EvilCroc wrote: »

No one can see your achievements directly. Only dyes and titles. We need only titles to be character specific, but Achivements themselves can be account wide. ZOS should make titles separate reward, not bounded to achievements and voila...everybody will be happy. At current state game is a pain for completist roleplayers. I want to have all achievements on my account, but I can't find any possible roleplay reason for my templar healer main to join Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood.

@EvilCroc

Titles are tied to achievements. csnnot share the achievement without sharing the title.

What your asking is for Zos to completely design his the achievements work and hence spend much time fixing what gets messed up.

So NO!!!

Osteos wrote: »

No thanks. Each of my characters are individuals.

Go google how the system works, before typing anything ignorant like that. Characters do have their own progress in that system.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Morvane wrote: »

When?

@Morvane Why do you ask When? I would expect you have heard something other than wishful thinking. I expect that none of the achievements in WoW actually counted for something, at least ones that are shared.

Why should someone get the title for killing the mage in vAA on a character they cannot play well enough to help clear vAA? Should not happen.

But don't be hypocrite. Then why don't you ask why a character who aplayer can't play well in vSO can have green dye?? After all dyes are way more obvious than titles. You only see a title of whoever you targeted. You see dyes of everyone around you. Dyes are already account-wide (so are bank, guilds, guild stores, pets, costumes, mounts, mementos, and I don't see you protesting). And what about CP? Where are your threads about how CP shouldn't be account-wide because your characters are individuals? Nah, you're just a hypocrite, you welcome account-wide features that you want and protest against features that you don't care about. But what's the problem if I can have fun too? It will change nothing for you, your game will stay the same. Literally nothing will change for you or your characters. All people asking for, is to add another tab in interface that would track all the unique achievements across all characters. That's what wow system is. You don't share titles in wow


Obviously, titles that require certain skill have to be 100% character specific. But there's absolutely no reason that achievements that aren't character-specific shouldn't be account-wide. For example, collectibles or fishing. It doesn't matter which character you're on when all you're doing is clicking 1 button.

mlstevens42_ESO wrote: »

If all achievements were shared then you wouldn't have to learn how to pvp on all toons. You wouldn't have to learn how to do vma or anything else worthwhile on different toons with different setups classes and so on. It would get very boring very quickly because there would be nothing at all to do.

Lets be honest about this there is no real reason why you should be able to be a champion of nirn on a specific toon without ever having completed the requirements and really in the scheme of things that is an easy one. VMA done on temp but can't get past the door on your nb....wearing the achieve on the nb would be a lie. Can't fight your way out of a wet paper bag with your dragon knight but your all cool with a sorcerer why is the dk wearing emperor title or what not. Nope do not think the titles and all should be shared.

Things aren't black and white. Some achievements are character-specific, but some aren't. And no, disagree with the "champion of nirn" example. Quests are easy. No reason to do the same thing all over again. That achievement is achieved by a player, not by a character. A character is just a tool. And that achievement doesn't show your mastery of using that tool, it just shows how much time you spent AS A PLAYER. On the other hand, vet trials and, say, VMA require knowledge of a certain character and skill. So those titles can be character specific. Then again, what if you have 2 characters of the same class and build on your account? Say, 2 magicka sorcs because you wanted to play 2 factions before 1T. You already showed your skill by completing vMA with one of them...

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Morvane wrote: »

When?

No. No. No. No. A thousand times No. Stop asking 'can we have this like WoW?" No. You know what WoW is? It's a cesspool ponzi scheme not even run by its original crew anymore. They can't be bothered to make new, original content anymore everything is derivative, and yet for some inane reason most of my old friends still cling to it like they have freaking Stockholm syndrome.

What infuriated me about WoW was that they did all of a sudden decide to make achieves account wide. So even though I worked my butt off for everything, it didn't matter because my main already had most of the major achieves. I'm talking back when waiting for a year got you the purple proto drake and the 320% flight speed bonus, then they go and make every boob able to buy it. I'm talking about going through all the dungeons to get a title then they go and slice and dice up said dungeons to make them less epic, less time worth the investment.

Blizzard has fully and for all time ruined their game. They're only keeping it alive to milk cash out of people as long as they can by pandering to nostalgia while they promote their MOBA and FPS ripoffs.

Stop expecting or demanding ZOS do the same. They'll get a big enough audience by doing one thing: STICKING TO THE LORE.

Oh yes, and we will keep asking. Just like we got duels, and just like casuals got IC dungeons nerfed. It's not, it's absolutely not about WOW or being like wow. It's about admitting the fact, that WoW recognized achievements for what they are: things that A PLAYER does. So they gave us a system with which we still have our bragging rights even if playing an alt right now. That being said, you can't use titles of other characters in WoW.

There's just absolutely no reason to force people to grind fishing or trophies once again, just so they stop feeling like they aren't progressing anymore if they are playing their alts.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Morvane wrote: »

dont tell me this, please =(

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Most likely never

Its the sad truth. They don't want level 3 people running around with Stormproof or Flawless Conqueror

Yet they allow them to have maxed out champion points..... hmmmm

What is 561 CP if you don't know how to play the character? If you do know how to play the character then you should have no problem earning the achievements again.

This is nonsense. We aren't talking about skillful achievements like vma or trials. Sure, those can be done again, no problem. But this game has TOO MANY achievements that are simply GRIND. So yes, you do have a problem earning them again.

