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Werewolf Lord Polymorph
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✭✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »The costume itself is ugly... How could anyone think its good...
Wouldn't the world be boring if everyone liked the exact same things?
A basic sense of fashion need be universal.
It's a werewolf not a beauty queen or a shopping mall diva.
This polymorph looks awesome.
The whole polymoprh is horrendus...not to mention extremely lorebreaking
@notimetocare "horrendus" is opinion.
How is it lore breaking?
Because it does not exist. Never has, and never logically can
But why?
Your argument has no basis behind it, especially considering the fact that the lore masters that work for Bethesda and ZOS can basically make whatever they want official lore pretty easily if it doesn't break something that is already canon.
This does break canon based on the fact Hircine it the father of manbeasts not slightly beastly men. There is no logic to a creature that isnt primarily beast form
If we're just going to go off of personal interpretation, this polymorph looks plenty man-beastly to me.
It's been stated a few times in various interviews and ESO Live shows that the lore is taken very seriously. They have someone who works full time at ZOS whose entire job is to know the lore, and he will stop something if it doesn't work within the canon. If there is no supporting fact within the canon, and nothing opposing it, he's been able to create it. I even remember once where it was mentioned they had to go back to people at the sister studio who made older TES games and ask about certain things.
You keep saying it's not logical but you wont say why. How is this absolutely not possible in the universe of Elder Scrolls? We have all manner of magical man, mer, beast, divine beings, so on, so forth. The ability to travel between mortal and godly/other wordly planes of existence. NPC characters can cast teleportation spells. A cat can disguise himself as an AD queen, etc., etc., blah blah, but there is no room for someone to be caught in what looks like a semi-transformed state between original species and werebeast?
Nope, there isnt room for it. And i trust ZoS to take lore seriously as much as i trust them to balance the game.
LOL ok. Great basis for your claims.
Better than your 'i think its cool'
Already stated before why it doesn't fit into lore, being a broken record for slow learners is tedious
You say it's not logical, it doesn't exist and never will.
But the thing is, It can exist if the writers want it to. That is the beauty and charm of this IP. Just because TES 1-5 never mentioned them doesn't mean it can't happen. Much of the stuff in this particular game is derived from loose histories but was fleshed out by things the writers had to invent.
You may not like it, and that's fine, but at this point is was OK'd as canon.
Except it isnt because it isnt logical. Lore is logical, it was OK'd by Zo$. Doesnt make it canon. If it were not a CS item, your reasoning could fit
So because it is obtained through the store it is somehow different?
It makes a big differenve because of incentive to make money, yes. Sell something 'cool' that people will buy or something lore friendly that people might not buy
See, now we're starting to get somewhere, a little insight to how your brain is working. So is everything on the store that is not obtainable in the game by other means lore breaking also? Or is it just this because you don't like it?
Plenty of people are openly hating this thing and wont buy it. If it were a free polymorph that you could get via a quest line I am guessing these same people would not like the way it looks there either.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around
Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph. "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭✭✭Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
Also the hair.
I want the female non-beast race version's hair style so much!Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
It would be great if it was a skin and a costume, but the polymorph in itself is very well done I think.
I don't currently have any characters I want it for but I am now leaning towards getting it anyway, just in case I decide I want it later. Been bit by that in the past, passing on something I wasn't very interested in and then wanting it later when it was unavailable.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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✭✭✭✭If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
It would be great if it was a skin and a costume, but the polymorph in itself is very well done I think.
I don't currently have any characters I want it for but I am now leaning towards getting it anyway, just in case I decide I want it later. Been bit by that in the past, passing on something I wasn't very interested in and then wanting it later when it was unavailable.
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✭✭✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
It would be great if it was a skin and a costume, but the polymorph in itself is very well done I think.
I don't currently have any characters I want it for but I am now leaning towards getting it anyway, just in case I decide I want it later. Been bit by that in the past, passing on something I wasn't very interested in and then wanting it later when it was unavailable.
You min-maxing to RP now Siggy?
