AlnilamE wrote: »

No.

The most annoying people in the world

Soafee wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

I hope they do not making mount upgrades account wide as it would be a huge mistake to do so. I also really don't care about the response my post will get from lazy players.

Lazy? lol

This whole "I worked for what I have so you have to work for it as well" is freaking old

It's also just more convenient to change the current mount system. Even if they don't make it account wide, they could allow to upgrade more than one point per day. 180 days per character is pretty ridiculous, but ZOS wants people to buy the mount speed upgrades out of the crown store. It would be more fair if they let you upgrade ten points per day, that way it is the exact same as the crown store riding lessons and people buy from the crown store out of convenience instead of a feeling of necessity.

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

Cat Among the Pigeons - How many would you buy if they were 100 crowns for 10 lessons?

I might be MORE tempted to buy them, but I'm not certain if I would. I really don't like buying stuff like that from the crown store; vanity pets and costumes are one thing, but I think mount speeds, appearance changes, and stuff like that should be more accessible in game vs. the crown store.

I just don't play new characters until they've maxed out the Riding speed bonus - they just aren't Cyrodiil ready. You could of course go pvp in IC, which is what I've started doing if I want a pvp fix on newbie characters. You're at a disadvantage for a lot of reasons, but its better than nothing. Either way 2 months of feeding horses is a lot more reasonable to me than paying 100 dollars to upgrade a horse, or whatever nonsense it is they're asking. I'd rather fund something more useful, fun or interesting myself. I purposefully try not to pay for things which bother me on some level. This is why I haven't bought the Harlequin set. In a way it punishes me because I like to be able to craft anything, but from my perspective I believe they are harming crafters by doing this. It is a form of 'pay 2 win' that takes advantage of the crafting community. I see how people might see it otherwise, but in this they are wrong. I am not a pure crafter, so it doesn't directly effect me, but for players who wish to focus on the crafting and sales side of the game I think it is wrong to ask them to buy motifs. If they had a DLC expansion they needed to buy, that INCLUDED motifs you would earn, that is a different story, and I think worthy of something they would pay. Its a small distinction I realize, but I think an important one.

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

I really want it to happen really. but considering the fat, steady cash income they get from crown mount training upgrades. I don't see it happening ever.

Unless I'm wrong. If those things in the crown store aren't selling at all and they want to remove them to make space for better crown store sales (smart suggestion here ZOS) then yes, in that case it might happen. But chances are slim.

I have seven characters with fully leveled riding skills and I've never bought a crown lesson.

Rouven wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Will never happen. Crown riding lessons generate too much revenue. Do what the rest of us did and start feeding. If you are impatient, buy crowns. Just got my 8th horse maxed out and will get 9 and 10 this month. About to make 2 new alts to start feeding so I can play them in 3 months. haha

Out of curiosity, when they changed it from being tied to a mount to being for the character - how did players react to that?

Do you find it fun the way it is right now? Could it be made better while keeping revenue options and not alienating long time players?

I liked it when they changed it, because I could have it all on one horse. When I started playing, I didn't get the Imperial Edition because I never used horses in Oblivion/Skyrim and thought they would be as useless in ESO. Then I realized that if I wanted to keep up with people for group events, particularly in Cyrodiil, I needed a horse.

I saved up for the 42k horse that came with 10 inventory slots, because that was the most dear stat to me. Then I used my 50 "feedings" to max out inventory.

Then I went on to my alts as I started playing them. On my Templar, I actually got the speed horse and split the stats. Then I regretted the lack of inventory.

So when they changed it (because they needed to make Crown Store mounts feasible - I mean, who's going to buy a mount that looks super cool but needs to be trained from the ground up?), I was able to start leveling speed and then finally stamina.

The thing is, you don't NEED a maxed out horse. You need to decide what your priority is. Is it speed? Then you'll start seeing a difference after 10 days. Is it inventory? That's a visible increase each time. Stamina? That's a bit harder to see, and it's mostly useful in Cyrodiil anyway.

But yeah. If they make horse skills account wide, they might as well just throw the whole thing out the window and just max out all horses out of the box. Because there will be no point in the mechanic at all.

Rouven wrote: »

For what it's worth my feedback as a new player (3 weeks). The system, as I experience it now, is simply boring and tedious. I guess it used to be a bit more "immersive" as in feeding the animal (from what I read) - now all that's left is 180 times clicking a button on a 20 hour countdown with no noticeable impact. Maybe my sense are not fine enough, but I can't feel the wind in my hair after a 1% speed increase - I guess I should re-visit that in a little while with another character and be more frustrated.

Not sure if making it account wide will improve this much, other than limiting the mundane experience to a one time deal.

I don't pvp and I am sure there are factors I am missing - but would it make sense to simply cut the training by a factor of 10?

Instead of 60 times make it 6 training sessions per category (for 10 times the price). I might "feel" the 10% speed increase and be more satisfied with it plus the store offer can stay as it is as well (again cutting it to 1 session instead of 10).

Other than that I will keep on logging in to every character I'm planning on leveling, run/ride over to the stable, wait for the NPC to load and then click a button.

^^^This @ZOS_GinaBruno . Take it to the devs and see if it flys. Here's a person that's new to the game and sees the flawed system. Not only that, but he/she is giving a solution. Let's make it so!

Soafee wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

I hope they do not making mount upgrades account wide as it would be a huge mistake to do so. I also really don't care about the response my post will get from lazy players.

Lazy? lol

This whole "I worked for what I have so you have to work for it as well" is freaking old

So is this topic... use search, realize this has been brought up a few dozen times.

I would be happy if I could do puchase one feeding in each category so that maxing a horse takes 2 months instead of a mind numbing 6.

I have 4 characters that I made when they increased character slots to 12. I just got speed and stam maxed on them 5 days ago. I feel I can now start to play them after waiting 4 months to get those two things maxed. The speed is so slow and it's so easy to get dehorsed at the beginning that I can't stand playing them until speed is at least 50 and stam at 30. That's almost 3 months to be able to play a new character which sucks.

I'd be okay with gutting the Reinforced CP passive in The Steed and replacing it with a 40% reduction in mount training cooldown. That would let you train twice a day, but make it something you earn in game.

The Steed mundus increases run speed so it would make sense for the constellation to have one actual speed-related perk.

No. L2Train.