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Soul Tether Vs. Devouring Swarm
Siphoneer
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Which is best for a Magblade?
Which gives the best heal and best damage?
Which is best overall in your opinion?
Edited by Siphoneer on November 5, 2016 10:53AM Which gives the best heal and best damage?
Which is best overall in your opinion?
Soul Tether Vs. Devouring Swarm 20 votes
Devouring Swarm
25%
5 votes
Soul Tether
60%
12 votes
Neither
15%
3 votes
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ostrapz✭✭✭Really depends on what kind of build your running. Generally speaking tether burst is better but swarm is better heals and does more overall damage I think. If you run proxy or vicious I'd pick tether. Otherwise Id go with batsEdited by ostrapz on November 5, 2016 1:38PMXbox 1 NA
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Devouring SwarmWhich is best for a Magblade?
Which gives the best heal and best damage?
Which is best overall in your opinion?
if you are NB vamp, then why not using dev swarm, considering you can slot siph skills and swallow soul to get extra healing and that you can cloak while in the swarm
if you are not vamp, then soul tether or destro ultiSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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kadar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would think of it as a burst (Tether) vs. sustained dmg (Bats) choice, personally. They both have insane healing if you're around multiple targets.0 -
LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭Devouring SwarmI prefer bats but that doesn't make it better. What I find is soul tethered is telegraphed enough that people just block through it and the heal isn't as good as devouring. Bats with sap essence is a deadly combo but I find that because it's sustained people move out of range and bats with sap doesn't do enough damage to kill people unless they are potatoes. You can couple proxy, sap, and bats together but people are so Tanky these days, again they just block, or move out of range. The best time to pop bats and sap is when you have a Zerg behind you. Otherwise in group or 1v1 play its meh. I think they should up the damage on bats to be comparable with new ults. It's really fallen behind in today's meta.Legacy of Kain
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Siphoneer✭✭✭I prefer bats but that doesn't make it better. What I find is soul tethered is telegraphed enough that people just block through it and the heal isn't as good as devouring. Bats with sap essence is a deadly combo but I find that because it's sustained people move out of range and bats with sap doesn't do enough damage to kill people unless they are potatoes. You can couple proxy, sap, and bats together but people are so Tanky these days, again they just block, or move out of range. The best time to pop bats and sap is when you have a Zerg behind you. Otherwise in group or 1v1 play its meh. I think they should up the damage on bats to be comparable with new ults. It's really fallen behind in today's meta.
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that helped a lot, Could always swap between the two I suppose, its hard to give up the stun and cool animation of Soul Tether lol 0 -
Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It really depends honestly.
Do you need the burst + stun of Soul Tether or do you prefer to put consistent pressure on your enemies with Devouring swarm?
Do you have another Vampire ability slotted for the passives? Siphon abilities?
Are you using the Vampire Lord armor set?
I honestly like Devouring Swarms as I see people try desperately to dodge roll out of it while I Invigorating Drain them, having them waste even more stamina breaking free from that stun on top of the dodge rolls. People that block I just fear and get the same result. The constant pressure of Swarms is much more threatening than Soul Tether, unless you're a Bombblade or can catch a group unaware of the upcoming Tether.Edited by Silver_Strider on November 6, 2016 6:07PMArgonian forever0 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Soul TetherSoup tether if it crits 1st time. Devouring swarm just let's everyone know to Dawnbreaker, destro inferno ulti ( which is more powerful than your healing from it, I just ward and chase vamps with eye of the storm ) and all whilst hitting you with a prismatic glyph.
If anyone soul tethers me it's me or them, generally they'll be geared up to flee if it fails with thier little combo but if someone just jumps on me with bats then prepare to burn.PC Master Race
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Siphoneer✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends honestly.
Do you need the burst + stun of Soul Tether or do you prefer to put consistent pressure on your enemies with Devouring swarm?
Do you have another Vampire ability slotted for the passives? Siphon abilities?
Are you using the Vampire Lord armor set?
I honestly like Devouring Swarms as I see people try desperately to dodge roll out of it while I Invigorating Drain them, having them waste even more stamina breaking free from that stun on top of the dodge rolls. People that block I just fear and get the same result. The constant pressure of Swarms is much more threatening than Soul Tether, unless you're a Bombblade or can catch a group unaware of the upcoming Tether.
I dual wield with a resto on back bar If I remember correctly its
Bar 1 : Dual Wield
Impale
Lotus Fan
Shadow Image (I sometimes swap this out for something else like fear)
Merciless Revolve
Soul Harvest - Ultimate
Bar 2 : Restoration
Swallow Soul
Healing Ward
Siphoning Attacks
Sap Essence
Crippling Grasp
And for the last ultimate Im still deciding though hence this thread
Also I might add I PVE not PVP until I get a better computer0 -
WalksonGraves✭✭✭✭✭
✭Soul TetherSoul tether does more damage and has passives, meteor shower is a much better use of the slot though.0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Devouring SwarmWalksonGraves wrote: »Soul tether does more damage and has passives, meteor shower is a much better use of the slot though.
Soul Tether does not do more damage, its not even close, bats is close to 50% more damage before even taking thaumaturge into account. And since he's not using any CC that goes through block meteor becomes much less effective, its only good for group play or when you can ensure that the opponent won't block it
Destro ulti is better than both, but for most situations I prefer bats to tether, I try to get single target burst from merciless+soul harvestEdited by Lexxypwns on November 7, 2016 4:48PM0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Devouring Swarmhow much is bats cost?Edited by Xvorg on November 7, 2016 6:39PMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1