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[Help] Magicka Templar

TheSeer
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So I need help picking which set is best for me. I don't PvP much, but if it can help with PvP as well I'll take it.

Race: Orc
Type: Healer/DPS

Now the armour set has to be available in heavy or medium, I was hoping to get the Spell Power Cure set, but that went down in flames for me. lol

EDIT: Helm and Shoulder slots are taken by Monster Set.
Edited by TheSeer on October 24, 2016 1:27AM

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  • KingYogi415
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    Healers wear light armor. If you want to be a healer you have to go full magic.

    Since you are an orc go stamplar. maybe check deltia out.

    PVE stam DPS= medium armor.

    In PVP you can where all heavy and still dps.

    Cheers!
  • TheSeer
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    Healers wear light armor. If you want to be a healer you have to go full magic.

    Since you are an orc go stamplar. maybe check deltia out.

    PVE stam DPS= medium armor.

    In PVP you can where all heavy and still dps.

    Cheers!

    Well I tried light armour and no thanks. I have 1/4 of everything I had stat wise, that and wasted a bunch of gold for the respec stats.

    And before you say food helps imma stop you there because I had a friend give me some and even with food I was still at 1/2 my old stats. So sticking to Heavy armour for sure.

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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    TheSeer wrote: »
    Healers wear light armor. If you want to be a healer you have to go full magic.

    Since you are an orc go stamplar. maybe check deltia out.

    PVE stam DPS= medium armor.

    In PVP you can where all heavy and still dps.

    Cheers!

    Well I tried light armour and no thanks. I have 1/4 of everything I had stat wise, that and wasted a bunch of gold for the respec stats.

    And before you say food helps imma stop you there because I had a friend give me some and even with food I was still at 1/2 my old stats. So sticking to Heavy armour for sure.

    Half of everything? Do you have the skill points into the passives? The only thing that ought of went down is your armor rating, which really doesn't matter. What monster set are you wearing?
  • TheSeer
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    TheSeer wrote: »
    Healers wear light armor. If you want to be a healer you have to go full magic.

    Since you are an orc go stamplar. maybe check deltia out.

    PVE stam DPS= medium armor.

    In PVP you can where all heavy and still dps.

    Cheers!

    Well I tried light armour and no thanks. I have 1/4 of everything I had stat wise, that and wasted a bunch of gold for the respec stats.

    And before you say food helps imma stop you there because I had a friend give me some and even with food I was still at 1/2 my old stats. So sticking to Heavy armour for sure.

    Half of everything? Do you have the skill points into the passives? The only thing that ought of went down is your armor rating, which really doesn't matter. What monster set are you wearing?

    I made sure to add all the skill points to the same stuff so it would hurt me as much. As for the monster set I have the mighty chudan shoulder piece and Nightflames vesage helm. If I could ever find competent players to run vet Mazzatun I'd be wearing the helm. Oh an my jewelery is all will power if that makes much difference.

    PS Sorry if I sounded rude, but seeing the stats made me gag irl cause they hadn't been that low since I was level 10
    Edited by TheSeer on October 24, 2016 5:20AM

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  • Man-cy
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    I guess your Orc in heavy armor wants to heal with sword and board. No offense, just could not resist.
  • TheSeer
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    Man-cy wrote: »
    I guess your Orc in heavy armor wants to heal with sword and board. No offense, just could not resist.

    Tbh I wish I could, but without a staff my magicka would barely replenish enough to be effective.

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  • Rev Rielle
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    Honestly, you really do want all light armour (Or at least five light, one heavy (cuirass) and one medium (leggings). The light armour passives are just too good to pass up.

    Sure your defense may go down, but really bosses have three attacks to worry about. One; usually a heavy attack that you have time to block/dodge out of the way from.Two; A powerful attack (often their most powerful) attack that you can interrupt. And 3; an area attack (red circle/cone on the ground) that you get out/away from.

    Learn to see those (the telegraphs are the same for all monsters) and react accordingly and you will have no problems in all light. In my opinion the best defense is not high stats, but reacting to the enemy's three main attacks.
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  • a1i3nz
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    First, race change. Orc is bad for magplar. Go high elf or Breton.

    Heavy armor 5-1-1 setup. 5 piece Kagrenacs Hope, 5 transmutation (three jewelry, sword and shield on backbar), Torugs Pact swords sharpened, monster set (skoria, malubeth, etc)

    All armor impen besides your two big ones (legs chest) go infused. Also back bar S&B have a defending sword and reinforced shield (impen works too for shield).

    My attributes are 12 in health, the rest in magicka. All magicka glyphs. 2 spell damage glyphs, 1 recovery.

    38k magicka, 22k health, 15k stamina, 1800 magicka recovery Front Bar
    36k magicka, 25k health, 15k stamina, 1800 magicka recovery Back Bar

    Your spell damage will be around 3k (hey, heavy armor lol), your resistance on front bar is about 25k spell, 22k physical. Back bar should be 30k spell, 27k physical and 3500 Crit resist ALL BUFFED with transmutation procd

    This setup works great. Drop spears, move around manage your resources while wasting your opponents. Then once they can't get up from your spears, nuke em with bats and sweeps. It's not about being hard core dps, but the damage isn't bad. I have problems with sorcs but usually I'll just ignore them and move on because they won't be able to kill me.

