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New character classes after 3 years of stagnation
Lithlo
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Dear Zos -
JADED and FED UP does not even begin to cover it. So to be fair, lets start from the beginning.
After playing Beta, I remember pre-ordering the game I was so impressed. I remember creating my first character, a tank. I was hooked, captivated and delighted. I remember starting up the Storm Guides guild, probably the oldest international guild on the EU server. I remember meeting people and inviting them to my guild, because they were just as excited, and like me, could not wait to pay their subs. By the time I got to my 8th character, I was still loving the game, v16's all of them. (That's 128 Veteran levels of game play, not noob grinding, for those that don't know.).
So much changed. Vet levels got nuked through sheer apathy (I was one of thousands that thought that was a terrible idea, but no-one listened). Mechanics goal posts were shifted, rearranged, then shifted again. Still I paid my subs. I even spent crowns buying 2 more character slots, to build and play another 2 unsurprisingly familiar classes. Stam build this, magicka build that...blah blah blah. And this level 50 max-cap thing? I totally DO NOT FEEL like I am progressing anymore. You can grind to level 50 in like 2 days now, and that's what everyone is doing. The first question people ask my guild when they join, is 'how quickly can I max level. Gosh I remember the early days of people asking totally different questions - sad really, something has been lost.
3 years into the game, and we still have the same old 4 classes we had to start with. Zos, in your ambitious vision to promote the New ZosWorld Order of DLC variety and new content, you have missed the most obvious progression in the game that has been crying out for ages. Character classes. Shame on you folks! Shame!
Do you think we are absolute idiots to sell us 4 more character slots, that allow us to play the same classes again? We are sick and tired of fiddling and faffing our builds to get an inevitable Stam or Magicka build out of 4 classes. The 'Feed them Cake' (literally and figuratively) attitude has to go. Get real and at least indicate to the community that your heads are not shoved up that dark tunnel where even ogres are afraid to go?
How about alternate character classes like a druid as a healing type, with new spells and abilities. A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class. A paladin or berzerker to add spice to the DK class. A new thieving type, or even a hardcore assassin would be a nice change to a nightblade.
Hell, I would even pay crowns to own a new character class.
I remember paying subs. Now, not a chance in hell I am going to pay subs again until you, dear beloved Zos, wake up and remember .. us.
GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!
[Edit to remove mention of petition]
Edited by [Deleted User] on November 10, 2016 2:08PM JADED and FED UP does not even begin to cover it. So to be fair, lets start from the beginning.
After playing Beta, I remember pre-ordering the game I was so impressed. I remember creating my first character, a tank. I was hooked, captivated and delighted. I remember starting up the Storm Guides guild, probably the oldest international guild on the EU server. I remember meeting people and inviting them to my guild, because they were just as excited, and like me, could not wait to pay their subs. By the time I got to my 8th character, I was still loving the game, v16's all of them. (That's 128 Veteran levels of game play, not noob grinding, for those that don't know.).
So much changed. Vet levels got nuked through sheer apathy (I was one of thousands that thought that was a terrible idea, but no-one listened). Mechanics goal posts were shifted, rearranged, then shifted again. Still I paid my subs. I even spent crowns buying 2 more character slots, to build and play another 2 unsurprisingly familiar classes. Stam build this, magicka build that...blah blah blah. And this level 50 max-cap thing? I totally DO NOT FEEL like I am progressing anymore. You can grind to level 50 in like 2 days now, and that's what everyone is doing. The first question people ask my guild when they join, is 'how quickly can I max level. Gosh I remember the early days of people asking totally different questions - sad really, something has been lost.
3 years into the game, and we still have the same old 4 classes we had to start with. Zos, in your ambitious vision to promote the New ZosWorld Order of DLC variety and new content, you have missed the most obvious progression in the game that has been crying out for ages. Character classes. Shame on you folks! Shame!
Do you think we are absolute idiots to sell us 4 more character slots, that allow us to play the same classes again? We are sick and tired of fiddling and faffing our builds to get an inevitable Stam or Magicka build out of 4 classes. The 'Feed them Cake' (literally and figuratively) attitude has to go. Get real and at least indicate to the community that your heads are not shoved up that dark tunnel where even ogres are afraid to go?
How about alternate character classes like a druid as a healing type, with new spells and abilities. A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class. A paladin or berzerker to add spice to the DK class. A new thieving type, or even a hardcore assassin would be a nice change to a nightblade.
