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  • burglar
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    I cannot stand this update. The game is super overcrowded and people are literally dueling everywhere you go. The lag is very intense and it's time to stop. I'm going to really miss the peace and tranquility of questing in the cp areas. Now that does not even exist anymore. In each update this game has got worse and worse and now it's so terrible.

    Now another thing that I'm pretty pissed off about is the fact that they added all of these extremely cancerous builds into the game. Deucie the killa which was one of the best players in this game quit the game because of all these new proc sets that they added. That's really pathetic. If you want to check him out he's out youtube Deuicie the killa.

    The overcrowding does suck sometimes, but at least the game finally feels as if it's an MMO. There are other people around! It's great! If you want to spend most of your time playing by yourself, which I can appreciate too, maybe start a character on the EU server. You're bound to be playing at hours when others are likely to be asleep, giving you the tranquility you desireeeee.
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  • Birdovic
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    For me, the update was a success.
    I mean, I didnt play some months and reinstalled ESO again for it, to test it.
    And it feels refreshing to to Overland Stuff again, especially because there is some CP160 Material to be looted now everywhere :trollface:

    Now, if they increased the Anchors, Public Dungeons (and bosses) difficulty closer to where World Bosses currently are, everything is cool.

  • QuebraRegra
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    I cannot stand this update. The game is super overcrowded and people are literally dueling everywhere you go. The lag is very intense and it's time to stop. I'm going to really miss the peace and tranquility of questing in the cp areas. Now that does not even exist anymore. In each update this game has got worse and worse and now it's so terrible.

    Now another thing that I'm pretty pissed off about is the fact that they added all of these extremely cancerous builds into the game. Deucie the killa which was one of the best players in this game quit the game because of all these new proc sets that they added. That's really pathetic. If you want to check him out he's out youtube Deuicie the killa.

    Listen my freind, the problems you describe are not really ONE TAMRIEL issues. Dueling should NEVER have been added outside of ARENA instances. Cancerous builds are the meta that arises from impotent ZOS attempts at game balance changes.

    #bringbacksoftcaps.

    I feel what yer saying tho.
  • Mitoice
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    I liked One Tamriel so dont say everyone hates it
  • xaraan
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    I have to disagree with the OP. The game seems much more interesting now.

    I do think that 1. things will level off a bit as people chill on farming some stuff and the newness wears off and 2. the proc sets needs to be balanced (or all the sets in general) but they do make things more interesting build wise. (Personally, I think you should only be able to have 1 proc active at a time, either only one will work, or a global cool-down on all procs, if one goes off, they are all on cool-down for a certain amount of time).
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  • Phica_Lovic
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    So maybe start playing a single player game like Skyrim, cause you know, in MMOs there are also other players out there... and to be honest, the more, the better.

    That's an insult. I have played so many other mmos and pretty much all of them has a way better management on their games. I wonder what Angry Joe would say if he reviewed the game 2 years later...

    It's not just me that thinks it is a bad idea but literally everyone is complaining in the text chat everywhere I go about how terrible this update is. I'm probably just the first to make a post about it.

    1st: He's a console player so take that with a grain of salt.

    2nd: If you lead with, Please Undo One Tamriel - make a post about pros, cons, and why going back would be an improvement, etc etc. Not crying about how many duels there are, your lag, and some dude named *** - or whatever it was - as evidence. That's all anecdotal. Nothing is "pathetic" because Justin Timberlake of ESO, whom you were crushing on really hard, quit.
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    LaiTash wrote: »
    How can this be a bad thing? You want to play a dead MMO with no one around you?

    Because there can only be two extremes, right?

    Come on man, the game is no way to be called overcrowded.
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  • Katahdin
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    Everybody LOVES the hard new world bosses.. best thing since sliced bread. Everyone JUMPING for joy because you need a group of at least 4 CP160s to do most of them.

    Unless the boss is in a popular zone where the drops are desirable, there is never anyone there and you have to beg in map chat for help.

    Yeah these bosses are that great, no one wants to do half of them.
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    LaiTash wrote: »
    Dubhliam wrote: »
    BEST
    UPDATE
    EVER

    Yeah if you don't care much for the small things like crafting, economy, pvp, i won't mention immersion or lore-friendliness because it's obvious it's not the game for ES fans anymore so nobody really cares. Because now you have so much new things to do: waiting for a boss to respawn, spamming LFG to the zone chat, farming the same dungeon for you BiS gear, deconstructing set items you don't want because you have plenty of them but they're all bound, getting jevelry for being around a dolmen while it's facerolled by a dozen of people. Best update ever.

    This is the update for TES fan, at least TES 4,5 fans. Immersion? This update brings in immersion. Before the update, you can't do what you want, if you want to join the Dark Brotherhood or go to Cyrodiil, when you go back, you can't do any sidequests anymore because you are too overleveled for them. Now you can! Now, just like in TES 4, 5, you can go to wherever you want and do whatever you want. You love Skyrim and want to go there first from the start? Now you can! Before the update, many zones are dead zones, people go there to do quest then go somewhere else, because there's no point hanging out in a zone in which you kill mob in one shot and get nothing worth from it. Now you can hang out in whatever zone you like! Love the aestheticity of Greenshade? Now you can stay there forever! A lot of zones are now alive, and overcrowded zones become less crowded. The whole Tamriel becomes alive again, not just overcrowded zones.

    I don't get it, "waiting for a boss to respawn, spamming LFG to the zone chat, farming the same dungeon for you BiS gear, deconstructing set items you don't want because you have plenty of them but they're all bound, getting jevelry for being around a dolmen while it's facerolled by a dozen of people" these are all things you do before update. What's your complaint again?

