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Should Zerg Bombing be removed from the game?
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes, altogether removed.You should take a 50% health penalty if you're standing on top of X amount of players.
Zerging is what makes large scale pvp absolutely awful, considering you can just run through players without getting blocked.
Although removing zergs would probably kill pvp since no one would know how to play any other way.
ESO PVP is supposed to be a strategic war game. Large scale battles is at the root of its design. Zerging is not the problem it's the whole point of the game. I don't understand why sooooo many people don't get this.Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage1 -
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✭Needs to be nerfed big stylethankyourat wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »KingDuncanVII wrote: »Don't give more power to Zergs. Thanks.
Players who can't handle the group dynamics of an MMO could always go back to playing Skyrim. You can solo everything on that game.
What if you can handle the group dynamics but you just don't want too. Group play doesn't give you a chance to really play your class and use all your abilities. The only thing is in group play it always comes down to who has the most people if the game is going to be like that if you outnumbered what's the point of playing. The server can't even handle large group vs large group.
The devs really need to fix the server, its not the players fault for large groups though.
Don't hate the player hate the game
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✭Needs to be nerfed big styleJimbullbee85 wrote: »You should take a 50% health penalty if you're standing on top of X amount of players.
Zerging is what makes large scale pvp absolutely awful, considering you can just run through players without getting blocked.
Although removing zergs would probably kill pvp since no one would know how to play any other way.
ESO PVP is supposed to be a strategic war game. Large scale battles is at the root of its design. Zerging is not the problem it's the whole point of the game. I don't understand why sooooo many people don't get this.
These are the COD mentality players that want to solo an entire army to fulfill their ego.
When vampire mDKs and Sorcs were soloing zergs back then they had no problem with the game.Power Wealth And Influence.1 -
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✭Jimbullbee85 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »KingDuncanVII wrote: »Don't give more power to Zergs. Thanks.
Players who can't handle the group dynamics of an MMO could always go back to playing Skyrim. You can solo everything on that game.
What if you can handle the group dynamics but you just don't want too. Group play doesn't give you a chance to really play your class and use all your abilities. The only thing is in group play it always comes down to who has the most people if the game is going to be like that if you outnumbered what's the point of playing. The server can't even handle large group vs large group.
I've been in a few possies of 6 and overcome groups twice as large. With a good ratio of tanks/healers/dps, a one hitting stealth scout and a good strategy numbers don't count for anything. This is role playing mmo style and is exactly what the game was designed for.
That use to be a thing, but the only way that's possible now is if you have your own bomber and a couple heal bots, and ultimate bomb the larger group. It use to be fun to play solo I remember if I knew how to play and a player didn't he would be dead in a couple seconds. Now everyone is in heavy armor and has 30k plus health. And has acsess to do many snares it's just ridiculous. Just look at cyrodiil whoever has the biggest zerg has the most keeps. The alliance who wins the campaign doesn't have the best players they have the most players, and that's the direction ZoS wants to take their game in0 -
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✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »You should take a 50% health penalty if you're standing on top of X amount of players.
Zerging is what makes large scale pvp absolutely awful, considering you can just run through players without getting blocked.
Although removing zergs would probably kill pvp since no one would know how to play any other way.
ESO PVP is supposed to be a strategic war game. Large scale battles is at the root of its design. Zerging is not the problem it's the whole point of the game. I don't understand why sooooo many people don't get this.
These are the COD mentality players that want to solo an entire army to fulfill their ego.
When vampire mDKs and Sorcs were soloing zergs back then they had no problem with the game.
I don't think it's that. I think it's that group play has lost its meaning. There use to be a time where there were battles all over the map you use to have multiple 15 to 24 man groups taking and fighting at different objectives. Now it's just whole alliance vs whole alliance and whoever has the most population bars is going to win. There's no more strategy to PvP. Ultimately it is ZoS's fault the servers are crap but some of the blame could be on us as well. Why do we as a player base feel like we need to bring 3 full 24 man raids to take a keep (unless it's a dethrone).2 -
Grundiin✭✭Needs to be nerfed big styleIt can get nerfed, dont really care, but please dont remove.Edited by Grundiin on October 27, 2016 6:59AMIt sucks when your at 2nd place in PvP, and your alliance gets all 6 keeps.
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes, altogether removed.Anti_Virus wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »You should take a 50% health penalty if you're standing on top of X amount of players.
Zerging is what makes large scale pvp absolutely awful, considering you can just run through players without getting blocked.
Although removing zergs would probably kill pvp since no one would know how to play any other way.
ESO PVP is supposed to be a strategic war game. Large scale battles is at the root of its design. Zerging is not the problem it's the whole point of the game. I don't understand why sooooo many people don't get this.
These are the COD mentality players that want to solo an entire army to fulfill their ego.
When vampire mDKs and Sorcs were soloing zergs back then they had no problem with the game.
Completely and utterly agree!Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage0 -
Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes, altogether removed.thankyourat wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »KingDuncanVII wrote: »Don't give more power to Zergs. Thanks.
