Rohamad_Ali wrote: »That is possible in one two seconds because most is proc sets . When I see 3 light attacks , a heavy in one second ,and no gap closer , ya that's not normal or a game macro slice .That's what I look for In shady death recaps and I've seen it .
You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
Judas Helviaryn wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
This. There is always a counter, we're just part of the gimme culture where everyone complains when things don't automatically go their way.
People are going to gravitate towards whatever the most efficient method is. If it's not cheating, I don't care. At that point, it's a challenge to beat their proc build.
That's fine with me, I think it's fun.
sirrmattus wrote: »ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Cherryblossom wrote: »Why wasn't you wearing Heavy armour!ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »Cherryblossom wrote: »Why wasn't you wearing Heavy armour!
This, and have at least 27K health is the way to go in PvP right now. the damage output is a little high these days.
Have you tried playing a magick sorcerer in heavy armor? Its worse than playing in light. Magick sorc doesnt have enough burst damage output to compete, your just gona last a few seconds longer but never kill anything
People still play Magicka Sorcerer in PvP? I would have thought the would have re-rolled to another class or re-spec'ed to stamina by now.
Some of us still have some pride in our skill. So we choose to go against the grain of the meta and play hard ball, unfortunately we are just shooting ourselves in the foot.
sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
This. There is always a counter, we're just part of the gimme culture where everyone complains when things don't automatically go their way.
People are going to gravitate towards whatever the most efficient method is. If it's not cheating, I don't care. At that point, it's a challenge to beat their proc build.
That's fine with me, I think it's fun.
Its not fun. The only counter is a hi healing recieved healing/damage mitigation build that cant kill anything. So you have 3 different people in cyrodil as of now. You have the Proc sets/Damage Takers/The old pvprs
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Cherryblossom wrote: »Why wasn't you wearing Heavy armour!ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »Cherryblossom wrote: »Why wasn't you wearing Heavy armour!
This, and have at least 27K health is the way to go in PvP right now. the damage output is a little high these days.
Have you tried playing a magick sorcerer in heavy armor? Its worse than playing in light. Magick sorc doesnt have enough burst damage output to compete, your just gona last a few seconds longer but never kill anything
People still play Magicka Sorcerer in PvP? I would have thought the would have re-rolled to another class or re-spec'ed to stamina by now.
Some of us still have some pride in our skill. So we choose to go against the grain of the meta and play hard ball, unfortunately we are just shooting ourselves in the foot.
This is truth . I went on my old account on a dead PvP server last week just to remind myself how easy stam was and why I got tired of it . I held resources solo for two hours killing a dozen people with no effort on bow . There was no challenge at all . I was not even using a proc set .
When I got back on my new toon , every fight was hard mode again . I fought a Templar one on one and it took a couple minute to win . Was very fun , the fight could have gone either way because magic Templar is tough . This is PvP I enjoy . Not no scope sniper cod fight one button kill sprees .
sirrmattus wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
there is no logic behind this. how can you "l2p" "git gud" against something that frankly kills you instantly. The only people that have the audacity to defend sets like this are the ones who need to 'l2p' and 'git gud' because they werent killing anyone before 1T and now all the sudden theyre KR is 5:1. Dont scrub me, scrub
Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
This. There is always a counter, we're just part of the gimme culture where everyone complains when things don't automatically go their way.
People are going to gravitate towards whatever the most efficient method is. If it's not cheating, I don't care. At that point, it's a challenge to beat their proc build.
That's fine with me, I think it's fun.
Its not fun. The only counter is a hi healing recieved healing/damage mitigation build that cant kill anything. So you have 3 different people in cyrodil as of now. You have the Proc sets/Damage Takers/The old pvprs
Perhaps you're playing the wrong game then. I see you flaming others in this thread. If you spent more time working on your builds and practicing, than you did throwing tantrums, perhaps this wouldn't be an issue.
ZOS doesn't need to hand you everything.
I have no problem with these build combinations, they're all beatable.
Whether you can figure it out or not is your own personal issue.
sirrmattus wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
there is no logic behind this. how can you "l2p" "git gud" against something that frankly kills you instantly. The only people that have the audacity to defend sets like this are the ones who need to 'l2p' and 'git gud' because they werent killing anyone before 1T and now all the sudden theyre KR is 5:1. Dont scrub me, scrub
What hell are you talking about? Viper, velidreth, red mountain etc are in the game since way back 1T.
Of course those sets kills you, weapon and class skills as well in case you didn't know. This is the way you learn how to counter them. Simple and plain truth. Get out there, learn a few new builds and try to learn how to counter them, that's it.
We'll never have balance, it's impossible, we just need to find out whats the new trend and learn how to counter it. As I said there is plenty ways to counter proc sets, you just need to open your mind a little bit and put them on your rotation. The problem is that people are to lazy to realize that the game is always moving, online pvp games keep changing and updating all the time and you also need to update your stuff (gameplay, gear, etc) in order to counter the new trends, and this is the magic of online mmorpg games.
sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
This. There is always a counter, we're just part of the gimme culture where everyone complains when things don't automatically go their way.
