Should Zerg Bombing be removed from the game?

Jimbullbee85 · October 2016

Yes, altogether removed.

timidobserver wrote: »

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I wonder how it feels to be the only one that voted to completely remove it.

When virtually everyone disagrees with you, does your opinion at all?

It's all a learning experience. Shame theres opportunistic creeps like you on here that try to have their moment of glory at the expense of others. Begone troll.

I'm not trolling. I am just curious if the extreme unpopularity of removing the ability to counter a zerg with something other than another zerg will alter your view or not.

Nope! Wouldn't call it countering either. Especially when it's only the small groups being effected. Some cant get anywhere for running into massive hordes or a zerg bomber. There should be a grenade system for countering large groups not a one man army. I know my opinion isn't popular but I do respect everyone elses and that's enough for me.

Jimbullbee85 · October 2016

Yes, altogether removed.

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

What else is a person to do when they're outnumbered 24 to one?

Find some friends, it's an MMO not a first person shooter.

KingDuncanVII · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

Don't give more power to Zergs. Thanks.

Korah_Eaglecry · October 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

Should anyone have the power to take out a whole group with one stealth kill? Does anyone think that Zerg Bombing is cheap, nasty, requires very little skill yet is too highly rewarded? Surely the skill behind a stealth kill is escaping the wrath of your victims allies afterwards?

You must run with zergs. Get bombed.

If u wanna play skillfully, fight in small groups and take on zergs from the flank. Otherwise, get bombed.

So, Question How small of a group do you have to run? Because I thought 6 was small, but obviously it does not stop other players from getting bombed, I Keep seeing people saying you only get bombed if your in a zerg...no, you get bombed regardless.

What 6 man group are you running with that you get bombed my 6 man with no healer has never got bombed and as a 6 man you have no reason to stack Because you still going to take full damage.

Could repeat that in english this time?

Runkorko · October 2016

Yes, altogether removed.

hrothbern wrote: »

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I wonder how it feels to be the only one that voted to completely remove it.

When virtually everyone disagrees with you, does your opinion at all?

Dont be. Most of the ppl who care about balanced pvp long left. Thats why you have such result on voting. Game is full of kids and zerg lovers. Enjoy.

"Most of the ppl who care about balanced pvp long left"

Do you say implicitly:
"people who stayed... do not care about balance" ???

huh

Yes most ppl who play pvp those days not care about the balance/ judging by vote/ All they want is the best macro and the most op /aka unbalanced/ skill/class.
Is kinda silly to vote YES for zerg and then to speak about balance, dont you think?
English is not my native, so please, dont waste effords to correcrt me.
But hey. if it makes you feel smarter, keep it this way.... i dont mind.
Cheers

Jaronking · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

Should anyone have the power to take out a whole group with one stealth kill? Does anyone think that Zerg Bombing is cheap, nasty, requires very little skill yet is too highly rewarded? Surely the skill behind a stealth kill is escaping the wrath of your victims allies afterwards?

You must run with zergs. Get bombed.

If u wanna play skillfully, fight in small groups and take on zergs from the flank. Otherwise, get bombed.

So, Question How small of a group do you have to run? Because I thought 6 was small, but obviously it does not stop other players from getting bombed, I Keep seeing people saying you only get bombed if your in a zerg...no, you get bombed regardless.

What 6 man group are you running with that you get bombed my 6 man with no healer has never got bombed and as a 6 man you have no reason to stack Because you still going to take full damage.

Could repeat that in english this time?

When you post half sleep and one hand that is English lol.Basically I don't see many 6 man groups get bomb mainly because not moving for to long will get you zerged down.As a 6 man their no real point to stack unless going through a breach your going to take full damage by a enemy player AOe .

Jimbullbee85 · October 2016

Yes, altogether removed.

KingDuncanVII wrote: »

Don't give more power to Zergs. Thanks.

Players who can't handle the group dynamics of an MMO could always go back to playing Skyrim. You can solo everything on that game.

arkansas_ESO · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

What else is a person to do when they're outnumbered 24 to one?

Wait for your own zerg to back you up. If you have noticed in PS4 Thornblade every side has zergs, everyone complains about them but every faction has them Just depends on how many players are online and how many players are in that map, you really want to control the population, limit players in a map.

What if I don't want to zerg? If I'm not meant to PVP solo or in a small group, then why let me into Cyrodiil when I'm not in a group of 15+ players?

Danksta · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

If they're going to remove zerg bombing they should do it by removing zergs.

Danksta · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Dont zerg and you wont get bombed.

Its that simple.

Mostly true, but about a week ago I got bombed as I was about to walk through an outpost door that was being repaired. Bam!! Bombed! But I was thoroughly impressed. He insta-killed me on a character with max resistances and over 2k crit resist.

thankyourat · October 2016

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

KingDuncanVII wrote: »

Don't give more power to Zergs. Thanks.

Players who can't handle the group dynamics of an MMO could always go back to playing Skyrim. You can solo everything on that game.

What if you can handle the group dynamics but you just don't want too. Group play doesn't give you a chance to really play your class and use all your abilities. The only thing is in group play it always comes down to who has the most people if the game is going to be like that if you outnumbered what's the point of playing. The server can't even handle large group vs large group.

Jaronking · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

What else is a person to do when they're outnumbered 24 to one?

Wait for your own zerg to back you up. If you have noticed in PS4 Thornblade every side has zergs, everyone complains about them but every faction has them Just depends on how many players are online and how many players are in that map, you really want to control the population, limit players in a map.

What if I don't want to zerg? If I'm not meant to PVP solo or in a small group, then why let me into Cyrodiil when I'm not in a group of 15+ players?

Update 13 patch notes You may no longer enter Cyrodill unless you are in a group of 15 or more.