No, I don't care for Argonians that much.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
Show Me Your Dunmer
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
It would be great if it was a skin and a costume, but the polymorph in itself is very well done I think.
I don't currently have any characters I want it for but I am now leaning towards getting it anyway, just in case I decide I want it later. Been bit by that in the past, passing on something I wasn't very interested in and then wanting it later when it was unavailable.
Hehe yeah, same here. When I bought that Dark Shaman and Priest of the Green costumes, I so wished that the Tribal Shaman Pack was still there to complement those 2 outfits
The Black and Red Evening Dress too "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭I would have no issues with this "polymorph" if it were not a polymorph and instead a costume so my Werewolf can still look like the Redguard he is but indicate he is a Werewolf. This polymorph takes that from me, and even makes me pale like I'm some kind of Werewolf-Vampire hybrid...Edited by UltimaJoe777 on October 28, 2016 12:34AMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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threefarms✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »The costume itself is ugly... How could anyone think its good...
Wouldn't the world be boring if everyone liked the exact same things?
A basic sense of fashion need be universal.
It's a werewolf not a beauty queen or a shopping mall diva.
This polymorph looks awesome.
The whole polymoprh is horrendus...not to mention extremely lorebreaking
@notimetocare "horrendus" is opinion.
How is it lore breaking?
Because it does not exist. Never has, and never logically can
Such is a video game...
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✭If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
I could see it. Hircine granting a particularly favorable servant with power that blurs the line between human and beast form, or even just bitten by Hircine himself.Edited by bottleofsyrup on October 28, 2016 1:58AM3 -
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✭✭✭✭bottleofsyrup wrote: »If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
I could see it. Hircine granting a particularly favorable servant with power that blurs the line between human and beast form, or even just bitten by Hircine himself.
Hircine is known to gift people with great control of their lycanthropy.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 506 -
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✭Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
Also the hair.
I want the female non-beast race version's hair style so much!
I want the male's hair for my Dunmer. The existing ponytails available for male characters are either too small or too long.1 -
craybest✭✭✭✭✭it looks AWESOME, don't mind the haters.
I just wish we could get the skin and the costume separately to make it look like I can transform between my regular form and this one
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captainwolfos✭✭✭✭I'll concede that it does look pretty sweet on beast races... or rather, it makes beast races look pretty sweet.
I'm not sure if I like the clothes themselves, on actually seeing them in game, but on human/mer characters, I don't like how it looks at all.Enemy of Boob Plates
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✭Overall I think its well done. I personally don't like the way the dress puffs around the knees. It looks odd to me but maybe on a moving character its better. I am still considering purchasing it.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault0 -
IwakuraLain42✭✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »Except it isnt because it isnt logical. Lore is logical, it was OK'd by Zo$. Doesnt make it canon. If it were not a CS item, your reasoning could fit
"Logical" and "TES Lore" aren't terms I would ever use in the same sentence. You don't seem to know how the franchise's lore works. It is often contradictory and ambiguous and has developed over the game's history. Just because something has been stated as a fact in one game doesn't mean that later games can change/reinterpret that (Cyrodiil, I'm looking at you ...)
And I really don't see any point where a Werewolf Lord would contradict the lore, Hircine in a Daedric Prince, if his plans require it he can easily grant a being this form.3 -
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✭notimetocare wrote: »The costume itself is ugly... How could anyone think its good...
Its not ugly just needs colors-dye...3 -
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✭✭✭✭The name werewolf lord does not fit, putting the work "Lord" into it makes it seem like ZoS is trying to make people believe it is equal in status to a Vampire Lord but it is not true, you see this polymorph is just a Half-transformed werewolf drabbed in what appears to be the Jarl outfit from Skyrim, it is not a werewolf taking a superior form (Infact this form would probably be weaker as you are practically half-transformed) this is simply a werewolf who has a greater degree over their initial transformation so they can show some bestial features in human form but unlike the VL it is not an upgrade of their regular form, I personally would of called it Alpha Werewolf as like I said before the title "lord" does not fit.Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on October 28, 2016 9:29AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭I bought this polymorph, it is ok, but I would like that it sounds a bit different, not like a beaten dog.
