I'm curious about Spellcrafting.

Bandit1215 · October 2016

This would be an amazing thing to implement that was talked about at the launch of the game at Quakecon 2014, but I was wondering if Nick Konkle took it with him when he left, or is it still in the works? If it is, any ETA??

Code2501 · October 2016

Yeah, If they added real spell crafting to ESO, the ES nostalgia of being able to play around with my own custom spell book again (like I haven't been able to do since Oblivion) would keep me subbed and ready to buy up on crowns like nothing else.

DLC is all well and good, but using the same spells over and over even against new enemies gets old after a while.
There is a reason people play sandbox games for years, its the re-playability that mods add to them. In the MMO space the next best thing to mods is deep flexible systems where you can experiment with combo's builds and new play-styles.

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

Still in the works, on the backburner, no ETA. That about covers it. I believe ZOS addressed this in an ESO Live episode at the start of the year.

HoloYoitsu · October 2016

Basically, spell crafting died when Nick Konkle left ZOS. Firor made a statement about "it's on the back burner, no one working on it, no ETA". I believe there were some other statements on one of the eso lives about spellcrafting being problematic for balance because it would add a bunch of magicka abilities.

TL;DR don't expect anything unless they find a way to monetize it.

McI · October 2016

I honestly don't see a way they can implent it with balance. This is not a true Elder Scrolls game. This is a MMO in the Elder Scrolls universe.

runagate · October 2016

McI wrote: »

I honestly don't see a way they can implent it with balance. This is not a true Elder Scrolls game. This is a MMO in the Elder Scrolls universe.

Well, the game certainly isn't balanced now. Perhaps wild and uncontrolled diversity will make it more of a rock paper scissors system rather than the current dozen or so BiS builds.

Callous2208 · October 2016

McI wrote: »

I honestly don't see a way they can implent it with balance. This is not a true Elder Scrolls game. This is a MMO in the Elder Scrolls universe.

I have shared this sentiment in many threads throughout the years, asking about spell-crafting. No way it could possibly be like the spellcrafting we remember from single player TES games. Balance jokes aside, we're talking laughable op skills in the single player titles. In my mind, it would be nothing more than a few more skills with a few new morphs to pick from. Theory crafters would jump all over it in pts, then we'd again all pick the same one based on our role. Adding weapon ultimates was a nice start, perhaps they will add more skills or skill lines in the future. I just don't think spell-crafting in an mmo is feasible. At least not in the vain we remember from past TES games.

Ch4mpTW · October 2016

Callous2208 wrote: »

McI wrote: »

I honestly don't see a way they can implent it with balance. This is not a true Elder Scrolls game. This is a MMO in the Elder Scrolls universe.

I have shared this sentiment in many threads throughout the years, asking about spell-crafting. No way it could possibly be like the spellcrafting we remember from single player TES games. Balance jokes aside, we're talking laughable op skills in the single player titles. In my mind, it would be nothing more than a few more skills with a few new morphs to pick from. Theory crafters would jump all over it in pts, then we'd again all pick the same one based on our role. Adding weapon ultimates was a nice start, perhaps they will add more skills or skill lines in the future. I just don't think spell-crafting in an mmo is feasible. At least not in the vain we remember from past TES games.

I mean, they could tone them down a bit so that they could be viable in the game. Or have said crafted spells behave differently in PvP, than they would in PvE. Because honest to goodness, I really badly miss my Dremora Lord summons from the Conjuration spell tree in Skyrim. As well as my Storm Atromachs. Those buddies laid down the law on any and everything that dared oppose me. Dragon priests, legendary dragons, dwarven machines, etc. Those 2 summons would crush any and all who wanted problems. Lol.

Vaoh · October 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Still in the works, on the backburner, no ETA. That about covers it. I believe ZOS addressed this in an ESO Live episode at the start of the year.

Yup. Little else to say. I'd add that we've seen video of Summon Fire Atronach, Ice Armor, and Muffle, as well as the Spellcrafting interface and the spell associated with the process of finding tablets (base crafting mats like Enchanting's Ta/Rekuta/Kuta/etc). Also we have datamined tons of spells that have been viewable for over a year now.

Besides that, it's a no ETA. No worries though, it's really is coming

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Basically, spell crafting died when Nick Konkle left ZOS. Firor made a statement about "it's on the back burner, no one working on it, no ETA". I believe there were some other statements on one of the eso lives about spellcrafting being problematic for balance because it would add a bunch of magicka abilities.

TL;DR don't expect anything unless they find a way to monetize it.

