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Should Zerg Bombing be removed from the game?
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Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed
Am on Xbox and you don't have to stack on the flag you can spread out and still take it the radius of the flag is actually kinda large.Since we played mainly small scale really haven't been bomb has some of us been mixed in with pugs and got bombed yea but never the whole group and when some of us get bombed we bagged the one who died lol.katiesmith12341 wrote: »katiesmith12341 wrote: »mr_wazzabi wrote: »Jimbullbee85 wrote: »Should anyone have the power to take out a whole group with one stealth kill? Does anyone think that Zerg Bombing is cheap, nasty, requires very little skill yet is too highly rewarded? Surely the skill behind a stealth kill is escaping the wrath of your victims allies afterwards?
You must run with zergs. Get bombed.
If u wanna play skillfully, fight in small groups and take on zergs from the flank. Otherwise, get bombed.
So, Question How small of a group do you have to run? Because I thought 6 was small, but obviously it does not stop other players from getting bombed, I Keep seeing people saying you only get bombed if your in a zerg...no, you get bombed regardless.
What 6 man group are you running with that you get bombed my 6 man with no healer has never got bombed and as a 6 man you have no reason to stack Because you still going to take full damage.
Normally if your taking a farm with a small group or a lodging your bombed there because everyone gathers in the middle, you say your group has never got bombed? what server are you on? i'm pretty sure everyone has experienced it at least once or twice!2 -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedZerg bombing is fine, but Vicious Death needs to be changed. It's horribly stupid game design than I should be killed instantly because some damn scrubs standing next to me got two-shot by Soul Tether > Sap.0 -
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✭✭Sorry not sorry you're having trouble surviving in the safety of your zerg.-
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CPTRutt✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedZerg Bombing is an art. Especially with everyone running impen and heavy armor. Many have tried to be bomber. Many have failed. Few have been successful. I am one of those lucky few and can tell you it isnt as easy as it seems. If you mess up one part of the timing... Boom... you killed nobody and just look like a pug. Besides bombing is better than running in a giant ZergvZerg battle.50 Stam DK
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This pol is like asking: Shall light attacks be removed? OP didn´t think this one through2 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Lol zerg bombing is just an I win button for 1vXers
If you really hate Zerging in this game then leave the game and find something else.
I honestly can't tell if this is you being serious or not.
Also, "Zerg Bombing" is a terrible name for a Proxy/VD/Tether Combo. If that many people are getting killed within the radius of a single Soul Tether, then you need to GTFO because your group is what's been wrong with PvP for a long time.Edited by Sallington on October 26, 2016 3:32PMDaggerfall Covenant
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Zerg bombing is fine, but Vicious Death needs to be changed. It's horribly stupid game design than I should be killed instantly because some damn scrubs standing next to me got two-shot by Soul Tether > Sap.
VD is fine. 10/10 builds with VD (talking about thos magblade with proxy-->soul teather combo) will most likely die instant if they fail to bomb a zerg. l2p or git gut.1 -
Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Needs to be nerfed big styleSallington wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Lol zerg bombing is just an I win button for 1vXers
If you really hate Zerging in this game then leave the game and find something else.
I honestly can't tell if this is you being serious or not.
Also, "Zerg Bombing" is a terrible name for a Proxy/VD/Tether Combo. If that many people are getting killed within the radius of a single Soul Tether, then you need to GTFO because your group is what's been wrong with PvP for a long time.
Lul, saltly pvper detected, hit cloak walk into a group and faceroll them. Punishing players for doing what pvp was build for is brain dead stupid.
This game is based around AvAvA combat if you don't like it go play other games.Edited by Anti_Virus on October 26, 2016 3:53PMPower Wealth And Influence.0 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm not voting because there is no option to make zerg bombing skillful, its just to easy right now for a VD nightblade to blow up massive amounts of people. There absolutely needs to be a counter to the zerg, but that counter used to be a well organized group playing flawlessly, now its just cloak/prox/tether.1 -
Magic_Doogies✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedPal if you got no problem with people in PVP winning keeps soley by grouping up in 30+ groups with no strategy and overwhelming and wiping out smaller groups you should have no issues with solo gankers coming in and blowing them up with proc Vicious Death and the likes.