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✭✭✭✭✭If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
It would be great if it was a skin and a costume, but the polymorph in itself is very well done I think.
I don't currently have any characters I want it for but I am now leaning towards getting it anyway, just in case I decide I want it later. Been bit by that in the past, passing on something I wasn't very interested in and then wanting it later when it was unavailable.
Although I don't play any characters that would use this (including my werewolf) as a roleplayer I just KNOW that sooner or later I'll be rolling a villain for a plot that will. LOL So I went ahead and snagged it.
I also think that, yes, the hairstyles associated with this NEED to be available on their own as well! ZOS, you could get an awful lot of mileage out of this one with just a modicum of effort... just sayin'.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0 -
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If your rolling a character for an RP plot then I would recommend a vampire mainly due to the fact that most villains seek power and in most cases immortality which vampirism would provide, also vampire's are usually universally considered more evil and in this setting many view werewolves as food.MornaBaine wrote: »If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
It would be great if it was a skin and a costume, but the polymorph in itself is very well done I think.
I don't currently have any characters I want it for but I am now leaning towards getting it anyway, just in case I decide I want it later. Been bit by that in the past, passing on something I wasn't very interested in and then wanting it later when it was unavailable.
Although I don't play any characters that would use this (including my werewolf) as a roleplayer I just KNOW that sooner or later I'll be rolling a villain for a plot that will. LOL So I went ahead and snagged it.
I also think that, yes, the hairstyles associated with this NEED to be available on their own as well! ZOS, you could get an awful lot of mileage out of this one with just a modicum of effort... just sayin'.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
If your rolling a character for an RP plot then I would recommend a vampire mainly due to the fact that most villains seek power and in most cases immortality which vampirism would provide, also vampire's are usually universally considered more evil and in this setting many view werewolves as food.MornaBaine wrote: »If Molag Bal can turn some ppl into Vampire Lords, then Hircine should definitely be able to do the same and be able to create Werewolf Lords. After all, he made Lycantropes, complete animals (The Hound), a Weredaedroth even,... A more intelligent and powerful werewolf shouldn't be a problem for him
Shame none of my chars are Werewolves, but I bought it nonetheless for the occasion I do wanna wolf around Plus the outfit he wears looks fantastic, I can see why some ppl would like it without the polymorph.
It would be great if it was a skin and a costume, but the polymorph in itself is very well done I think.
I don't currently have any characters I want it for but I am now leaning towards getting it anyway, just in case I decide I want it later. Been bit by that in the past, passing on something I wasn't very interested in and then wanting it later when it was unavailable.
Although I don't play any characters that would use this (including my werewolf) as a roleplayer I just KNOW that sooner or later I'll be rolling a villain for a plot that will. LOL So I went ahead and snagged it.
I also think that, yes, the hairstyles associated with this NEED to be available on their own as well! ZOS, you could get an awful lot of mileage out of this one with just a modicum of effort... just sayin'.
I'm well aware of those things. Honestly, I wasn't really thinking of making it a werewolf of any type. But a Daedra or even a "herald of Hircine" or something like that. It's basically a unique looking "monster" that can be used for a lot of things.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0 -
the_man_of_steal✭✭✭I 100% AGREE!!! I would buy this polymorph instantly if it were a costume that could be dyed and still display my head piece. I Really really LOVE the design, but I do not want to be one of a million players looking exactly the same... Even if I look like a BO$$
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Mandragora✭✭✭✭I prefer orange/yellow/green eyes for a beast like monster. I like it otherwise, but I agree that it would be perfect as a skin + constume.
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kratier✭✭✭✭no i agree with him
many lore breaking F2p af items in this mmo's cash store
and they are incentivized to come up with more, bigger flashier items that completely break lore and immersion for the sake or profits
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Dragath✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »The costume itself is ugly... How could anyone think its good...
Wouldn't the world be boring if everyone liked the exact same things?
A basic sense of fashion need be universal.