People are going to gravitate towards whatever the most efficient method is. If it's not cheating, I don't care. At that point, it's a challenge to beat their proc build.
That's fine with me, I think it's fun.
Its not fun. The only counter is a hi healing recieved healing/damage mitigation build that cant kill anything. So you have 3 different people in cyrodil as of now. You have the Proc sets/Damage Takers/The old pvprs
Perhaps you're playing the wrong game then. I see you flaming others in this thread. If you spent more time working on your builds and practicing, than you did throwing tantrums, perhaps this wouldn't be an issue.
ZOS doesn't need to hand you everything.
I have no problem with these build combinations, they're all beatable.
Whether you can figure it out or not is your own personal issue.
How am i flaming anyone? Dude ive played this game since 2014, Ive been part of completing the hardest content in the game with very good people in company. I have enjoyed pvp for a very long time with great success, don't say i need to spend more time practicing, you cant practice against RNG
Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
This. There is always a counter, we're just part of the gimme culture where everyone complains when things don't automatically go their way.
People are going to gravitate towards whatever the most efficient method is. If it's not cheating, I don't care. At that point, it's a challenge to beat their proc build.
That's fine with me, I think it's fun.
Its not fun. The only counter is a hi healing recieved healing/damage mitigation build that cant kill anything. So you have 3 different people in cyrodil as of now. You have the Proc sets/Damage Takers/The old pvprs
Perhaps you're playing the wrong game then. I see you flaming others in this thread. If you spent more time working on your builds and practicing, than you did throwing tantrums, perhaps this wouldn't be an issue.
ZOS doesn't need to hand you everything.
I have no problem with these build combinations, they're all beatable.
Whether you can figure it out or not is your own personal issue.
How am i flaming anyone? Dude ive played this game since 2014, Ive been part of completing the hardest content in the game with very good people in company. I have enjoyed pvp for a very long time with great success, don't say i need to spend more time practicing, you cant practice against RNG
And this is why you will never figure it out.
https://youtu.be/C5P5eQiKNQssirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »You know, when you are constantly kille by something, you don't come and complain in the forum about it, you go and l2p, git gud and try to counter it. There is a lot of ways to counter proc sets like shields for magicka and dodge rolls/major evasion for staminas.
This is why we can't have nice things, people complains literally about everything. For the eight.
This. There is always a counter, we're just part of the gimme culture where everyone complains when things don't automatically go their way.
People are going to gravitate towards whatever the most efficient method is. If it's not cheating, I don't care. At that point, it's a challenge to beat their proc build.
That's fine with me, I think it's fun.
Its not fun. The only counter is a hi healing recieved healing/damage mitigation build that cant kill anything. So you have 3 different people in cyrodil as of now. You have the Proc sets/Damage Takers/The old pvprs
Perhaps you're playing the wrong game then. I see you flaming others in this thread. If you spent more time working on your builds and practicing, than you did throwing tantrums, perhaps this wouldn't be an issue.
ZOS doesn't need to hand you everything.
I have no problem with these build combinations, they're all beatable.
Whether you can figure it out or not is your own personal issue.
How am i flaming anyone? Dude ive played this game since 2014, Ive been part of completing the hardest content in the game with very good people in company. I have enjoyed pvp for a very long time with great success, don't say i need to spend more time practicing, you cant practice against RNG
And this is why you will never figure it out.
this is what you remind me of.https://youtu.be/C5P5eQiKNQs
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Stamina poisons crafted are very nasty while rooted . You can try those too and hold them down with strongest roots nares and stuns to maximize the poison time .
sirrmattus wrote: »@Judas Helviaryn
im in the na server, we can duel anytime you want. See if ur all talk or actually have some skill
Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »@Judas Helviaryn
im in the na server, we can duel anytime you want. See if ur all talk or actually have some skill
Oh sure, as soon as I tell you my ping doesn't go under 700, you want to have a slapfight to prove who's right.
Listen buddy, I could have gone the "lel git gud l2p gg no re" route, and left it at that.
I didn't.
Instead, I've been trying to show you that it is possible to beat these builds, it just takes solid building of your own, as well as practice against these individual builds, exclusively.
Am I going to teach you how? No. Otherwise you'll just be relying on people to build and practice for you.
Take it or leave it, if I see you ingame, I'll happily duel you. But it'll be for practice, not pride.
sirrmattus wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Stamina poisons crafted are very nasty while rooted . You can try those too and hold them down with strongest roots nares and stuns to maximize the poison time .
ye spend 100's of thousands of gold on vitality potions and various types of poisons. p2w
sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »@Judas Helviaryn
im in the na server, we can duel anytime you want. See if ur all talk or actually have some skill
Oh sure, as soon as I tell you my ping doesn't go under 700, you want to have a slapfight to prove who's right.
