I cant deal with the proc sets for 3 months...

leepalmer95 · October 2016

I literally cant be bothered waiting 3 months for zos to attempt to fix the game.

All these proc sets are just stupid, there is literally no skill in pvp anymore, all the bad players are now being carried by rng procs, good going zos.

People complained stuff like viper/ veli was too strong and your response is to bring in even more annoying proc sets.

It is even worth giving feedback on this forum, everything is just basically ignored and you always put stuff in no one asks for and yet ruins the game just that bit more which is then ignored. Gap closer snares? Poisons? etc..

Can you just fix your game i really dont think i can deal with you attempting to fix is seasonally instead of weekly.

Lava_Croft · October 2016

You don't like it that all the trashcans suddenly found a purpose?

You have no heart.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · October 2016

So is this a quitting thread or just another complaint thread about proc sets?

alexkdd99 · October 2016

I was in Cyrodiil the other day and there were 3 or 4 players who everytime I started fighting i would be instant snared then just dead after he only hit me with 1 or 2 attacks. Tremorscale is one proc set that should not even proc on other players.

Sure I could just go get these proc sets but they are zero fun and that is why I play the game.

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

As if you aren't wearing them yourself though. If you're not then it's your fault for sucking. GG and L2proc.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · October 2016

I find it amusing that you think they will try to fix it at all. Proc sets are cool and exciting! Who wants a boring old set that just makes some number on a character screen bigger!

#ProcSets4Life!

I press a button and something cool happens! Awesome!!! Im shooting fire!!! Im a volcano!!! Im puking green crap on you!! Im so excited right now!

Argah · October 2016

What does proc even mean see it a lot here?

Lava_Croft · October 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

I find it amusing that you think they will try to fix it at all. Proc sets are cool and exciting! Who wants a boring old set that just makes some number on a character screen bigger!

#ProcSets4Life!

I press a button and something cool happens! Awesome!!! Im shooting fire!!! Im a volcano!!! Im puking green crap on you!! Im so excited right now!

You are totally in the Wrobel zone.

MissBizz · October 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

I find it amusing that you think they will try to fix it at all. Proc sets are cool and exciting! Who wants a boring old set that just makes some number on a character screen bigger!

#ProcSets4Life!

I press a button and something cool happens! Awesome!!! Im shooting fire!!! Im a volcano!!! Im puking green crap on you!! Im so excited right now!

@vyndral13preub18_ESO I'm about 99% sure that's sarcasm... But as a non-competitive PvE player who just likes to have fun.... That is totally true. Haha.

I told a buddy I was using Illambris because it looked and sounded cool, and he laughed at me. As he knows I was being totally honest.

Tavore1138 · October 2016

Proc sets are great fun for running around in PvE (ph33r my giant green balls!) but I'd never get close enough to all the magic users running in destro staff ulti trains to actually use them in PvP

Sigma957 · October 2016

Some of those proc sets have always been in the game ie vipers and red mountain. They really only became more relevant recently with the introduction of proccing monster sets. I say go use those sets yourself and proc with the best of them

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · October 2016

Can't beat em, join em

leepalmer95 · October 2016

Sigma957 wrote: »

Some of those proc sets have always been in the game ie vipers and red mountain. They really only became more relevant recently with the introduction of proccing monster sets. I say go use those sets yourself and proc with the best of them

But thats boring, when i light attack, ransack and bash on a heavy s&b build and take nearly 1 hit someone.

Like why is the tankiest possible set up in the game able to nearly 1 hit someone with 70% of that dmg coming from rng procs?

Rohamad_Ali · October 2016

Hopefully the double proc bugs will get fixed sooner then that . Two sets can proc together but they should not each double proc in same second , that's just beyond over powered . A balance patch is needed but that most likely will be 3 months .

Lava_Croft · October 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Sigma957 wrote: »

Some of those proc sets have always been in the game ie vipers and red mountain. They really only became more relevant recently with the introduction of proccing monster sets. I say go use those sets yourself and proc with the best of them

But thats boring, when i light attack, ransack and bash on a heavy s&b build and take nearly 1 hit someone.

Like why is the tankiest possible set up in the game able to nearly 1 hit someone with 70% of that dmg coming from rng procs?

Because Wrobel is a professional game designer and you are not.

leepalmer95 · October 2016

'Professional'

Sigma957 · October 2016

I honestly don't use them myself so just use my skills to kill people but I have been killed many a time from a stealthed NB running the vipers/veli set, it is annoying when it happens.

Lava_Croft · October 2016

Hey, somewhere someone thinks it's still a good idea to pay Wrobel actual money for the work he does.

LuminaLilly · October 2016

Spamming puncture until your tremor scale procs isn't skill. Outside mournhold and wayrest, all you see are these stupid dunrippers bursting up from the ground.

Kendaric · October 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

I press a button and something cool happens! Awesome!!!

Reminds me of Mike Laidlaw's famous quote regarding the combat in DA II...

On topic:

Why don't they just disable the proc chance when fighting another player?

Acrolas · October 2016

Cyrodiil is supposed to be a cluster *** stalemate. If we were going off strict military prowess, the Pact would have already been wiped out and Dwemer parking lots built on their graves.