Pretty sure they announced that there would be a Stamina equivalent, so that solves that. Also it would be P2W to monetize it, so just wait it out. Spellcrafting is on its way

Ch4mpTW · October 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Still in the works, on the backburner, no ETA. That about covers it. I believe ZOS addressed this in an ESO Live episode at the start of the year.

Yup. Little else to say. I'd add that we've seen video of Summon Fire Atronach, Ice Armor, and Muffle. Also we have datamined tons of spells that have been viewable for over a year now.

Besides that, it's a no ETA. No worries though, it's really is coming

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Basically, spell crafting died when Nick Konkle left ZOS. Firor made a statement about "it's on the back burner, no one working on it, no ETA". I believe there were some other statements on one of the eso lives about spellcrafting being problematic for balance because it would add a bunch of magicka abilities.

TL;DR don't expect anything unless they find a way to monetize it.

Pretty sure they announced that there would be a Stamina equivalent, so that solves that. Also it would be P2W to monetize it, so just wait it out. Spellcrafting is on its way

@Vaoh Whoa! Say what!? There was a video floating around of ice armor and summoned Flame Atronachs? Do you have a link to see that? That sounds epic.

Vaoh · October 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Still in the works, on the backburner, no ETA. That about covers it. I believe ZOS addressed this in an ESO Live episode at the start of the year.

Yup. Little else to say. I'd add that we've seen video of Summon Fire Atronach, Ice Armor, and Muffle. Also we have datamined tons of spells that have been viewable for over a year now.

Besides that, it's a no ETA. No worries though, it's really is coming

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Basically, spell crafting died when Nick Konkle left ZOS. Firor made a statement about "it's on the back burner, no one working on it, no ETA". I believe there were some other statements on one of the eso lives about spellcrafting being problematic for balance because it would add a bunch of magicka abilities.

TL;DR don't expect anything unless they find a way to monetize it.

Pretty sure they announced that there would be a Stamina equivalent, so that solves that. Also it would be P2W to monetize it, so just wait it out. Spellcrafting is on its way

@Vaoh Whoa! Say what!? There was a video floating around of ice armor and summoned Flame Atronachs? Do you have a link to see that? That sounds epic.

Believe me it is! I'll look for it.... hold on a sec.

Vaoh · October 2016

Spellcrafting Previews
• 56:02 - 1:01:47 = Finding tablets, crafting
• 1:01:48 - 1:02:14 = Animations of Learning Spells
• 1:03:10 - 1:03:55 = Casting Crafted Spells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0
@Ch4mpTW

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Spellcrafting Previews
• 56:02 - 1:01:47 = Finding tablets, crafting
• 1:01:48 - 1:02:14 = Animations of Learning Spells
• 1:03:10 - 1:03:55 = Casting Crafted Spells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0
@Ch4mpTW

The entire system could work well as part of a guild story for something like the Psijic Order or the College of Winterhold

Vaoh · October 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Spellcrafting Previews
• 56:02 - 1:01:47 = Finding tablets, crafting
• 1:01:48 - 1:02:14 = Animations of Learning Spells
• 1:03:10 - 1:03:55 = Casting Crafted Spells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0
@Ch4mpTW

The entire system could work well as part of a guild story for something like the Psijic Order or the College of Winterhold

Absolutely. My guess is that it is deeply rooted in Eyevea though. In fact, I am almost positive we've found Spellcrafting to be related to Eyevea (finish the Mages Guild main quest).

They did say that Stamina will have a sort of equivalent. Based on that, it is safe to assume that Spellcrafting+Stamina Crafting System are eventually going to be available upon completing the Mages/Fighters guild main quests.

That's just my theory though. No one can say 100% for certain

Code2501 · October 2016

The system they talked about before it was put on hold addressed balance well enough.
Right now I'd be happy with re-skinned skills frankly. The game lacks diversity and some new class neutral skills would be great. Even if it was functionally the same (and hence balanced) a simple summon spell could give players flavour to rp a necromancer, a druid or an conjurer with a minor skin change using existing art assets.

KloudKotuzai · October 2016

Can't remember but on the dark brotherhood update or the thieves guild, they said it would be released around the end of 2017

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

KloudKotuzai wrote: »

Can't remember but on the dark brotherhood update or the thieves guild, they said it would be released around the end of 2017

I remember it being mentioned but they didn't give a definite release time frame. That said, they were trying to get new content out to us pretty quickly so it being put on the backburner would have been done so the teams could focus on other systems needed for that content such as poison making in Dark Brotherhood

CapnPhoton · October 2016

I haven't been following it, but if its all about crafting your abilities then adding them to your character for regular use, yeah ok cool. But if its anything like another MMO, Ishtaria, where spell crafting means that you have to craft a bunch of conduits that you put spells into and stack them for use before you can go out and do things...no thank you. That was a tedious time sink every time you played the game.

idk · October 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Still in the works, on the backburner, no ETA. That about covers it. I believe ZOS addressed this in an ESO Live episode at the start of the year.

