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Imperial City Prison
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Sooo, just grabbed a subscription again, and this dungeon is still overtuned and garbage... =/
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✭✭✭✭✭Then do it on normal - these days it even drops cp160 gear (instead of vr15).
Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Ankahet✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »Then do it on normal - these days it even drops cp160 gear (instead of vr15).
It was on normal. And furthermore, why is it I am getting cp500+ people in my party that dont know how to do mechanics?
In a dungeon just now, the boss has a mechanic where two adds are summoned and they chain a person to the ground, and a slowly falling sword appears above them. If the sword reaches the person, it one-shots them. Yet time and time again, these people ignored the adds. The boss wasnt anywhere near low enough health to burn. Even after people told to kill the adds, they ignored them. This has happened on like three occasions now with different people...
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✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »Then do it on normal - these days it even drops cp160 gear (instead of vr15).
It was on normal. And furthermore, why is it I am getting cp500+ people in my party that dont know how to do mechanics?
In a dungeon just now, the boss has a mechanic where two adds are summoned and they chain a person to the ground, and a slowly falling sword appears above them. If the sword reaches the person, it one-shots them. Yet time and time again, these people ignored the adds. The boss wasnt anywhere near low enough health to burn. Even after people told to kill the adds, they ignored them. This has happened on like three occasions now with different people...
Well, if normal ICP is "overtuned" for you, maybe you need to optimize your build a little bit. No offense, but nWGT and nICP are such a faceroll now, you can do them with 3-4 dds and no heals or tanking at all.
And what boss do you mean? the one in Fungal grotto? But this mechanic has been there for a very long time, burning her without paying attention wasnt always possible.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Ankahet✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »Then do it on normal - these days it even drops cp160 gear (instead of vr15).
It was on normal. And furthermore, why is it I am getting cp500+ people in my party that dont know how to do mechanics?
In a dungeon just now, the boss has a mechanic where two adds are summoned and they chain a person to the ground, and a slowly falling sword appears above them. If the sword reaches the person, it one-shots them. Yet time and time again, these people ignored the adds. The boss wasnt anywhere near low enough health to burn. Even after people told to kill the adds, they ignored them. This has happened on like three occasions now with different people...
Well, if normal ICP is "overtuned" for you, maybe you need to optimize your build a little bit. No offense, but nWGT and nICP are such a faceroll now, you can do them with 3-4 dds and no heals or tanking at all.
And what boss do you mean? the one in Fungal grotto? But this mechanic has been there for a very long time, burning her without paying attention wasnt always possible.
Yeah was Bandu in FG. I wasnt saying they SHOULD try and burn her, I was saying they should have been obeying the mechanics. Failing to do that was leading to wipe after wipe.
And why is it "My build"? As if it were doable by one person and one person alone. Surely all four of our "builds" couldnt have been bad/mis-appropriated. Thats foolishness. An average group of people using the skills that they are comfortable with should be able to do it, yet every group I get for it fails.Edited by Ankahet on October 30, 2016 1:42AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »Then do it on normal - these days it even drops cp160 gear (instead of vr15).
It was on normal. And furthermore, why is it I am getting cp500+ people in my party that dont know how to do mechanics?
In a dungeon just now, the boss has a mechanic where two adds are summoned and they chain a person to the ground, and a slowly falling sword appears above them. If the sword reaches the person, it one-shots them. Yet time and time again, these people ignored the adds. The boss wasnt anywhere near low enough health to burn. Even after people told to kill the adds, they ignored them. This has happened on like three occasions now with different people...
Well, if normal ICP is "overtuned" for you, maybe you need to optimize your build a little bit. No offense, but nWGT and nICP are such a faceroll now, you can do them with 3-4 dds and no heals or tanking at all.
And what boss do you mean? the one in Fungal grotto? But this mechanic has been there for a very long time, burning her without paying attention wasnt always possible.
Yeah was Bandu in FG. I wasnt saying they SHOULD try and burn her, I was saying they should have been obeying the mechanics. Failing to do that was leading to wipe after wipe.
And why is it "My build"? As if it were doable by one person and one person alone. Surely all four of our "builds" couldnt have been bad/mis-appropriated. Thats foolishness. An average group of people using the skills that they are comfortable with should be able to do it, yet every group I get for it fails.
If every single group fails, it might be not just their issue, thats what I mean. Maybe I wouldve agreed if we were talking about some of the new "veteran hardmode" versions of the old dungeons, but WGT and ICP have been nerfed countless times and now they're merely shadows of their former selves, and one good player can carry newbs through normal versions (can be tricky as a tank, but tank isnt really needed for those dungeons). Of course, if newbs wouldnt stay in stupid too much and would follow the advices - but if some people are not capable of listening/reading the chat, or are too stubborn to be team players, its not game's fault.
And I agree, people tend to ignore the mechanics and that causes many issues in pugs. But that contradicts with your point about IC dungeons being "overtuned". Because super easy pve (vr12 mobs that were designed with softcaps in mind vs vr16 players with champion points etc) is what caused this situation in the first place. No one even saw the mechanics of bosses, they were just burned in seconds...Edited by LadyNalcarya on October 30, 2016 2:35AMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Ankahet✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »Then do it on normal - these days it even drops cp160 gear (instead of vr15).
It was on normal. And furthermore, why is it I am getting cp500+ people in my party that dont know how to do mechanics?
In a dungeon just now, the boss has a mechanic where two adds are summoned and they chain a person to the ground, and a slowly falling sword appears above them. If the sword reaches the person, it one-shots them. Yet time and time again, these people ignored the adds. The boss wasnt anywhere near low enough health to burn. Even after people told to kill the adds, they ignored them. This has happened on like three occasions now with different people...
Well, if normal ICP is "overtuned" for you, maybe you need to optimize your build a little bit. No offense, but nWGT and nICP are such a faceroll now, you can do them with 3-4 dds and no heals or tanking at all.
And what boss do you mean? the one in Fungal grotto? But this mechanic has been there for a very long time, burning her without paying attention wasnt always possible.
Yeah was Bandu in FG. I wasnt saying they SHOULD try and burn her, I was saying they should have been obeying the mechanics. Failing to do that was leading to wipe after wipe.
And why is it "My build"? As if it were doable by one person and one person alone. Surely all four of our "builds" couldnt have been bad/mis-appropriated. Thats foolishness. An average group of people using the skills that they are comfortable with should be able to do it, yet every group I get for it fails.
If every single group fails, it might be not just their issue, thats what I mean. Maybe I wouldve agreed if we were talking about some of the new "veteran hardmode" versions of the old dungeons, but WGT and ICP have been nerfed countless times and now they're merely shadows of their former selves, and one good player can carry newbs through normal versions (can be tricky as a tank, but tank isnt really needed for those dungeons). Of course, if newbs wouldnt stay in stupid too much and would follow the advices - but if some people are not capable of listening/reading the chat, or are too stubborn to be team players, its not game's fault.
And I agree, people tend to ignore the mechanics and that causes many issues in pugs. But that contradicts with your point about IC dungeons being "overtuned". Because super easy pve (vr12 mobs that were designed with softcaps in mind vs vr16 players with champion points etc) is what caused this situation in the first place. No one even saw the mechanics of bosses, they were just burned in seconds...
The "overtuning" of ICP and those dungeons was a separate point/topic.0