The sheer ridiculousness from all three alliances is the only thing making an ongoing war make sense. It may not be good for your bottom line, but traditionalists are usually the first ones annihilated in any conflict.

Joy_Division · October 2016

Kendaric wrote: »

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

I press a button and something cool happens! Awesome!!!

Reminds me of Mike Laidlaw's famous quote regarding the combat in DA II...

On topic:

Why don't they just disable the proc chance when fighting another player?

If ESO is taking inspiration from DA II, uninstall right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV97ozaD4vs

Per your question:

Sets would be worthless in PvP. I don't mind proc sets, I do mind getting hit with 3 them at the same time from a single player.

andreasranasen · October 2016

If you run Veli and Viper and call yourself good I will just laugh at you.

Silver_Strider · October 2016

Make monster sets only proc in PvE and completely useless in PvP.

Let the salty tears of every PvPer flow, as I'll make a killing building bridges so everyone else can enjoy Cyrodiil's new ocean fishing spot

Alucardo · October 2016

Joy_Division wrote: »

Sets would be worthless in PvP. I don't mind proc sets, I do mind getting hit with 3 them at the same time from a single player.

That's the issue. Nobody really complained when it was just Viper or Red Mountain. Then they added Velidreth, Selene's, Tremorscale all on top of a huge heavy armor buff.
Outside of a Nightblade, PVPing in medium armor is extremely challenging these days. There's so much damage that it's hard to mitigate any of it, and if you attempt to dodge roll, chances are you'll fly into a *** velidreth orb.

People complain about proc sets, so they add more. People complained heavy armor was overperforming, so they add a bunch of new heavy armor sets that make them even stronger.
You literally have more damage and sustain in HA than medium in PVP now. On paper you'd think medium would, but with the added healing, mitigation, constitution and wrath, heavy far outperforms the other armor types.
People are getting ONE SHOT by heavy armor builds. Now, when ZOS said they wanted to make health more important, I didn't know they meant like this - by adding armor sets that can melt opponents in a light attack and ransack.

Basically this is PVP right now

- CP campaigns are full of HA cheese builds
- Non-CP (Azura) is full of Nightblades and snipers

PVP sucks. They've finally managed to completely *** it beyond repair. Yes I'm ranting, but I'm frustrated. I want the old days back where people put more thought into the sets they'd use, where light armor and medium armor was actually viable.
I'd pay *** £50 a month for a server like that, just because I used to love the PVP in this game.
In under a week I went from Undaunted 2 to 9. The rest of my time is spent trading. I just can't step foot in Cyrodiil anymore. It's broken as ***.

***.

Jaronking · October 2016

Because of proc sets freaken PVE TAKES MORE SKILL THAN PVP that should just show how bad your game design is.

Waseem · October 2016

next patch magicka classes can kill you with their clothes aswell

SnubbS · October 2016

It's not like this was CS:GO before proc sets -- ESO has one of the lowest skill gaps out of any game I've ever played. Proc sets simply up the Time-to-kill -- so instead of being hit with a 12k frag like in 1.6, we're being hit with 5 attacks that equal about the same amount of damage. It really doesn't lower the skill gap half as much as people seem to believe it does, it's just a new way of doing the same things that we've already done. I had more fun on 1.6 running around Critrush, Wreckingblow, leaping people for instagibs than I do now -- but it's not it like required vastly more skill to do so.

I'm not a defender of proc sets per-say, I'm a defender of this Time-to-kill. By all means, remove every proc set -- just keep this fast paced Time-to-kill.

Edit: Also, nerf Heavy. I don't understand why anyone ever asked for HA buffs, but for the love of god nerf heavy. Not Blackrose -- Heavy in general.

SublimeSparo · October 2016

death recaps in cyrodiil
45%
Velidreth
Incap
Viper
Surprise Attack
Red mountain

45%
Viper
Ransack
Viper
Bash
Tremorscale

9%
Soulstrike
Jesus beam

1%
Some actual skills

It's super fun.

I always thought the proverbial 'I Win button' was a joke but now they are the common cause of death.
So boring.

As much as i used to hate seeing
Heavy attack
Poison injection
Ambush
Surprise Attack
Killers blade/ Executioner

At least it took a tiny bit more skill

Ackwalan · October 2016

In PvP proc sets should have a 30 second cool down. If you are running with multiple proc sets, that cool down should affect all the sets you have on. That way, you will only get one proc every 30 seconds, no matter how many sets you have equipped.

#Make PvP great again. Skill not RNG.

WhiteMage · October 2016

So I found a stam DK in Azura's... very study, probably in heavy armor because of nearly 30k health. I'm a light armor magplar with 1512 crit resist but have somewhere between 0-4k effective resistance due to penetration. Over and over again I would get instagibbed by a dizzying swing, take flight, and velidreth combo. I really don't like how that's possible. (I have 21k health) The best my proc sets as a magicka user can do is act like an extra jab per use of jabs, which already only tickles most heavy users, or call a far less reliable meteorite on an opponent who will probably dodge the dots that would active it.