@AzraelKrieg

It is still in the works as in no one is working on it ATM and no ETA on when someone will start looking at it once more.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · October 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Spellcrafting Previews
• 56:02 - 1:01:47 = Finding tablets, crafting
• 1:01:48 - 1:02:14 = Animations of Learning Spells
• 1:03:10 - 1:03:55 = Casting Crafted Spells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0
@Ch4mpTW

Ok guys. You know that clip is from 2014 right? That is the system that Nick created, but no, they have scraped it to back burner indefinitely. That was announced last year on ESO live..

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Spellcrafting Previews
• 56:02 - 1:01:47 = Finding tablets, crafting
• 1:01:48 - 1:02:14 = Animations of Learning Spells
• 1:03:10 - 1:03:55 = Casting Crafted Spells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0
@Ch4mpTW

Ok guys. You know that clip is from 2014 right? That is the system that Nick created, but no, they have scraped it to back burner indefinitely. That was announced last year on ESO live..

Yes we are. Just that some people weren't around in 2014 and had no idea what Spellcrafting was so using this video was that basis of providing that info.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · October 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Spellcrafting Previews
• 56:02 - 1:01:47 = Finding tablets, crafting
• 1:01:48 - 1:02:14 = Animations of Learning Spells
• 1:03:10 - 1:03:55 = Casting Crafted Spells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0
@Ch4mpTW

Ok guys. You know that clip is from 2014 right? That is the system that Nick created, but no, they have scraped it to back burner indefinitely. That was announced last year on ESO live..

Yes we are. Just that some people weren't around in 2014 and had no idea what Spellcrafting was so using this video was that basis of providing that info.

Ahhh.. Ok. Sorry. I too was so excited when this came out. I think spellcrafting and jewelry crafting are wanted/needed.
So sad when Paul and Nick left and was put to the back..

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Spellcrafting Previews
• 56:02 - 1:01:47 = Finding tablets, crafting
• 1:01:48 - 1:02:14 = Animations of Learning Spells
• 1:03:10 - 1:03:55 = Casting Crafted Spells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkeMacg-b0
@Ch4mpTW

Ok guys. You know that clip is from 2014 right? That is the system that Nick created, but no, they have scraped it to back burner indefinitely. That was announced last year on ESO live..

Yes we are. Just that some people weren't around in 2014 and had no idea what Spellcrafting was so using this video was that basis of providing that info.

Ahhh.. Ok. Sorry. I too was so excited when this came out. I think spellcrafting and jewelry crafting are wanted/needed.
So sad when Paul and Nick left and was put to the back..

It sucks Nick left because he seemed really excited about it in the presentation. Paul leaving to be honest is kind of a blessing as we have had more things added that may never have been considered when he was around. Though his outrageous shirts will be missed.

Bryanonymous · October 2016

There was also jewelry crafting in the beta apparently, which I believe should have priority over spell crafting. And I play exclusively as both a DPS mage and a crafting merchant. Crafting Sets > Spells

Digiman · October 2016

I agree with @Callous2208 post. They will just add new skills to the game, hopefully in a december or something before the housing update.

Right now it would be cool to create some ice spells without having to use a destruction staff. My idea is that you would be given 5 slots to put your custom spells which require enchanting runes to make.

Nickernator · October 2016

2 weeks ago I returned to this game, the last time I played it was somewhere in 2014. Pretty sad to hear that the spellcrafting isn't available. I remember I watched that spellcrafting trailer and it looked awesome, and now I am talking there was also some dwemer dungeon named "clockwork city", where is that?

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

Nickernator wrote: »

2 weeks ago I returned to this game, the last time I played it was somewhere in 2014. Pretty sad to hear that the spellcrafting isn't available. I remember I watched that spellcrafting trailer and it looked awesome, and now I am talking there was also some dwemer dungeon named "clockwork city", where is that?

Still not available. Future DLC

idk · October 2016

Bryanonymous wrote: »

There was also jewelry crafting in the beta apparently, which I believe should have priority over spell crafting. And I play exclusively as both a DPS mage and a crafting merchant. Crafting Sets > Spells

@Bryanonymous I believe the Devs stated earlier this year they had concerns about adding jewelry crafting where it comes to balance. Unsure why. However, it is certainly not getting less attention than Spell Crafting sine no one is working on either.

illuminousflux · October 2016

that video was beautiful...

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I'm curious about Spellcrafting.

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