anyone else think burning embers heal needs nerfed

karldavy149b16_ESO · October 2016

so today i was in my guilds discord channel chat chatting away and the topic of world bosses needing groups to be able to killem came up so i chirped up that since one tamriel ive soloed every world boss in the game there was a little silence and 1 dude chirped up will *** what about the cave of memorys world boss in stone falls i replied yep that two ive soloed every world boss in the game since one tamriel hit so after 20 mins of him questioning me to find out if im talking rubbish or not he says well id love to see it so we head over to the boss theres the usual 2 or 3 people attempting to kill it and getting their killed in 10 seconds or less ... so once the last guy died i jumped in spammed burning embers the entire time and was able to get all 3 bosses down to 60 % befor the people that were already there realised i was going to kill it and jumped in

so yeah i have to say burning embers on a dps toon as to be readjusted surely

that boss as to be one of the hardest world bosses in the game since one tamriel hit and a dps beat it with 1 skill 1 SKILL

my suggestions if a nerf was to come was instead of healing when the effect ends it heals for the damage done after 10.5 seconds

Mojmir · October 2016

Nope

MaxwellC · October 2016

No thank you, my mag dk is already the worst magicka class to play and most likely the weakest class in all of tamriel. Burning embers isn't bad at all I've faced many mag dks that would hard/soft cc me and spam it but that didn't stop a dizzing swing to the face.

I will say if you want it nerf'd then nerf cloak, nerf harden ward, nerf soul assault, nerf soul tether, nerf radiant destruction, nerf jabs; pretty much nerf every magicka ability that's not on a DK and I'll give you that.

TheDarkRuler · October 2016

Burning Embers heal is dependent on the time it was active on an enemy.
It is strong yes, but not ooverpowered. To be honest this skill is most likely the only thing that keeps the aggressive DK-mage possible to play.

Doctordarkspawn · October 2016

Why would you nerf a class who's magicka capability is allready suck, possibly making them unviable as magicka tanks and further craping on a class that's been crapped on?

No, no, no, stop it, no, bad.

Bossdonut · October 2016

Last time I checked in mag dks were top dips. Now apparently they suck. Wet heppen?

Code2501 · October 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

No thank you, my mag dk is already the worst magicka class to play and most likely the weakest class in all of tamriel. Burning embers isn't bad at all I've faced many mag dks that would hard/soft cc me and spam it but that didn't stop a dizzing swing to the face.

I will say if you want it nerf'd then nerf cloak, nerf harden ward, nerf soul assault, nerf soul tether, nerf radiant destruction, nerf jabs; pretty much nerf every magicka ability that's not on a DK and I'll give you that.

Lol... sure nerf cloak that will make the NB's howl... or it would if it was ever usefull for more than skipping trash mobs.

RinaldoGandolphi · October 2016

My VMA sorc build can kill any world boss in the game post one tam

I was solo most Craglorn group delves before they nerfed it...cleared Hircines Haunt solo with no pets

Embers is fine it's the only thing keeping magic DK melee dps viable in PVE

RAGUNAnoOne · October 2016

No it is a delayed heal that depends on a DOT and the ONLY viable damage move left for a mag DK. A few things need a nerf in this patch but embers is not one of them. Besides DK is a PvE class so it is supposed to be great for many PvE situations but get them in PvP and they suck compared to others especially magicka.

NBrookus · October 2016

No, I don't think it needs to be nerfed. Mag DK tanks and mDK's in PvP do not need to be screwed any further.

FloppyTouch · October 2016

Wow mdk didn't even get a buff yet and ppl are already calling for nerfs I'm so done with this thread

Yamenstein · October 2016

karldavy149b16_ESO wrote: »

so today i was in my guilds discord channel chat chatting away and the topic of world bosses needing groups to be able to killem came up so i chirped up that since one tamriel ive soloed every world boss in the game there was a little silence and 1 dude chirped up will *** what about the cave of memorys world boss in stone falls i replied yep that two ive soloed every world boss in the game since one tamriel hit so after 20 mins of him questioning me to find out if im talking rubbish or not he says well id love to see it so we head over to the boss theres the usual 2 or 3 people attempting to kill it and getting their killed in 10 seconds or less ... so once the last guy died i jumped in spammed burning embers the entire time and was able to get all 3 bosses down to 60 % befor the people that were already there realised i was going to kill it and jumped in

so yeah i have to say burning embers on a dps toon as to be readjusted surely

that boss as to be one of the hardest world bosses in the game since one tamriel hit and a dps beat it with 1 skill 1 SKILL

my suggestions if a nerf was to come was instead of healing when the effect ends it heals for the damage done after 10.5 seconds

Record next time and show us

But seriously. They don't need a nerf. Maybe wait until next patch hits so we can see how they have changed mDK before calling for nerfs.