Hell, I would even pay crowns to own a new character class.
I remember paying subs. Now, not a chance in hell I am going to pay subs again until you, dear beloved Zos, wake up and remember .. us.
GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!
[Edit to remove mention of petition]
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SickDuck✭✭✭✭✭No we don't. No need to shout.Holdviola - Khira'de Regalo - Lélekvadász - Used To Be An Adventurer - Zetor - Does-Not-Give-A-Duck - Lord Sugar - Tenar Arha - Da'rinka - Violent Moon - Extreme Runner45 -
JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Who's "we?"
Because you sure aren't demanding on my behalf.
New classes would be ok but I would rather have Spellcrafting, thanks
Sweetrolls for all!
Christophe Mottierre - Breton Templar with his own whole darn estate! Templar Houses are so 2015. EU DC
PC Beta Tester January 2014
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Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!32 -
UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't want to see more classes (partly because I'd need more character slots), and I'd much rather see new skill lines added that any class can get access to (like the guild skill lines)
[Edit to remove mention of petition]Edited by [Deleted User] on November 7, 2016 7:25PM
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp21 -
FLuFFyxMuFFiN✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't want to see more classes (partly because I'd need more character slots), and I'd much rather see new skill lines added that any class can get access to (like the guild skill lines)
Same. I don't wanna have to delete characters just to reroll a new classEdited by [Deleted User] on November 7, 2016 7:26PM6 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The last thing ESO needs right now is a new class.Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||7 -
IrishGirlGamer✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not a high priority for me, either. But spellcrafting ... yeah, that would be awesome.
Valar Morghulis.
Someday I'm going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull. Arya Stark
You're going to die tomorrow, Lord Bolton. Sleep well. Sansa Stark
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. Desmond Tutu6 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭#addwardenclass
[Edit to remove mention of petition]Edited by [Deleted User] on November 7, 2016 7:28PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1 -
alephthiago✭✭✭✭✭
But yeah 100% agree, im extremelly bored of the same 4 classes, skill lines and mechanics.
"You need to balance those 4 classes before adding new ones" doesnt cut it, its the poor excuse everyone who is afraid of new stuff gives.
[Edit to remove mention of petition]Edited by [Deleted User] on November 7, 2016 7:28PMWalks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
*** kitty AD Stamblade
Paarthurnax's Will AD Magicka DK
agnar cracked skull EP Magicka DK (veteran dragonstar arena bot)
Klogi Mugdul AD Stamina DK
Savre Selranni AD Magicka Sorc (being polished)
Avenar Lolhealing AD Magicka Templar (being polished)7 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I disagree.
No new classes.
NO CLASSES period!!!
All skills for anyone!Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis8 -
JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »I disagree.
No new classes.
NO CLASSES period!!!
All skills for anyone!
Oh Divines that would just be terrible!Sweetrolls for all!
Christophe Mottierre - Breton Templar with his own whole darn estate! Templar Houses are so 2015. EU DC
PC Beta Tester January 2014
Elder of The Black
Order of Sithis
The Runners
@TamrielTraverse - For Tamriel related Twitter shenanigans!
https://tamrieltraveller.wordpress.com/
Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!8 -
Xrucible✭✭✭You must be an expert in all the variations for the current classes.. I'm impressed OP..On a long break from ESO.0 -
Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You have made ONE post on the forums and it happens to be a rant on what "WE" DEMAND?
You do not speak for me, and frankly, you don't speak for the community either.
NOT signed by me as there are far better options out there than just adding more classes and creating a LARGER imbalance in the game.9 -
nine9six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Rather bugfixes before ANYTHING else.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...3 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭i dont want new classes.
thanks anyway.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."2 -
Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »I don't want to see more classes (partly because I'd need more character slots), and I'd much rather see new skill lines added that any class can get access to (like the guild skill lines)
Same. I don't wanna have to delete characters just to reroll a new class
Same here. No more classes please, I'm attached to my existing characters.PC-EU1 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I really have zero interest in learning a new class, learning to counter a new class, or dealing with all-new balance issues of a new class.
Some times, more isn't better. I'd rather see what we have refined and improved than time be spent on just giving us more.