AOE caps When you hit more than 16 people with a AOE they no longer take any damage.

Bossdonut · October 2016

You should take a 50% health penalty if you're standing on top of X amount of players.

Zerging is what makes large scale pvp absolutely awful, considering you can just run through players without getting blocked.

Although removing zergs would probably kill pvp since no one would know how to play any other way.

Kram8ion · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

If it's done well then I'll tip my hat
Timing is crucial btw I don't have build to do it

Lylith · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

already nerfed, leave it alone.

WalksonGraves · October 2016

That sounds like the most fun anyone has had in pvp. Honestly if you take out a group in pvp solo you should get a parade not a nerf.

soll · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

*proxi det pressed*

wom-woom-wooom...

dem0n1k · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

I've never actually been zerg-bombed... but I've been steamrollered by zergs many times. Zergs are the problem, not the anti-zerg measures. When I do roll with a group... we take care to go stealth & to keep moving.

Anti_Virus · October 2016

Needs to be nerfed big style

Sallington wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Lol zerg bombing is just an I win button for 1vXers

If you really hate Zerging in this game then leave the game and find something else.

I honestly can't tell if this is you being serious or not.

Also, "Zerg Bombing" is a terrible name for a Proxy/VD/Tether Combo. If that many people are getting killed within the radius of a single Soul Tether, then you need to GTFO because your group is what's been wrong with PvP for a long time.

Lul, saltly pvper detected, hit cloak walk into a group and faceroll them. Punishing players for doing what pvp was build for is brain dead stupid.

This game is based around AvAvA combat if you don't like it go play other games.

You make a thread QQing about nightblades bombing ball groups, and I'm the salty one?

And what about AvAvA means people need to stack 12-20 people on top of each other?

Lol wat? I didn't make the thread I just commented on it.

And yeah AvAvA can be 30v30v30, seriously why did you buy this game if you hated it? You were literally advertised that PVP would be large scale battles.

You can always play a different MMO with small scale until battlegrounds arrive, but don't force a game mode that was designed around large scale to fit what YOU want.

Anti_Virus · October 2016

Needs to be nerfed big style

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

What else is a person to do when they're outnumbered 24 to one?

Find some friends, it's an MMO not a first person shooter.

Thank you, PVP is a warzone, You can't expect to solo and army in real life so why try to do that in a video game ? Built around army vs army combat.

Anti_Virus · October 2016

Needs to be nerfed big style

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

What else is a person to do when they're outnumbered 24 to one?

Wait for your own zerg to back you up. If you have noticed in PS4 Thornblade every side has zergs, everyone complains about them but every faction has them Just depends on how many players are online and how many players are in that map, you really want to control the population, limit players in a map.

What if I don't want to zerg? If I'm not meant to PVP solo or in a small group, then why let me into Cyrodiil when I'm not in a group of 15+ players?

You can solo play or small group, but the game isn't designed to be played that way, if you are really good player you can overcome that problem.

But don't complain when you get killed by a zerg the game is built around that.

The United states and China is at war
Chinese population: 1.3 billion
US population: 325 million

Are you going to try and solo the Chinese army then complain because they outnumbered you in a war?

SublimeSparo · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

Honestly if you still die to zerg bombs it's a L2P issue, more specifically a L2B issue.
Counters to bombs-

The big one first- Block, i mean really, if you are stacked on a usual bomb target just hold block and voila
Impen/shields
Spread out- If you are squishy as *** and standing on flag and are for some reason unable to hold block, keep your shields up or wear some impen then don't stack up and be that guy/girl that blows up your own team
Healing Springing- Allocate a healer to just keep your zerg stacked in healing springs

ColoredScreams · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

If your zerg gets bombed, there is a 95% chance you all deserved it. There are counters to proxybombers: radiant magelight, not stacking on crown etc.. learn them.

Clarkieson · October 2016

Simple solution, end zergs by introducing friendly fire. No need for zerg bombs.

SublimeSparo · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

Clarkieson wrote: »

Simple solution, end zergs by introducing friendly fire. No need for zerg bombs.

Zerg bombs technically are friendly fire. You kill your teammates with vicious death.

Clarkieson · October 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Clarkieson wrote: »

Simple solution, end zergs by introducing friendly fire. No need for zerg bombs.

Zerg bombs technically are friendly fire. You kill your teammates with vicious death.

But you need an enemy to kill something in order for vicious death to proc. What if 200 players satcked could just kill their friends with just misplaced attacks? Would that not discourage zergs?

ArchMikem · October 2016

Needs to be nerfed big style

Thats one hell of a landslide result.

zuto40 · October 2016

Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed

Wait people still play bombers? Lol

Jimbullbee85 · October 2016

Yes, altogether removed.

Well I can definately see where the general opinion is Haha. Guess I'll just have to make sure my guild mates are tanked up and ready for you sneaky buggers with every templar spamming cleansing ritual in your skulking little hidy holes. Gonna muster the possy and get hunting.

Jimbullbee85 · October 2016

Yes, altogether removed.

thankyourat wrote: »

Jimbullbee85 wrote: »

KingDuncanVII wrote: »

Don't give more power to Zergs. Thanks.

Players who can't handle the group dynamics of an MMO could always go back to playing Skyrim. You can solo everything on that game.

What if you can handle the group dynamics but you just don't want too. Group play doesn't give you a chance to really play your class and use all your abilities. The only thing is in group play it always comes down to who has the most people if the game is going to be like that if you outnumbered what's the point of playing. The server can't even handle large group vs large group.

I've been in a few possies of 6 and overcome groups twice as large. With a good ratio of tanks/healers/dps, a one hitting stealth scout and a good strategy numbers don't count for anything. This is role playing mmo style and is exactly what the game was designed for.