    This build can actually bomb too. If you see a zerg, get entropy then pop an immovable and batswarm in with skoria on and a Ritual of retribution down. Then just drop spears and sweep up.
    Or drop a meteor and spears and hope skoria procs (from a distance). The other night I killed at least 10+ ball group this way. Almost got my shooting star back immediately. And without skoria.

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    Edited by a1i3nz on October 24, 2016 6:22AM
  • KingYogi415
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    If you want a roleplay a heavy armor orc who healz go ahead.

    Just don't expect to get any farther then being carried through a normal dungeon by people who follow a real build.

    Re-roll a stam dk to tank if you want to wear heavy and be effective.

  • TheSeer
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    If you want a roleplay a heavy armor orc who healz go ahead.

    Just don't expect to get any farther then being carried through a normal dungeon by people who follow a real build.

    Re-roll a stam dk to tank if you want to wear heavy and be effective.

    Cute that you think I need carrying considering I get through Vet dungeons just fine.

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  • reclaimervii.sierra117ub17_ESO
    Lol heavy armour healing in pve, smh this what happens when pvp meta is leaking into pve
  • Synfaer
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    Not quite sure what you want here...
    Seems like you want the mitigation of a tank, the DPS of a DD and to also to heal?
    Sure you can have a bit of all three but you will suck in all of them individually. My advice would be to pick 2 if you want to be versatile and effective in the role you want to play.
    You initially stated that you wanted to DPS/Heal...if thats the case you are going to have to sacrifice some damage mitigation (eg wear light armor) to be an effective DPS/Healer.
    Edited by Synfaer on October 24, 2016 6:33AM
  • BlackEar
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    Not a lot of people mix heavy armor and healing and even fewer are succesful at it.
    The majority of the players use standard set-up, so you can expect a lot of replies saying your idea won't work.

    I have no experience with PVP so I do not know how it works there, but I have seen a lot of succesful light armor templar healers that have no problem staying alive and manage their ressources. Myself included.
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  • TheSeer
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    Lol heavy armour healing in pve, smh this what happens when pvp meta is leaking into pve

    lucille-bluth.gif

    Well I'm done with this inquiry considering only two people actually gave me good advice which I will follow.

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  • Anti_Virus
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    TheSeer wrote: »
    So I need help picking which set is best for me. I don't PvP much, but if it can help with PvP as well I'll take it.

    Race: Orc
    Type: Healer/DPS

    Now the armour set has to be available in heavy or medium, I was hoping to get the Spell Power Cure set, but that went down in flames for me. lol

    EDIT: Helm and Shoulder slots are taken by Monster Set.

    To break up confusion, you can wear light or heavy for healing but you should be a magic based build.

    I would lean more towards light armor since you get more sustain but heavy has decent sustain as well.

    You don't need specific gear to heal really just high magic pool and champ points in healing done.

    2 night flame, Spriggan's or engine guardian

    5 piece julianos ( light or heavy)

    5 piece spell powers cure.

    Enchant all with max magicka.
    Edited by Anti_Virus on October 24, 2016 6:45AM
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  • Synfaer
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    Well I'm done with this inquiry considering only two people actually gave me good advice which I will follow.

    Well you're a ray of sunshine...
  • KingYogi415
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    TheSeer wrote: »
    Lol heavy armour healing in pve, smh this what happens when pvp meta is leaking into pve

    lucille-bluth.gif

    Well I'm done with this inquiry considering only two people actually gave me good advice which I will follow.

    You ignored the people giving you real advice.

    I'm sure your heavy armor stam healer will be just fine.. -_-

    That old lady meme is perfect!
  • me_ming
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    TheSeer wrote: »
    If you want a roleplay a heavy armor orc who healz go ahead.

    Just don't expect to get any farther then being carried through a normal dungeon by people who follow a real build.

    Re-roll a stam dk to tank if you want to wear heavy and be effective.

    Cute that you think I need carrying considering I get through Vet dungeons just fine.

    rofl
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    TheSeer wrote: »
    So I need help picking which set is best for me. I don't PvP much, but if it can help with PvP as well I'll take it.

    Race: Orc
    Type: Healer/DPS

    Now the armour set has to be available in heavy or medium, I was hoping to get the Spell Power Cure set, but that went down in flames for me. lol

    EDIT: Helm and Shoulder slots are taken by Monster Set.

    I know an orc sorc healer. But he wears more light armor.

    I know a templar who can tank AND heal. He is tanky as hell and he can effectively heal, well, at least his dpses don't die as much, so really he just throws HoTs, and maybe some breath of life if needed.

    But you cannot be half as effective as a healer wearing light armor (or at least the 5-1-1 set up), with the build you want. Health and being tanky are not as important stats for a healer. And yes, most of my health I get from food buff (I have 18k health, and that is more than enough for me). All my attribute points are in Magicka. I wear 5 light, 1 med, 1 heavy, I may change that to all light soon. Important stats any healer should keep in mind are max magicka, magicka regen, spell crit and spell dmg. All of which you get bonuses from wearing more light armor. If you die a lot in dungeons with at least 16-17k health, it's not because you're squishy, it's because you are not avoiding damage.

    If you really insist of wearing heavy armor, my advise? Be a tank-healer. Tank primarily. I know an orc templar who tanks and heals at the same time with 3 really good dps.

    For DPS, the only possible way I see you wearing heavy and be a magplar is using soulshine and cyrodiil's light.
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