I guess I just don't get how new classes would improve my experience, and I can actually see how they might detract from it."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
andreasranasen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Maybe not new classes. But new skill lines. Everything in the game is getting so repetitive.#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
- Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
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Soafee✭✭✭While i'm still new to the game I completely agree with this. Even if you make a alt it all feels the same because anyone can use anything. I shouldn't be getting bored this quickly, but it is what it is. So many replies on here don't even make any sense.. Why wouldn't you want them to bring more to the game? They need to offer people more to keep people playing. It seems so many of you want this game to fail or something.Edited by Soafee on November 7, 2016 7:52PMToday is a blessing. Yesterday is in the past and tomorrow is a mystery.2 -
Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Dear Zos -
JADED and FED UP does not even begin to cover it. So to be fair, lets start from the beginning.
After playing Beta, I remember pre-ordering the game I was so impressed. I remember creating my first character, a tank. I was hooked, captivated and delighted. I remember starting up the Storm Guides guild, probably the oldest international guild on the EU server. I remember meeting people and inviting them to my guild, because they were just as excited, and like me, could not wait to pay their subs. By the time I got to my 8th character, I was still loving the game, v16's all of them. (That's 128 Veteran levels of game play, not noob grinding, for those that don't know.).
So much changed. Vet levels got nuked through sheer apathy (I was one of thousands that thought that was a terrible idea, but no-one listened). Mechanics goal posts were shifted, rearranged, then shifted again. Still I paid my subs. I even spent crowns buying 2 more character slots, to build and play another 2 unsurprisingly familiar classes. Stam build this, magicka build that...blah blah blah. And this level 50 max-cap thing? I totally DO NOT FEEL like I am progressing anymore. You can grind to level 50 in like 2 days now, and that's what everyone is doing. The first question people ask my guild when they join, is 'how quickly can I max level. Gosh I remember the early days of people asking totally different questions - sad really, something has been lost.
3 years into the game, and we still have the same old 4 classes we had to start with. Zos, in your ambitious vision to promote the New ZosWorld Order of DLC variety and new content, you have missed the most obvious progression in the game that has been crying out for ages. Character classes. Shame on you folks! Shame!
Do you think we are absolute idiots to sell us 4 more character slots, that allow us to play the same classes again? We are sick and tired of fiddling and faffing our builds to get an inevitable Stam or Magicka build out of 4 classes. The 'Feed them Cake' (literally and figuratively) attitude has to go. Get real and at least indicate to the community that your heads are not shoved up that dark tunnel where even ogres are afraid to go?
How about alternate character classes like a druid as a healing type, with new spells and abilities. A dark necromancer or magician to balance the Sorc class. A paladin or berzerker to add spice to the DK class. A new thieving type, or even a hardcore assassin would be a nice change to a nightblade.
Hell, I would even pay crowns to own a new character class.
I remember paying subs. Now, not a chance in hell I am going to pay subs again until you, dear beloved Zos, wake up and remember .. us.
GIVE US MORE CLASSES PLEASE!
[Edit to remove mention of petition]
Just wait for Camelot Unchained to be finished next year, it will launch with 30 classes and a Crafter only class3 -
DHale✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have played 2 years 7 months I don't want any new classes. Until they fix the first 4. Nuff said.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.2 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭new class nah ill take a pass on this one. it would take 3 years before they could begin to balance it and would break more than fixed0 -
SHADOW2KK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Um whose we OP?
Speak for yourself, some of us are still waiting for them to balance as much as possible the existing classes, and you want more?Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.
Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..
Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)
Guild Master of The Bringers Of The Storm.
Harrods
Member Of The Old Guard
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Been playing since Beta and Early Access0 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So it's been over two years and if we were playing any other game we might be seeing that sort of thing, but not here. We haven't even had an expansion for existing characters yet. They have changed the functionality or replaced some skills but they haven't been expanded. Truth is we still haven't overcome beta in many cases. For example combat was smoother in beta than it is now. I think you need to give this game a handicap of about 4-5 years in comparing it with a time table of expectations for other games.Retired.
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I wouldn't mind a few new classes, especially without the "magic" abilities. However, I think ESO would be better served by new skill lines that are available to anyone.4 -
Majic✭✭✭✭✭Oh please. The proper format for demands such as these is as follows:
"ZeniMax Online Studios, I COMMAND you to give me ______!"
Then you use the Magic Word. For reference, the Magic Word is...
"NOW!!!"
Edited by Majic on November 7, 2016 8:08PMEpopt Of The Everspinning Logo, Church Of The Eternal Loading Screen
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