Sounds like a bad idea

No. I've spent millions of gold building a character that can play in PVP, standard PVE, dungeon PVE and dueling without changing any gear. You can too. It just takes time, practice and gold.

What? So I would have to play only one or the other on a new character? Listen folks, some people, like myself, enjoy both PvE and PvP. And greatly appreciate the consistency throughout both!

Sorry, but I share the same view as the others to date - it's a terrible idea. There is no justification whatsoever for giving you more character slots than me because you PvP and I don't. That's just going to divide the two communities even more, not bring them closer together.

The only thing wrong with the present setup is that ZOS should make greater distinctions between skill changes that are required for one playstyle rather than another and limit the changes accordingly, i.e. if a skill needs buffing or nerfing for PvP then don't apply that change to PvE, and vice versa.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I disagree with this idea.

I believe the logical way to seperate PvP from PvE is by skills.

This means, the characters use the same skills as today but when entering PvP, the flip over to PvP skills or even better, the two bars are saved to PvP zoning but differ from PvE zones upon entering.

You mean like a PvP + PvE template for each character ?
Entering cyrodiil or IC switches to PvP temple.
All other areas activate the PvE template.
You can have identical PvE and PvP character templates and is the default.
I can go with that.
Removes the I am gimped because I do both and hate respeccing all the time problem.

Nice.
/pats on shoulder

Tandor wrote: »

Sorry, but I share the same view as the others to date - it's a terrible idea. There is no justification whatsoever for giving you more character slots than me because you PvP and I don't. That's just going to divide the two communities even more, not bring them closer together.

The only thing wrong with the present setup is that ZOS should make greater distinctions between skill changes that are required for one playstyle rather than another and limit the changes accordingly, i.e. if a skill needs buffing or nerfing for PvP then don't apply that change to PvE, and vice versa.

Actually I rarely PvP, but visit the forums regularly and witness (and occasionally participate in) the constant bickering between PvP and PvE players. This does not apply to everyone, but the mindsets of these two groups are sometimes mutually exclusive.
The PvP and PvE communities sometimes have vastly different opinions on aspects of the game, like leveling characters, gear design (proc sets) and the power of some skills.

From what I have read it seems the majority of PvP players would prefer to;

a) Grind characters to 50 as quickly as possible rather than quest/progress through zones
b) Have skill points accessible account wide
c) Not have to complete fighters/mage/undaunted on each character (forced to do PvE content)
d) Be able to change class/race/skills easily to test set-ups (or in some cases...chase the elusive meta)
e) Have separate skills & gear for PvE and PvP
f) Have balance rather than bling.

From what I have read it seems the majority of PvE players would prefer to;

a) Quest & progress through zones to level 50
b) Earn skill points for each character, exploring for skyshard and completing quests
c) Not have to complete alliance skills (vigor/warhorn/caltrops etc) on each character (forced to do PvP content)
d) Play a different class while questing, exploring.
e) Have separate skills & gear for PvE and PvP
f) Have bling rather than balance.

Of course this does not apply to everyone as many people enjoy both PvP and PvE.

As I said earlier in the post I do not PvP much, but I am of the impression that the core of what PvP should be is about pitting your skills (or your teams skills) against another player(s) or team. Selection of gear and abilities is important, but not the 'grind' to get them and for balance all characters need to be the same level.
Finally, luck should be no substitute for skill in a 'balanced' PvP environment (eg proc sets).

You mean like a PvP + PvE template for each character ?
Entering cyrodiil or IC switches to PvP temple.
All other areas activate the PvE template.
You can have identical PvE and PvP character templates and is the default.
I can go with that.
Removes the I am gimped because I do both and hate respeccing all the time problem.

Yeah, this IS a better description of what I was trying to suggest.
Once the character has been transfered to the template you can change class/race/skills etc..but this template can only be used in PvP and with skills slightly modified for PvP.
It would also make it easier for people who predominantly PvE get into PvP, as they can easily modify their PvE character to be more effective in PvP. They would still have to L2P PvP but it would help with the learning curve.
These templates could be saved (eg PvP character slots). Not giving PvP extra slots just more options for everyone.

Clearly not any of u played Guild Wars 1. This was perfect for that game and great testing out new builds instead of grinding.

andreasranasen wrote: »

Clearly not any of u played Guild Wars 1. This was perfect for that game and great testing out new builds instead of grinding.

I personally played a lot of guild wars 1
That PvP design, in my opinion was poor so it's not going to be something that I'd support in any other game

It never made any sense because why have two different separated character situations when you could've just made a better game function and meshed the character into different game modes.