Majic · November 2016

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

So .... what? Now I just wait?

No, we must never be kept waiting.

Established protocol requires that we badger ZOS ceaselessly by the hour until our demands are met.

Popular badgering phrases include...

"We are not amused."
"Don't make me uninstall again!"
"I'm going to hold my breath until you give me what I want!"
"Game X already has this, which is why it's so much better than ESO."
"Is it done yet?"
"PUNY MORTALS, YOUR END IS NEAR!"

Of course, radical changes to game design do require time to complete, so please be reasonable and allow 2-4 hours for the designers to comply.

Teridaxus · November 2016

Who is we?
This game is so unbalanced right now, putting a 5th class would only break it even more.

[Deleted User] · November 2016

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

Majic wrote: »

Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:

"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"

Then you use the Majic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...

"NOW!!!"

Okay, I have to try this:

ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me cookies!

"NOW!!!"

So .... what? Now I just wait?

Tryxus · November 2016

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

Majic wrote: »

Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:

"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"

Then you use the Majic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...

"NOW!!!"

Okay, I have to try this:

ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me cookies!

"NOW!!!"

So .... what? Now I just wait?

Coming soon: Cookie class

Skill line 1: Chocolate Chip
Skill line 2: Cream
Skill Line 3: Oreo

OdinForge · November 2016

You demand new classes.

I would settle for a fixed and balanced game.

Alucardo · November 2016

"We"? Damn, I guess I missed the community meeting where we all agreed to demand new classes. Oh snap. No thanks, don't need new classes.

Ghettokid · November 2016

Lithlo wrote: »

A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class.

Orc
~Triggerd

NewBlacksmurf · November 2016

I'm holding the opinion that we don't "need" any more classes.

I also feel that ZOS strongly considered adding spell crafting so it seems if there are changes it's going to be around spells and abilities in addition to the base classes.

Not sure how other classes would actually fit in as they'd be a hybrid of this and that as there isn't anything missing in total

Alpharos7 · November 2016

No, just no. The existing classes need alot of tinkering as it is, and adding another would only make the balancing worse.

Sovjet · November 2016

By the nine divines that would mean a oblivion crisis

SnubbS · November 2016

They actually edited to remove the mention of a petition? Didn't the ***'s do something similar?

jk #plsnoban.

ThePaleItalian · November 2016

Remember s

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

Majic wrote: »

Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:

"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"

Then you use the Majic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...

"NOW!!!"

Okay, I have to try this:

ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me cookies!

"NOW!!!"

So .... what? Now I just wait?

*slow claps*

Kudos

TheTwistedRune · November 2016

Alpharos7 wrote: »

No, just no. The existing classes need alot of tinkering as it is, and adding another would only make the balancing worse.

I have said it before and I will say it again. If the classes are not balanced after 3 YEARS they are never going to be. Why should that be a barrier to prevent new content being added?

I for one am all for new classes or skill lines. Diablo 3 has just got the necromancer after apparent in depth research into what the community wants. Maybe ZOS should follow suit. Because nobody here has the right to speak for the ESO community be it for or against new classes.

Tandor · November 2016

Anyone who thinks there are only four classes in this game doesn't understand builds.

gel214thb14_ESO · November 2016

I actually think the classes are fine. I'd like more content, maybe a Global Store System to make guild stores make sense to the average player.

Perhaps different weapons? A Polearm...crossbows...

Maybe a new Class Powerset for each Class instead of brand new classes.

Woeler · November 2016

I demand no new classes until the game is fully balanced. Bye.

Sinolai · November 2016

Instead of adding more classes I think they should get rid of classes.

david_m_18b16_ESO · November 2016

Nop. Actualy I don't even understand why we have character class.

The only reason I see to implent a new class is if it would had a completly different resource system.

Like energy or maybe CD based/proc based anything.

