Changes to magicka in next update

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What do we know till far?

We know they will dedicate some balance they said and also magicka DK will get some love.

But what else?

Personally I hate to break faces with my NB and then feel the weakness of my other magicka characters.

Personally I have no interest in any class or in magicka or stamina, because i always liked the things that are fair for everyone.

What else more information we know?
  • thankyourat
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP
  • Strider_Roshin
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.
  • arkansas_ESO
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    Magic DK buffs are all that's confirmed AFAIK


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  • Waseem
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    a new set bonus with debuff to spell resist we need!!
    same as sunderflame/ night mother gaze for stamina
    Night Mother's Gaze Set

    LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

    (2 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical

    (3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

    (4 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical

    (5 items) Critical attacks also reduce the target's Physical Resistance by 2580 for 6 seconds.


    Sunderflame Set

    LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

    (2 items) Adds 967 Max Stamina

    (3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

    (4 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical

    (5 items) When you hit an enemy with a fully charged Heavy Attack, deal 774 Flame Damage and reduce target’s Armor by 3440 for 8 seconds.

    Roar of Alkosh Set

    LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

    (2 Items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical

    (3 Items) Gain Minor Slayer at all times, increasing your damage done to Dungeon and Trial Monsters by 5%.

    (4 Items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

    (5 Items) When you activate a synergy, you send a shockwave from your position that deals 1720 Physical Damage and an additional 12040 Physical Damage over 10 seconds. Reduces the Physical and Spell Resistance of any enemy hit by 3010 for 10 seconds.
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    Edited by Waseem on November 6, 2016 6:49PM
  • Tryxus
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not just PvP :p
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  • thankyourat
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?
  • Strider_Roshin
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.
    Edited by Strider_Roshin on November 6, 2016 7:37PM
  • WillhelmBlack
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    If you think Magicka Templars are gods now, just you wait!

    Then they'll have to buff stamina again because stamina always has to be more powerful. Instead they could just remove the procs from PvP, buff shields to 12 seconds, lower physical damage, nerf destro ulti and we would have some sort of balance if the devs crushed a few bugs...but that's too easy.
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  • thankyourat
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.
  • leepalmer95
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Magblade are the only mag class that can get near 3k spell dmg with like 52k magicka.

    Also assassins will procs are op.
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  • Birdovic
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    Hi, its me again.
    Just want to mention the Mag Sorc quickly, It deserves a buff reworking and a very close look at lots of underwhelming abilities, passive and active. :weary:
    Edited by Birdovic on November 6, 2016 9:02PM
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    Birdovic wrote: »
    Hi, its me again.
    Just want to mention the Mag Sorc quickly, It deserves a buff reworking and a very close look at lots of underwhelming abilities, passive and active. :weary:

    Only thing wrong with a mag sorc is that shields need to be 10/12 seconds..
    Edited by leepalmer95 on November 6, 2016 9:11PM
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  • Ghettokid
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    I hope stamina gets buff soon, cause magicka is so OP atm.

    Also proc-sets and black rose should get buffed.
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    I hope mnb is ignored and even less people play the class as payback for all those times I got bomb ganked in the sewers muahahaha.
  • thankyourat
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Magblade are the only mag class that can get near 3k spell dmg with like 52k magicka.

    Also assassins will procs are op.

    Magsorc as well. I have 55k magicka and 2900 sd on the build I'm running right now and it still hits like a wet noodle. Fully buffed I was hitting a dk yesterday for 2600 swallow souls non crit and 3800 on crits. The damage is just not there you basically need to combo meteor with assains will to kill anyone or soul tether on lighter targets. There are too many times as a magblade were you will outplay someone but you just don't have the damage to kill them. But I don't think magblade is bad I actually think the class is good. I think the other classes are just better. Well mag dk can use love too. Assassins will needs to be looked at. mine will sometimes miss for know reason. It'll fire than just disappear
    Edited by thankyourat on November 6, 2016 9:33PM
  • fastolfv_ESO
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    they dont need to buff magika, they need to bring stam back down to reasonable lvls otherwise the power creep will just mess with the game even more
  • Birdovic
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    they dont need to buff magika, they need to bring stam back down to reasonable lvls otherwise the power creep will just mess with the game even more

    I can support that.
  • Silver_Strider
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    All this hype for some hunnyed words from someone that balances things with bandaids and hammers.

    I'd rather take those words with enough salt to defrost my driveway than hype them up to something they might not be.

    #rayofsunshine
    Edited by Silver_Strider on November 6, 2016 9:57PM
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  • LegacyDM
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Magblade are the only mag class that can get near 3k spell dmg with like 52k magicka.

    Also assassins will procs are op.