Players who can't handle the group dynamics of an MMO could always go back to playing Skyrim. You can solo everything on that game.
What if you can handle the group dynamics but you just don't want too. Group play doesn't give you a chance to really play your class and use all your abilities. The only thing is in group play it always comes down to who has the most people if the game is going to be like that if you outnumbered what's the point of playing. The server can't even handle large group vs large group.
I've been in a few possies of 6 and overcome groups twice as large. With a good ratio of tanks/healers/dps, a one hitting stealth scout and a good strategy numbers don't count for anything. This is role playing mmo style and is exactly what the game was designed for.
That use to be a thing, but the only way that's possible now is if you have your own bomber and a couple heal bots, and ultimate bomb the larger group. It use to be fun to play solo I remember if I knew how to play and a player didn't he would be dead in a couple seconds. Now everyone is in heavy armor and has 30k plus health. And has acsess to do many snares it's just ridiculous. Just look at cyrodiil whoever has the biggest zerg has the most keeps. The alliance who wins the campaign doesn't have the best players they have the most players, and that's the direction ZoS wants to take their game in
Nope! It's still very possible with a good team that can communicate well. It obviously doesn't work all of the time. We've been out flanked many a time by a smaller group who have wiped us in minutes. Sometimes we might be down on a healer or tank. Can't expect to win every battle even at full strength. All we can do is alter our strategy by observing and admiring the strategy of our enemies when they defeat us.Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage0 -
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✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombednope nope, never going to happen
but we have plenty of cheese if you like:
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✭Needs to be nerfed big stylethankyourat wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »You should take a 50% health penalty if you're standing on top of X amount of players.
Zerging is what makes large scale pvp absolutely awful, considering you can just run through players without getting blocked.
Although removing zergs would probably kill pvp since no one would know how to play any other way.
ESO PVP is supposed to be a strategic war game. Large scale battles is at the root of its design. Zerging is not the problem it's the whole point of the game. I don't understand why sooooo many people don't get this.
These are the COD mentality players that want to solo an entire army to fulfill their ego.
When vampire mDKs and Sorcs were soloing zergs back then they had no problem with the game.
I don't think it's that. I think it's that group play has lost its meaning. There use to be a time where there were battles all over the map you use to have multiple 15 to 24 man groups taking and fighting at different objectives. Now it's just whole alliance vs whole alliance and whoever has the most population bars is going to win. There's no more strategy to PvP. Ultimately it is ZoS's fault the servers are crap but some of the blame could be on us as well. Why do we as a player base feel like we need to bring 3 full 24 man raids to take a keep (unless it's a dethrone).
This. Wheeler and Wrobel need to work together to bring restore pvp to a healthy state.Power Wealth And Influence.1 -
Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage1
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SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »
Thumbless zergling spotted. If you're consistently dying to Proxy & Soultether on a regular basis then your build sucks and your positioning needs work.0 -
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✭Needs to be nerfed big styleAnti_Virus wrote: »
Thumbless zergling spotted. If you're consistently dying to Proxy & Soultether on a regular basis then your build sucks and your positioning needs work.
Lol assume Im a zergling because I have a different opinion eh? A meat head will always be a meat head.
You can have your I win button won't be touched so you can keep stroking your twisted ego.
"Players teaming up in an MMO PVP designed around large scale combat? Why that's outrageous these guys need to play my way wear proc sets and roll behind trees/rocks"
- Brain dead COD player.Edited by Anti_Virus on October 27, 2016 8:14AMPower Wealth And Influence.1 -
Awakatanka✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedIf you nerf my bomb then nerf also All Star Wars wannabee's with there Jesus beam....0
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Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes, altogether removed.Awakatanka wrote: »If you nerf my bomb then nerf also All Star Wars wannabee's with there Jesus beam....
I would say Jesus beam was more of a LOTR thing myself. Gandalf/Galadriel style!Jimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage0 -
Jimbullbee85✭✭✭✭Yes, altogether removed.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Thumbless zergling spotted. If you're consistently dying to Proxy & Soultether on a regular basis then your build sucks and your positioning needs work.
I'd prefer to be called Zergling over a skulking gollum creature hiding opportunistically in a dark hole. "OOOOOO TELVARS, MY PRECIOUS'S" hahJimbullbee, Templar healer battlemage1 -
Hekaterin✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedarkansas_ESO wrote: »What else is a person to do when they're outnumbered 24 to one?
Obviosly sit down and die. All those people want their easy 5 AP! Don't be a bully
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Solus✭✭✭✭Jimbullbee85 wrote: »Should anyone have the power to take out a whole group with one stealth kill? Does anyone think that Zerg Bombing is cheap, nasty, requires very little skill yet is too highly rewarded? Surely the skill behind a stealth kill is escaping the wrath of your victims allies afterwards?
PVP in its current state is a joke anyways.The-Pumpkin-King // Stamblade
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