The current system is just weird. Most class combo is just the same skill everyone share with 1-2 class skill.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · November 2016

I DEMAND LESS CAPS LOCK!

david_m_18b16_ESO · November 2016

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

Lithlo wrote: »

Dear Zos -

JADED and FED UP does not even begin to cover it. So to be fair, lets start from the beginning.

After playing Beta, I remember pre-ordering the game I was so impressed. I remember creating my first character, a tank. I was hooked, captivated and delighted. I remember starting up the Storm Guides guild, probably the oldest international guild on the EU server. I remember meeting people and inviting them to my guild, because they were just as excited, and like me, could not wait to pay their subs. By the time I got to my 8th character, I was still loving the game, v16's all of them. (That's 128 Veteran levels of game play, not noob grinding, for those that don't know.).

So much changed. Vet levels got nuked through sheer apathy (I was one of thousands that thought that was a terrible idea, but no-one listened). Mechanics goal posts were shifted, rearranged, then shifted again. Still I paid my subs. I even spent crowns buying 2 more character slots, to build and play another 2 unsurprisingly familiar classes. Stam build this, magicka build that...blah blah blah. And this level 50 max-cap thing? I totally DO NOT FEEL like I am progressing anymore. You can grind to level 50 in like 2 days now, and that's what everyone is doing. The first question people ask my guild when they join, is 'how quickly can I max level. Gosh I remember the early days of people asking totally different questions - sad really, something has been lost.

3 years into the game, and we still have the same old 4 classes we had to start with. Zos, in your ambitious vision to promote the New ZosWorld Order of DLC variety and new content, you have missed the most obvious progression in the game that has been crying out for ages. Character classes. Shame on you folks! Shame!

Do you think we are absolute idiots to sell us 4 more character slots, that allow us to play the same classes again? We are sick and tired of fiddling and faffing our builds to get an inevitable Stam or Magicka build out of 4 classes. The 'Feed them Cake' (literally and figuratively) attitude has to go. Get real and at least indicate to the community that your heads are not shoved up that dark tunnel where even ogres are afraid to go?

How about alternate character classes like a druid as a healing type, with new spells and abilities. A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class. A paladin or berzerker to add spice to the DK class. A new thieving type, or even a hardcore assassin would be a nice change to a nightblade.

Hell, I would even pay crowns to own a new character class.

I remember paying subs. Now, not a chance in hell I am going to pay subs again until you, dear beloved Zos, wake up and remember .. us.

GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!

[Edit to remove mention of petition]

Just wait for Camelot Unchained to be finished next year, it will launch with 30 classes and a Crafter only class

The problem I have with camelot MMO is the faction restriction.

In DAoC I wanted to play a skald and my brother a paladin. So one of us had to play a class he didn,t anjoyed because class are faction locked.

Its really not a good system for real friend to tag along and class re-roll sometimes mean to switch of faction.

Schemering · November 2016

i dont have any desire for new classes; id like to see more 4 man dungeons and more 1--2-4-6-12-x person trials preferably released every month or 2

KingRegis · November 2016

We do not need more classes we just need more class specific skill lines for example necromancy for a sorc

Paraflex · November 2016

Honestly if a new clas came out they would make it OP and the meta would shift so I don't like that...

They need to add content to this game if anything. End game users don't have much to grind for it seems....

Trials Vet hard mode? Elite players do this takes a lot of time

Vmsa ? Score runs are fun

PvP? You know elder procs online...higher PvP ranks are stagnant...oh ya lag lots of lag...

What were missing are things like

Infinate PvE dungeons -scales and gets harder
Infinate PvP dungeons -scales and gets harder
Battlegrounds -Instance based 15v15 or 30v30
Arena - Instanced based small fights
New PvP content expand IC
New trials even new modes would be nice

Ya this amazing this call housing where you sit inside it and make stuff!!? Amazing content and value this would bring to the game( I think it's cool but not content)

Majic · November 2016

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

Official ZOS Demand Procedure... CONFIRMED!