    Lol. Not like to set up assassins will isn't clunky as hell. Not like all that effort to activate skill, do 4 light attacks and activate skill again just to have it blocked, dodged, or reflected. In the time it takes to get it off more damage could be done using a more reliable skill. I think nb is only class that has such a skill that requires extreme micromanagement for such a lousy payoff.

    As for 52k magicka. Getting 52k magicka requires serious sacrifice to regen. If your goal is to Max mana pools Your better off going with sorc which has better burst and sustain.
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  • leepalmer95
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Magblade are the only mag class that can get near 3k spell dmg with like 52k magicka.

    Also assassins will procs are op.

    Lol. Not like to set up assassins will isn't clunky as hell. Not like all that effort to activate skill, do 4 light attacks and activate skill again just to have it blocked, dodged, or reflected. In the time it takes to get it off more damage could be done using a more reliable skill. I think nb is only class that has such a skill that requires extreme micromanagement for such a lousy payoff.

    As for 52k magicka. Getting 52k magicka requires serious sacrifice to regen. If your goal is to Max mana pools Your better off going with sorc which has better burst and sustain.

    No it doesn't, it's not hard to get 50k+ magicka and sustain just fine...

    It's not too hard to activate, any light attacks on any bar, you can medium weave a resto to make sure it hits 100% of the time.

    The problem with blocking/dodging or reflected is on you, ofc you cc them before you use it, thats the blocked gone, the reflected if your own timing and the only way it can be dodged if via shuffle/double take.

    Also siphoning attacks > all sorc sustain.
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  • LegacyDM
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    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Agree with everything you say except 1. Have you ever encountered a Magdk in pvp 1v1? Their flame lash hits crazy hard. Their skills get to double dip cp. When they lock you in talons and petrify while whipping you with skoria proccing its gg. In pvp, Magdk need less of a buff than people think.
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  • leepalmer95
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Agree with everything you say except 1. Have you ever encountered a Magdk in pvp 1v1? Their flame lash hits crazy hard. Their skills get to double dip cp. When they lock you in talons and petrify while whipping you with skoria proccing its gg. In pvp, Magdk need less of a buff than people think.

    Because the game is balanced in 1v1, you've likely ran into a duel build which is just free ap in open world.

    The whole 'double dip' cp thing, you know you can double dip cp for defence as well?
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • LegacyDM
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Magblade are the only mag class that can get near 3k spell dmg with like 52k magicka.

    Also assassins will procs are op.

    Lol. Not like to set up assassins will isn't clunky as hell. Not like all that effort to activate skill, do 4 light attacks and activate skill again just to have it blocked, dodged, or reflected. In the time it takes to get it off more damage could be done using a more reliable skill. I think nb is only class that has such a skill that requires extreme micromanagement for such a lousy payoff.

    As for 52k magicka. Getting 52k magicka requires serious sacrifice to regen. If your goal is to Max mana pools Your better off going with sorc which has better burst and sustain.

    No it doesn't, it's not hard to get 50k+ magicka and sustain just fine...

    It's not too hard to activate, any light attacks on any bar, you can medium weave a resto to make sure it hits 100% of the time.

    The problem with blocking/dodging or reflected is on you, ofc you cc them before you use it, thats the blocked gone, the reflected if your own timing and the only way it can be dodged if via shuffle/double take.

    Also siphoning attacks > all sorc sustain.

    Ok so listen to what u just said. U have to weave a resto staff to make this reliable. A fricken resto staff.

    O yeah timing an attack that requires activate, 4 la, activate with the timing of fear/stun isn't just extremely unreliable it's clunky and not fun. You make it sound easy like its a cake walk. News flash, opponent isn't going to let you do this and success rate is low.

    Are you saying a mageblade has better burst than a sorc?
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  • leepalmer95
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Magblade are the only mag class that can get near 3k spell dmg with like 52k magicka.

    Also assassins will procs are op.

    Lol. Not like to set up assassins will isn't clunky as hell. Not like all that effort to activate skill, do 4 light attacks and activate skill again just to have it blocked, dodged, or reflected. In the time it takes to get it off more damage could be done using a more reliable skill. I think nb is only class that has such a skill that requires extreme micromanagement for such a lousy payoff.

    As for 52k magicka. Getting 52k magicka requires serious sacrifice to regen. If your goal is to Max mana pools Your better off going with sorc which has better burst and sustain.

    No it doesn't, it's not hard to get 50k+ magicka and sustain just fine...

    It's not too hard to activate, any light attacks on any bar, you can medium weave a resto to make sure it hits 100% of the time.

    The problem with blocking/dodging or reflected is on you, ofc you cc them before you use it, thats the blocked gone, the reflected if your own timing and the only way it can be dodged if via shuffle/double take.