That's called balance.
If you are that concerned about being nuked in a zerg than perhaps your group should be a bit smarter and put down caltrops and have offshoot sentries to make sure nobody is behind you.Edited by Magic_Doogies on October 26, 2016 4:02PM1 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Lol zerg bombing is just an I win button for 1vXers
If you really hate Zerging in this game then leave the game and find something else.
I honestly can't tell if this is you being serious or not.
Also, "Zerg Bombing" is a terrible name for a Proxy/VD/Tether Combo. If that many people are getting killed within the radius of a single Soul Tether, then you need to GTFO because your group is what's been wrong with PvP for a long time.
Lul, saltly pvper detected, hit cloak walk into a group and faceroll them. Punishing players for doing what pvp was build for is brain dead stupid.
This game is based around AvAvA combat if you don't like it go play other games.
AvAvA doesn't mean stack in ball though and spam aoe's. Those are the only people being punished. Patch after patch they make it harder for me to play solo to were sometimes I'm forced to run in a group now, or maybe I just have to switch my character over to stamina. And while I don't bomb on my magblade if someone wants to bomb the snare and root spammers who gap close and light attack me to death well honestly I'm all for it. What's the point of sending 15 people after me when I'm all alone. Zerging is way too strong to were you can't even run away from them so if there is one option to win a outnumbered fight why get rid of it?0 -
Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Needs to be nerfed big stylethankyourat wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Lol zerg bombing is just an I win button for 1vXers
If you really hate Zerging in this game then leave the game and find something else.
I honestly can't tell if this is you being serious or not.
Also, "Zerg Bombing" is a terrible name for a Proxy/VD/Tether Combo. If that many people are getting killed within the radius of a single Soul Tether, then you need to GTFO because your group is what's been wrong with PvP for a long time.
Lul, saltly pvper detected, hit cloak walk into a group and faceroll them. Punishing players for doing what pvp was build for is brain dead stupid.
This game is based around AvAvA combat if you don't like it go play other games.
AvAvA doesn't mean stack in ball though and spam aoe's. Those are the only people being punished. Patch after patch they make it harder for me to play solo to were sometimes I'm forced to run in a group now, or maybe I just have to switch my character over to stamina. And while I don't bomb on my magblade if someone wants to bomb the snare and root spammers who gap close and light attack me to death well honestly I'm all for it. What's the point of sending 15 people after me when I'm all alone. Zerging is way too strong to were you can't even run away from them so if there is one option to win a outnumbered fight why get rid of it?
Well first we need to identify what a zerg is, to most 1vXers if you have more than one person in a group that a zerg lol.
I play with 7 players( 8 player group) does my oh so scary zerg ruin the game? Im all for bombing builds but they should he super easy to execute like thay are right now.
I respect the solo players ( I solo play when guild memebers are off) but trying to make a game built around large scale into small scale doen't really work. Hopefully when battlegrounds arrive small scale can be a thing in pvp.Power Wealth And Influence.0 -
Myerscod✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombed"... Zerg Bombing is cheap, nasty, requires very little skill yet is too highly rewarded?"
And being part of a Zerg requires tonnes of skill yes?2 -
Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Needs to be nerfed big style"... Zerg Bombing is cheap, nasty, requires very little skill yet is too highly rewarded?"
And being part of a Zerg requires tonnes of skill yes?
Yes for bolded,
No for the second part, having an "I win button" against a tactic that the game is built around and you (and I )don't like is crazy.
Also are you saying that dueling and 1xVing is 'skilled?'
Edited by Anti_Virus on October 26, 2016 4:34PMPower Wealth And Influence.0 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Lol zerg bombing is just an I win button for 1vXers
If you really hate Zerging in this game then leave the game and find something else.
I honestly can't tell if this is you being serious or not.
Also, "Zerg Bombing" is a terrible name for a Proxy/VD/Tether Combo. If that many people are getting killed within the radius of a single Soul Tether, then you need to GTFO because your group is what's been wrong with PvP for a long time.