But seriously, I don't want or mean to razz the OP in a mean-spirited way, and am sympathetic to desiring changes to the game. There's plenty of room for improvement, and I'm not one to remain silent when I think so.

I do, however, believe a tone more along the lines of requests/suggestions tends to be more constructive than demands, and is more likely to gain support.

I like the idea of more classes, but know that's easier said than done. As just one example, the current system already contains so much variety outside of the class structures that it's already a nightmare to balance for PvE, let alone PvP. New classes would have to be designed to offer distinction without increasing balance complexity to even more unmanageable levels.

I think evolving away from a class-based system might well be better than more classes, but it's a paradigm that's firmly rooted in ESO, serves important purposes that can be taken for granted, and any potential benefits of a "classless society" would probably be outweighed by the conversion costs.

In general, a better avenue for increasing character variety would probably be to add to what already exists, which ZOS has already done with such things as weapon ultimates. It might even be possible to slip in a new class now and then in the framework of larger additions, but doing so would always have to be considered within an increasingly complex balancing context.

Anyway, sorry I don't have something more definitive to offer by way of feedback, hope my jests won't be taken the wrong way, and I most definitely don't want to discourage anyone from speaking their mind about the game.

After all, ZOS can't give us what we want if they don't know what we want.

Abeille · November 2016

Whoa, man...

And I thought I wanted the Warden class badly. Nothing compared to this folk here.

Lokryn · November 2016

I would rather have new skill lines.

Uriel_Nocturne · November 2016

Lithlo wrote: »

Dear Zos -

JADED and FED UP does not even begin to cover it. So to be fair, lets start from the beginning.

After playing Beta, I remember pre-ordering the game I was so impressed. I remember creating my first character, a tank. I was hooked, captivated and delighted. I remember starting up the Storm Guides guild, probably the oldest international guild on the EU server. I remember meeting people and inviting them to my guild, because they were just as excited, and like me, could not wait to pay their subs. By the time I got to my 8th character, I was still loving the game, v16's all of them. (That's 128 Veteran levels of game play, not noob grinding, for those that don't know.).

So much changed. Vet levels got nuked through sheer apathy (I was one of thousands that thought that was a terrible idea, but no-one listened). Mechanics goal posts were shifted, rearranged, then shifted again. Still I paid my subs. I even spent crowns buying 2 more character slots, to build and play another 2 unsurprisingly familiar classes. Stam build this, magicka build that...blah blah blah. And this level 50 max-cap thing? I totally DO NOT FEEL like I am progressing anymore. You can grind to level 50 in like 2 days now, and that's what everyone is doing. The first question people ask my guild when they join, is 'how quickly can I max level. Gosh I remember the early days of people asking totally different questions - sad really, something has been lost.

3 years into the game, and we still have the same old 4 classes we had to start with. Zos, in your ambitious vision to promote the New ZosWorld Order of DLC variety and new content, you have missed the most obvious progression in the game that has been crying out for ages. Character classes. Shame on you folks! Shame!

Do you think we are absolute idiots to sell us 4 more character slots, that allow us to play the same classes again? We are sick and tired of fiddling and faffing our builds to get an inevitable Stam or Magicka build out of 4 classes. The 'Feed them Cake' (literally and figuratively) attitude has to go. Get real and at least indicate to the community that your heads are not shoved up that dark tunnel where even ogres are afraid to go?

How about alternate character classes like a druid as a healing type, with new spells and abilities. A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class. A paladin or berzerker to add spice to the DK class. A new thieving type, or even a hardcore assassin would be a nice change to a nightblade.

Hell, I would even pay crowns to own a new character class.

I remember paying subs. Now, not a chance in hell I am going to pay subs again until you, dear beloved Zos, wake up and remember .. us.

GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!

[Edit to remove mention of petition]

Don't presume to speak for me.

I am not part of this "We" that you seem to think that you're the duly appointed representative of.

I personally do not care if we get new Character Classes or not.