Joy_Division · October 2016

Really? Nerf DK?

alephthiago · October 2016

I can kill any world boss solo too with healing ward and dampen magic in pretty much any magicka class.
But either you are making this up or do not realize that burning embers "burst heal" only comes when you let it eat the boss for 5-7 seconds or longer, if you just keep swiping over and over the heal is VERY small.

Stoopid_Nwah · October 2016

Lol just stop. No. Congrats on clearing a world boss...next up try doing vma with just burning embers and let us know how it goes, since it's so OP and what not.

alephthiago · October 2016

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Lol just stop. No. Congrats on clearing a world boss...next up try doing vma with just burning embers and let us know how it goes, since it's so OP and what not.

Duuuuuuude, YOU!
I love your magblade ganking videos, can you keep them coming?

SlayerTheDragon · October 2016

OP, have you ever seen what jabs can do then....

Code2501 · October 2016

I can solo many wb's with a hybrid sappy nb but there are some I find hard to belive are readily soloed... primarily those wb's that spawn tons of high hp minions like the gargoyle in ravenspire. Sustaining with self heals on one hard hitter is not a problem. When there are 7 miniboss equiv and a upper rank heavy hitter boss with stuns pelting on you I don't know how you can self heal through that. One stun and you take 40k before you can break it.

Are you going full heavy hot/sustain + blocking cps with set procs on damage recieved?

davidj8291 · October 2016

No. Stop asking people to nerf Magicka DKs. They have no burst DPS.

Iselin · October 2016

Bossdonut wrote: »

Last time I checked in mag dks were top dips. Now apparently they suck. Wet heppen?

The dips is situational: it's great in "who has the best dips?" threads but sucks in let's nerf DK threads.

Malmai · October 2016

Needs nerf duh...

SnubbS · October 2016

The issue here is that while Burning Embers does indeed need to be nerfed -- you can't nerf MagDK because it's such a fickle thing that any negative change could send it into full-blown unplayability. It's also not like the Burning Embers heal is the most op thing in the game -- there are more pressing matters.

Edit: Wait this a thread about PVE? Who cares -- let mDK have a damn heal.

Johngo0036 · October 2016

@karldavy149b16_ESO - At level 10 i was waiting for a dolmen,
this cp 400+ guy asks me to duel,

I thought oh crap i will lose this but ok,

I nuked him all because of burning embers(yes i have 600+cp but had not allocated them yet)
It does heal for a sizable amount and paired with igneous shield it is kinda op.

But loving it.

Jimbullbee85 · October 2016

Shush man before its too late! Don't be calling for a nerf on your own class dude hah.

Enslaved · October 2016

So, from what I have just read, OP who claims to be mDK want his best self healing nerfed because reasons.

clocksstoppe · October 2016

Yeah let's make mag dk useless when playing solo that will help.

Tryxus · October 2016

Malmai · October 2016

Nerf i want to run my naked build.

cpuScientist · October 2016

I can solo any world boss on any class magicka based or Stam it doth not matter.

MagPlar just keep jabbing and radiant glory, throw up a harness and your golden.
Stamplar major mending and vigor, throw on a two hander for rally and your golden.
Magblade heals from DPS out the wazoo, throw on harness and golden.
Stamblade mending and your choice of either a two hander or the dualweild ultimate and healing flurry
StamSorc Critsurge vigor dualweild ultimate flurry, honestly the easiest lol.
magSorc shield surge and kill.
MagDK now you got 2 options 1 you go with a resto back bar and use mutagen and healing ward with harness turtle mode lol, or go offensive and just ward and burning embers/inhale. Either is fine.
StamDK major mending and vigor, Any ultimate ultimate and healing flurry drop a standard or the dual wield ultimate, or go two hander don't really matter.

Now the easiest is the StamSorc Magblade and MagSorc. But none are in any way super difficult. The worst is probably the Stamplar unless it has a lot of adds.

Averya_Teira · October 2016

That's the only way my magDK stays alive... Please stop...

Also, jabby jabby jabs heals for a ton more and does more damag, so ....

Wollust · October 2016

Is this 1.5?