    Also siphoning attacks > all sorc sustain.

    Ok so listen to what u just said. U have to weave a resto staff to make this reliable. A fricken resto staff.

    O yeah timing an attack that requires activate, 4 la, activate with the timing of fear/stun isn't just extremely unreliable it's clunky and not fun. You make it sound easy like its a cake walk. News flash, opponent isn't going to let you do this and success rate is low.

    Are you saying a mageblade has better burst than a sorc?

    Yes. A meteor + fear + will proc is the biggest burst in the game.

    Your making it sound really hard and it really isn't. It's not hard to just light attack between everything.

    Your acting as if mag classes dont use resto, every sorc does, every mag nb does, most dk's, only a templar doesn't...
    Your acting as if they go out their way to slot it, they have always used resto's.
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  • LegacyDM
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Agree with everything you say except 1. Have you ever encountered a Magdk in pvp 1v1? Their flame lash hits crazy hard. Their skills get to double dip cp. When they lock you in talons and petrify while whipping you with skoria proccing its gg. In pvp, Magdk need less of a buff than people think.

    Because the game is balanced in 1v1, you've likely ran into a duel build which is just free ap in open world.

    The whole 'double dip' cp thing, you know you can double dip cp for defence as well?

    Sorry bud but every Magdk is running this build and is extremely effective in open world. What's your hang up with mageblades? Everyone knows they are on the bottom. Bottom of trials dps and bottom of pvp dps. What's your deal? Did you get powned by me or something?
    Edited by LegacyDM on November 6, 2016 10:53PM
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  • MaxwellC
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    I hope they fix Dragon's blood, maybe finally making green db give stamina back overtime and coag give doubled healing over time. I also want them to make it so standard of might is 200 and shifting is 150 but also increase it's diameter or something. I want Flames of Oblivion to make a return but only if it scales to max resource :). Cauterize I think should be a heal stolen type of ability where it creates a pool that heals you and steals health from enemies who are in it.
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  • leepalmer95
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    I hope they buff my magblade. It needs some love in PvP

    Not even a little.

    I would be fine with them nerfing all the classes to magblade level as well, but right now magblades are struggling. If they don't do something there won't be any left. Are you saying magblades are fine?

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

    Do you play magblade? I don't think you have spent much time playing magblade. Unless you think those crazy 4k swallow soul crits are op. Or the fact that all your burst is reliant on a ultimate that cost 200 ult. I don't understand where you are coming from. They lack burst damage unless you play melee but then you lack sustain damage. Every class hits harder than magblade except mag dk. You can be survivable but it's no more than any other class. As it is right now magblade is just a weaker magsorc. Or if melee a weaker stamina character.

    Agree with everything you say except 1. Have you ever encountered a Magdk in pvp 1v1? Their flame lash hits crazy hard. Their skills get to double dip cp. When they lock you in talons and petrify while whipping you with skoria proccing its gg. In pvp, Magdk need less of a buff than people think.

    Because the game is balanced in 1v1, you've likely ran into a duel build which is just free ap in open world.

    The whole 'double dip' cp thing, you know you can double dip cp for defence as well?

    Sorry bud but every Magdk is running this build and is extremely effective in open world. What's your hang up with mageblades? Everyone knows they are on the bottom. Bottom of trials dps and bottom of pvp dps. What's your deal? Did you get powned by me or something?

    No i literally have no idea who you are, it's just annoying when people spread misinformation.

    Your saying that because mag dk is strong in 1v1 which are usually dw/light armor builds that they dont need a buff.

    Now try running around solo with a dw/light armor build open world and suddenly it doesn't matter if you can deal ok dmg, your getting 1 hit by proc builds.

    Mag dk's/ nb's are around the same open world.
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  • chaserstorm16909
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    I hope stamina gets buff soon, cause magicka is so OP atm.

    Also proc-sets and black rose should get buffed.

    Careful, Wrobel might listen to your advice.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Mag blade are all about play style. They are very strong imo. Lol spamming swallow soul?

    If you're stacking magicka to 50k, use light attack weaves with destro and do

    La ss/ la cripple/ la lotus or agony / la fear or crushing shock / assassins will / execute. Good combo considering you rooted and stunned. If they survive and you they get close just port to your shade start over.
  • leepalmer95
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    Mag blade are all about play style. They are very strong imo. Lol spamming swallow soul?

    If you're stacking magicka to 50k, use light attack weaves with destro and do

    La ss/ la cripple/ la lotus or agony / la fear or crushing shock / assassins will / execute. Good combo considering you rooted and stunned. If they survive and you they get close just port to your shade start over.

    Or just make sure dots are on them then fear + meteor + will,

    Managed to get a 20k meteor tooltip with a 26k will tooltip.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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