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Suggestion: Dual Wield Abilities for Magicka Builds
WuffyCerulei
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For a good long while, stamina builds have and are the top DPS builds for ESO. With One Tamriel, most armor build-friendly sets are made for stamina builds, i.e. Automaton, Hulking Draugr, etc. Stam builds also have a larger selection of weapons to use for DPS, while magicka builds are mostly stuck to destruction staves, which limits their options.
I have a suggestion that would benefit the magicka DPS: have dual wield damage and abilities scale off either max magicka or max stamina, whichever one is higher. Higher magicka would mean the abilities deal magic damage, and higher stamina would deal physical. The passives would impact spell damage, spell resistance, and spell critical ratings if magicka is higher, and vice versa with stamina. This way, magicka builds have more variety with DPS than destruction staves.
I have a suggestion that would benefit the magicka DPS: have dual wield damage and abilities scale off either max magicka or max stamina, whichever one is higher. Higher magicka would mean the abilities deal magic damage, and higher stamina would deal physical. The passives would impact spell damage, spell resistance, and spell critical ratings if magicka is higher, and vice versa with stamina. This way, magicka builds have more variety with DPS than destruction staves.
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✭✭✭✭✭Since the Character model almost always holds their Staff in one hand anyway, there's no reason why we can't hold a staff in both hands at once.
Solution? Put another Staff in that empty hand of ours.
Conclusion? Dual wielding Staves.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭Not really, currently magicka rules over PvE in a very big way. The current highest DPS is magicka.3 -
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✭✭✭✭Since the Character model almost always holds their Staff in one hand anyway, there's no reason why we can't hold a staff in both hands at once.
Solution? Put another Staff in that empty hand of ours.
Conclusion? Dual wielding Staves.
Just like Skyrim:
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✭✭✭✭Not really, currently magicka rules over PvE in a very big way. The current highest DPS is magicka.
I've personally gotten better DPS from stamina builds than magicka builds."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »
What stamina spec do you use? What's your average DPS on every single vMoL boss, including Rakkhat HM? What's your DPS on Warrior HM using a stamina build? Mage HM? What's your overall DPS on vMoL trash packs on average? On vAA first boss? What scores do you get on your dedicated trial guild(s)?
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✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »
the difference we have on vet trial etc when very exp group prefem magic dps as not mch worse than stamina and is on range with safe rande from boss while melee stam is more dangerous to die in mostly boss specjal attacks
for 1st bow should be removed to be viable range dps for stam in pve because for now dps with bow is insta kick with exp player, we have no worse dps than bow, bow now is only for utilyty, dots etc, main dps from bow is comparable to spamming flying blade dps from range > nothing good to do0 -
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@Siphoneer
https://youtu.be/182BL1wwpoA
Most difficult fight in the game.
No stamina DD gets that.
Also to cross 50k DPS, stamina needs 4 support sets (IA, NMG, Sunderflame, Alkosh). Magicka needs only 2.0 -
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@Siphoneerhttps://youtu.be/182BL1wwpoA
Most difficult fight in the game.
No stamina DD gets that.
Also to cross 50k DPS, stamina needs 4 support sets (IA, NMG, Sunderflame, Alkosh). Magicka needs only 2.
The other Magicka classes can't pull that though
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✭✭✭✭✭psychotic13 wrote: »
@Siphoneerhttps://youtu.be/182BL1wwpoA
Most difficult fight in the game.
No stamina DD gets that.
Also to cross 50k DPS, stamina needs 4 support sets (IA, NMG, Sunderflame, Alkosh). Magicka needs only 2.
The other Magicka classes can't pull that though
@psychotic13
Magicka DK are currently the highest DPS in terms of magicka in most single target fights.
Magicka Sorc clocks around 51k and enjoys the highest burst and range.
Magicka Nightblade needs a buff. I find it ridiculous that a class is forced to drop their class spammable to use a weapon spammable that it is average at best.4 -
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@Siphoneerhttps://youtu.be/182BL1wwpoA
Most difficult fight in the game.
No stamina DD gets that.
Also to cross 50k DPS, stamina needs 4 support sets (IA, NMG, Sunderflame, Alkosh). Magicka needs only 2.
The other Magicka classes can't pull that though
@psychotic13
Magicka DK are currently the highest DPS in terms of magicka in most single target fights.
Magicka Sorc clocks around 51k and enjoys the highest burst and range.
Magicka Nightblade needs a buff. I find it ridiculous that a class is forced to drop their class spammable to use a weapon spammable that it is average at best.
It would be silly for a spammable skill that puts out alot of healing to out dps other spams.
That aside, force pulse can hit for over 30K in raids and has a small aoe component, the only spams that hit harder are melee. Not to mention that sorcerers don't have a class spam at all so it can always be worse.
I do agree that magicka nb can use a slight damage buff, but not to its abilities that also heal, you need to sacrifice damage for off healsMechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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The top 3 raid teams in the game are exclusively magicka. Every serious trial team is almost all magicka. Only pugs think stamina is op for pve, all they have is single target dpsMechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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✭Double staff looks stupid, maybe some kind of handheld icon or wand. I love the offhand witch doctor items in D3 I'd love something that looked similar.0 -
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@Siphoneerhttps://youtu.be/182BL1wwpoA
Most difficult fight in the game.
No stamina DD gets that.
Also to cross 50k DPS, stamina needs 4 support sets (IA, NMG, Sunderflame, Alkosh). Magicka needs only 2.
Thats a templar, the only class that comes close to stam builds0