Sinolai wrote: »

Would be a welcome change. I am getting pissed for even thinking about killing all the Cyrodiil dwelve bosses 3 more times or collecting 100 pllunder skulls 4 times.
Some of my alts already have a few Veteran dungeon achievements that my main character is missing.
And every time I play with my alts and open chest I am just thinking: This could have been one chest closer to the achievement for my main character... The fear of getting hard to get achievement needed for something cool (eg. amberplasma skin) for alts instead of my main character is the biggest reason I avoid plying with them and feel unconfortable when I do. (Mostly using them as mules and farming motifs for main character)

^ This! 100 times this. It's that feeling that you can't even play another character comfortably, because what if you get something you need on your main and that is very rare and simply depends on RNG,not your skill. For example, a mob will drop that collectible that you can't get on your main since 2014.

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

First and foremost, before replying, let alone tagging someone, read what they say. I specifically said that there are character specific achievements and titles and player-specific. A character who a player hasn't completed vma with will not have a Stormproof title. Where did this idea come from?

And yes, it is hypocrite. You want to see achievements of your characters? Go ahead, no one is asking to take that away from you. We are asking to help us have fun and not make us feel bad if we're playing another character that RNG will give those characters what our mains still don't have.

So in the end - you still have your fun because you aren't losing anything and we have our fun because we get what is long overdue and what we asked before teh game was even released (yeah, there were threads on betaforums + lots of us wrote about in feedback). So it's a win-win situation that both benefit from. How is it not hypocrite that you pretend not to see it?

Artis wrote: »

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

First and foremost, before replying, let alone tagging someone, read what they say. I specifically said that there are character specific achievements and titles and player-specific. A character who a player hasn't completed vma with will not have a Stormproof title. Where did this idea come from?

And yes, it is hypocrite. You want to see achievements of your characters? Go ahead, no one is asking to take that away from you. We are asking to help us have fun and not make us feel bad if we're playing another character that RNG will give those characters what our mains still don't have.

So in the end - you still have your fun because you aren't losing anything and we have our fun because we get what is long overdue and what we asked before teh game was even released (yeah, there were threads on betaforums + lots of us wrote about in feedback). So it's a win-win situation that both benefit from. How is it not hypocrite that you pretend not to see it?

@Artis

I had tagged you because if your petty name calling and what was most of that previous post attempting to belittle me kinda like you just tried again. Name calling is truly petty Pathetic behavior.

Second, I specifically addressed in the post you are referring to about the problems of maiming some achieve te account wide. Much of the small population who cares about this subject would not be happy with what Zos considers an account wide achievement.

People that are actually interested in this will not be happy. People who worked hard to get more worthwhile achievements on multiple characters will get bent it that achievement becomes account wide.

I respect your all into the achievements to the degree you are. Sorry you feel bad playing on a newer alt. That's cool, but I still recommend Zos say no since I doubt you'll be happy unless they permit sharing everything.

BTW, I don't die armor for any character I don't play. I pretty much have all the achievements I've gotten on all characters. So again, the name calling, very much not appropriate.

Have a good day.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

I had tagged you because if your petty name calling and what was most of that previous post attempting to belittle me kinda like you just tried again. Name calling is truly petty Pathetic behavior.

Second, I specifically addressed in the post you are referring to about the problems of maiming some achieve te account wide. Much of the small population who cares about this subject would not be happy with what Zos considers an account wide achievement.

People that are actually interested in this will not be happy. People who worked hard to get more worthwhile achievements on multiple characters will get bent it that achievement becomes account wide.

I respect your all into the achievements to the degree you are. Sorry you feel bad playing on a newer alt. That's cool, but I still recommend Zos say no since I doubt you'll be happy unless they permit sharing everything.

BTW, I don't die armor for any character I don't play. I pretty much have all the achievements I've gotten on all characters. So again, the name calling, very much not appropriate.

Have a good day.

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

You answered 0 of my questions. Why would adding more stuff to the game be bad for anyone?

People who won't be happy? you mean the ones that are perfectly happy with account-wide mounts, pets, etc? They will be perfectly happy with achievements too, once that is introduced.

Worthwhile achievements are done fast. I am talking about GRIND. Those are not worthwhile achievements. It doesn't matter which character you used to fish.

Yes, the name calling is appropriate. because where were you, when they added new levels of undaunted skill line and screwed over everyone who already earned all achievements and could only level those skill lines by pledges? Where was the majority of people who "won't be happy" because they will get "bent"? Oh right, creating threads about making VMA loot tradeable or adding the token system, to "bend" those who farmed for years, 500 runs or something.

So yeah , that's pretty hypocrite to only welcome changes if they improve your particular part of the game, even though that bends others, but not welcome them if they add fun to others. How would that even "bend" them? They will still have their achievements on multiple characters. We are talking about adding a counter on top of that, not to just have 1 achievements table for an account,no. You will still know if 1 particular character got an achievement.

Sinolai wrote: »

BlanketFort wrote: »

Achievements for clearing difficult content with title rewards should not be account-wide.

Why not? you can already use skins and colors achieved form achievement on your lvl 3 noob. Why not to share the achievement and titles too? It just tells you are not a total noob even though you are plaing with lvl 3 character.

Because they show your mastery of playing a certain class/build. The only problem I have with this is why shouldn't be account-wide if I have two magicka sorcs on my account.