It's a werewolf not a beauty queen or a shopping mall diva.
This polymorph looks awesome.
The whole polymoprh is horrendus...not to mention extremely lorebreaking
@notimetocare "horrendus" is opinion.
How is it lore breaking?
Because it does not exist. Never has, and never logically can
But why?
Your argument has no basis behind it, especially considering the fact that the lore masters that work for Bethesda and ZOS can basically make whatever they want official lore pretty easily if it doesn't break something that is already canon.
This does break canon based on the fact Hircine it the father of manbeasts not slightly beastly men. There is no logic to a creature that isnt primarily beast form
If we're just going to go off of personal interpretation, this polymorph looks plenty man-beastly to me.
It's been stated a few times in various interviews and ESO Live shows that the lore is taken very seriously. They have someone who works full time at ZOS whose entire job is to know the lore, and he will stop something if it doesn't work within the canon. If there is no supporting fact within the canon, and nothing opposing it, he's been able to create it. I even remember once where it was mentioned they had to go back to people at the sister studio who made older TES games and ask about certain things.
You keep saying it's not logical but you wont say why. How is this absolutely not possible in the universe of Elder Scrolls? We have all manner of magical man, mer, beast, divine beings, so on, so forth. The ability to travel between mortal and godly/other wordly planes of existence. NPC characters can cast teleportation spells. A cat can disguise himself as an AD queen, etc., etc., blah blah, but there is no room for someone to be caught in what looks like a semi-transformed state between original species and werebeast?
Nope, there isnt room for it. And i trust ZoS to take lore seriously as much as i trust them to balance the game.
LOL ok. Great basis for your claims.
Better than your 'i think its cool'
Already stated before why it doesn't fit into lore, being a broken record for slow learners is tedious
You say it's not logical, it doesn't exist and never will.
But the thing is, It can exist if the writers want it to. That is the beauty and charm of this IP. Just because TES 1-5 never mentioned them doesn't mean it can't happen. Much of the stuff in this particular game is derived from loose histories but was fleshed out by things the writers had to invent.
You may not like it, and that's fine, but at this point is was OK'd as canon.
Except it isnt because it isnt logical. Lore is logical, it was OK'd by Zo$. Doesnt make it canon. If it were not a CS item, your reasoning could fit
So because it is obtained through the store it is somehow different?
It makes a big differenve because of incentive to make money, yes. Sell something 'cool' that people will buy or something lore friendly that people might not buy
See, now we're starting to get somewhere, a little insight to how your brain is working. So is everything on the store that is not obtainable in the game by other means lore breaking also? Or is it just this because you don't like it?
Plenty of people are openly hating this thing and wont buy it. If it were a free polymorph that you could get via a quest line I am guessing these same people would not like the way it looks there either.
seems to be an a current topic now, so:
i think what he means is:
bethesda game studios had a vision for the lore, and albeit they changed a lot of stuff over the years, it was at least semi-okayish.
ZOS on the other hand is cutting corners wherever possible to sell stuff without any consideration to the real elder scrolls lore. just take a look at the interview of their "loremaster", saying everything is possible (as long as it sells, they mean).
the existence of this polymorph has nothing to do with lore, it was invented to make money.
personally, i do like it, and i bought it. i don't think the elder scrolls lore is really good anyways, so it doesnt bother me. but i could see how someone who does like the lore, doesn't like the fact that ZOS is selling out everything it once stood for.Edited by Dragath on October 2, 2017 9:06PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The Khajiit and Argonian versions look AMAZING.
LOL to anyone who says it "isn't lore." One of the expansions for Skyrim had vampires who changed form like that, into a "vampire lord" form. Who the heck cares, anyway? I mean, I'd care if it blatantly went against all established lore, like if it made them turn into sparkly rainbow griffons or something. But this ... nope. Doesn't bother me.
*Edit* Dang it. Didn't realize this was a necro'd thread. LOL.
This.kip_silverwolf wrote: »Just be happy it's not in a Crown Crate!
Edited by SydneyGrey on October 2, 2017 9:20PM0