Lul, saltly pvper detected, hit cloak walk into a group and faceroll them. Punishing players for doing what pvp was build for is brain dead stupid.
This game is based around AvAvA combat if you don't like it go play other games.
You make a thread QQing about nightblades bombing ball groups, and I'm the salty one?
And what about AvAvA means people need to stack 12-20 people on top of each other?Daggerfall Covenant
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Myerscod✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedAnti_Virus wrote: »"... Zerg Bombing is cheap, nasty, requires very little skill yet is too highly rewarded?"
And being part of a Zerg requires tonnes of skill yes?
Yes for bolded,
No for the second part, having an "I win button" against a tactic that the game is built around and you (and I )don't like is crazy.
Also are you saying that dueling and 1xVing is 'skilled?'
The game (pvp) is built for Zerg vs Zerg. You don't see people bombing when it's 20 v 20 because everyone is on guard and fighting. If 20 people standing round at a spawn or flag get 'bombed' by 1 or 2 people then that requires a lot of skill and planning on the 1 or 2's part and it's the 20 groups fault.
This game requires skill to play. That skill requirement being good at the 'rock, paper & scissors' aspect of working out how to beat your opponent and having quicker reaction times than your opponent. Want to avoid being bombed whilst zerging? Spread out.1 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, altogether removed.Cyro turns to sh/y WoW WSG fight in the midle. Good reason to not come bck. Stil have little hoppe.0 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, altogether removed.timidobserver wrote: »I wonder how it feels to be the only one that voted to completely remove it.
When virtually everyone disagrees with you, does your opinion at all?
Dont be. Most of the ppl who care about balanced pvp long left. Thats why you have such result on voting. Game is full of kids and zerg lovers. Enjoy.0 -
hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedrunkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I wonder how it feels to be the only one that voted to completely remove it.
When virtually everyone disagrees with you, does your opinion at all?
Dont be. Most of the ppl who care about balanced pvp long left. Thats why you have such result on voting. Game is full of kids and zerg lovers. Enjoy.
"Most of the ppl who care about balanced pvp long left"
Do you say implicitly:
"people who stayed... do not care about balance" ???
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bryanhaas✭✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedZoS did say play how you want. I don't bomb but it does take skill, everything has to be timed just right or no workie.PS4 NA AD GM formerly known as GM of "The Children of the Void"
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Iselin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭One of my favorite memories of Cyrodiil was the day 2 of us caught a bomb group taking a short break standing right on top of a resource flag after taking it. We stealthily got within ballista range, whiped out our cold fire ballistas and, presto, instantly dead bomb group... ah, the memories! 1 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Dont zerg and you wont get bombed.
Its that simple.
This isn't true. I saw a bomber take out 1 person at a resource flag, then the same bomber killed 2 people later on. They really don't care who they bomb. If you look like an easy target they'll go for it.0 -
Chuga_Rei✭✭✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedThey have time and time again significantly neutered small groups or solo players ability to outplay large groups. Sadly this mentality is what is doing the most damage to pvp.MAIN: Subtomik |DC| Templar| Grand Overlord| Magicka since release(GET RID OF RD and give me back blinding flashes!)
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✭✭✭✭✭Just imagine if there were no AOE caps. Even though public opinion sided strongly with the removal of AOE caps, the crying in this very thread shows why they are still in the game.
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✭✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedI guess its safe to say the community has spoken1 -
alephthiago✭✭✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedDo you have any idea how difficult is to pull a successfull bomb when everyone is using heavy armor and impen?
It just doesnt happen that often anymore, i dont even remember the last time i got bombed.Walks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »REMOVE PVP.
As a long-time PVPer, and one that is disgusted with how Cyrodiil is right now, I am almost ready to agree with you.1 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nope, it's fun wether you're a bomber or the bombedIf people are lame enough to run around in zergclusters using mindless tactics as spamming one aoe skill2win....they deserve to be killed by an even lamer tactic. Good stuffs.
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