Listen buddy, I could have gone the "lel git gud l2p gg no re" route, and left it at that.
I didn't.
Instead, I've been trying to show you that it is possible to beat these builds, it just takes solid building of your own, as well as practice against these individual builds, exclusively.
Am I going to teach you how? No. Otherwise you'll just be relying on people to build and practice for you.
Take it or leave it, if I see you ingame, I'll happily duel you. But it'll be for practice, not pride.
You contradicting yourself and showing us all. first you say you have no problem with the strongest meta builds in the game with your satellite 700ping service, then you say you cant duel because your satellite 700ping service and it would be an injustice to you.
Not only that but you keep saying how you are trying to help by providing no help. Yes of course these guys can be beaten, ive beaten plenty of them, thats not the issue, the issue is that these sets do not have a place in open world pvp or dueling for that matter. These sets are meant for PVE DD and should stay that way.
Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »@Judas Helviaryn
im in the na server, we can duel anytime you want. See if ur all talk or actually have some skill
Oh sure, as soon as I tell you my ping doesn't go under 700, you want to have a slapfight to prove who's right.
Listen buddy, I could have gone the "lel git gud l2p gg no re" route, and left it at that.
I didn't.
Instead, I've been trying to show you that it is possible to beat these builds, it just takes solid building of your own, as well as practice against these individual builds, exclusively.
Am I going to teach you how? No. Otherwise you'll just be relying on people to build and practice for you.
Take it or leave it, if I see you ingame, I'll happily duel you. But it'll be for practice, not pride.
You contradicting yourself and showing us all. first you say you have no problem with the strongest meta builds in the game with your satellite 700ping service, then you say you cant duel because your satellite 700ping service and it would be an injustice to you.
Not only that but you keep saying how you are trying to help by providing no help. Yes of course these guys can be beaten, ive beaten plenty of them, thats not the issue, the issue is that these sets do not have a place in open world pvp or dueling for that matter. These sets are meant for PVE DD and should stay that way.
Funny, didn't you say in a previous post that these proc builds that "kill you instantly" were impossible to beat?
And yet you've beaten them with such regularity, you say.
What's the problem?
sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »@Judas Helviaryn
im in the na server, we can duel anytime you want. See if ur all talk or actually have some skill
Oh sure, as soon as I tell you my ping doesn't go under 700, you want to have a slapfight to prove who's right.
Listen buddy, I could have gone the "lel git gud l2p gg no re" route, and left it at that.
I didn't.
Instead, I've been trying to show you that it is possible to beat these builds, it just takes solid building of your own, as well as practice against these individual builds, exclusively.
Am I going to teach you how? No. Otherwise you'll just be relying on people to build and practice for you.
Take it or leave it, if I see you ingame, I'll happily duel you. But it'll be for practice, not pride.
You contradicting yourself and showing us all. first you say you have no problem with the strongest meta builds in the game with your satellite 700ping service, then you say you cant duel because your satellite 700ping service and it would be an injustice to you.
Not only that but you keep saying how you are trying to help by providing no help. Yes of course these guys can be beaten, ive beaten plenty of them, thats not the issue, the issue is that these sets do not have a place in open world pvp or dueling for that matter. These sets are meant for PVE DD and should stay that way.
Funny, didn't you say in a previous post that these proc builds that "kill you instantly" were impossible to beat?
And yet you've beaten them with such regularity, you say.
What's the problem?
no, i said you can not counter RNG proc sets. there is a paper trail buddy, dont make it up
Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »@Judas Helviaryn
im in the na server, we can duel anytime you want. See if ur all talk or actually have some skill
Oh sure, as soon as I tell you my ping doesn't go under 700, you want to have a slapfight to prove who's right.
Listen buddy, I could have gone the "lel git gud l2p gg no re" route, and left it at that.
I didn't.
Instead, I've been trying to show you that it is possible to beat these builds, it just takes solid building of your own, as well as practice against these individual builds, exclusively.
Am I going to teach you how? No. Otherwise you'll just be relying on people to build and practice for you.
Take it or leave it, if I see you ingame, I'll happily duel you. But it'll be for practice, not pride.
You contradicting yourself and showing us all. first you say you have no problem with the strongest meta builds in the game with your satellite 700ping service, then you say you cant duel because your satellite 700ping service and it would be an injustice to you.
Not only that but you keep saying how you are trying to help by providing no help. Yes of course these guys can be beaten, ive beaten plenty of them, thats not the issue, the issue is that these sets do not have a place in open world pvp or dueling for that matter. These sets are meant for PVE DD and should stay that way.
Funny, didn't you say in a previous post that these proc builds that "kill you instantly" were impossible to beat?
And yet you've beaten them with such regularity, you say.
What's the problem?
no, i said you can not counter RNG proc sets. there is a paper trail buddy, dont make it up
If you can't counter them, how is it possible to beat them? I'm not quoting verbatim because I'm on my phone.