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  • Eleusian
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    People seem to get mad they can't hide in gold & silver zones anymore. Should have launched this way
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  • LaiTash
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    LaiTash wrote: »
    How can this be a bad thing? You want to play a dead MMO with no one around you?

    Because there can only be two extremes, right?

    Come on man, the game is no way to be called overcrowded.

    Really? I enter the public dungeon just to find all the bosses dead and dying in seconds once respawned. I don't find that game of waiting exciting. Witches festival, yes, but it was like it before that. I love the base idea behind 1T - the one about scaling. But i hate what it did to the economy and i hate the farming behaviour it encourages. I also don't get it why the most interesting endgame content aka vet dungeons should loose any value once you have the gear you want because everything is BoE there.

    This update even turned me into justice i used to dispise. Because now it's the least boring way to acquire gold.
    Edited by LaiTash on October 22, 2016 1:47AM
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    So maybe start playing a single player game like Skyrim, cause you know, in MMOs there are also other players out there... and to be honest, the more, the better.

    That's an insult. I have played so many other mmos and pretty much all of them has a way better management on their games. I wonder what Angry Joe would say if he reviewed the game 2 years later...

    It's not just me that thinks it is a bad idea but literally everyone is complaining in the text chat everywhere I go about how terrible this update is. I'm probably just the first to make a post about it.

    It's not an insult, it's fact. In a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, especially a popular one, you will see players all over the place. You can either accept the crowds or as Tyrion said play a single-player game, or even a local multiplayer that limits the entire game during multiplayer to like a dozen players or whatnot.
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    when Dolmans are so crowded you have to spam AoEs in hopes you do enough damage to get credit or having to sit and wait for a boss cause two groups are farming heads in a circle.

    Nah actually people are farming for Halloween event, it is not going to be this crowded down in the line. Just farm dolmens somewhere else in the mean time.
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Everybody LOVES the hard new world bosses.. best thing since sliced bread. Everyone JUMPING for joy because you need a group of at least 4 CP160s to do most of them.

    Unless the boss is in a popular zone where the drops are desirable, there is never anyone there and you have to beg in map chat for help.

    Yeah these bosses are that great, no one wants to do half of them.

    3 people can kill a world boss, not 4.

    Like if you can solo a dolmen. That's what I do all the time. You also need 2 more people to do it right? So, world boss now takes the same amount of time, the same number of people, and have the same quality of loots as a dolmen.

    What's your issue again?
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    LaiTash wrote: »
    LaiTash wrote: »
    How can this be a bad thing? You want to play a dead MMO with no one around you?

    Because there can only be two extremes, right?

    Come on man, the game is no way to be called overcrowded.

    Really? I enter the public dungeon just to find all the bosses dead and dying in seconds once respawned. I don't find that game of waiting exciting. Witches festival, yes, but it was like it before that. I love the base idea behind 1T - the one about scaling. But i hate what it did to the economy and i hate the farming behaviour it encourages. I also don't get it why the most interesting endgame content aka vet dungeons should loose any value once you have the gear you want because everything is BoE there.

    This update even turned me into justice i used to dispise. Because now it's the least boring way to acquire gold.

    It is indeed the witch festival. Now everyone is farming in public dungeons and dolmens. It wasn't that crowded before. You didn't have to wait much.

    As you can see, you can only get a few certain gearsets in the public dungeons so endgame content is always relevant. Now you can do other things to acquire endgame gearsets if you are the type of guy who doesn't like vet dungeons, but the drop rate is low enough so you don't out-farm vet dungeons (and if it's not low yet it can use some tweaks). There's absolutely no downside and wandering around in the world is what they should promote, because this is a TES game afterall.

    If the vet dungeon is the only way to acquire gears there will be far more people complain about it. You are the only one who complains about getting gearset in the world.
    Edited by hmsdragonfly on October 22, 2016 3:06AM
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  • LaiTash
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    It is indeed the witch festival. Now everyone is farming in public dungeons and dolmens. It wasn't that crowded before. You didn't have to wait much.

    I actually tried them before the festival, it was better, but still almost the same.
    There's absolutely no downside and wandering around in the world is what they should promote, because this is a TES game afterall.

    Enter dungeon. Get to the boss. Find it's not there. Wait a few minutes till it respawns. Mindlessly kill it in seconds. Repeat. I don't see how it's a TES game now. It's more like some generic trash noname mmo.
    If the vet dungeon is the only way to acquire gears there will be far more people complain about it. You are the only one who complains about getting gearset in the world.

    I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining about the drop rates that encourage farming. I also don't like it about vet dungeons but at least those require some actual effort to complete, and funny thing is, once you've done gathering your gear there's not much point in doing them and you'd better go and farm dolmens/publics because this way you can sell the loot. Yep, it will come to an end, eventually, but not after the festival. It's ends when the market bloats with ridiculously underpriced items and everything becomes vendor trash.
  • Tholian1
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    Eleusian wrote: »
    People seem to get mad they can't hide in gold & silver zones anymore. Should have launched this way

    The silver and gold zones were the only way I could feel like I was playing a true TES game honestly. Being able to quest without others running past me in a race to finish. Being able to enjoy a delve the same as I did in Skyrim without, again, the xp grinders and runners leaving just a trail of bodies and ruining the immersive nature of what other TES games naturally possess. The overcrowding and the addition of dueling in the cities has really destroyed what little immersion the game had left and makes it feel less like a TES rpg.

    While I do enjoy the idea that players can now go basically anywhere like in the real TES games, the less populated gold zones and the immersive TES experience will be missed by me in this game.
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  • SilentBoomstick
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    You have to be trolling to reference angry joe you do know he is a troll right? He does his reviews to get people like you to click on his links.

    What mmos have you played that "manage their game better"? What specifics beside too many people and questing by yourself are you referring to?

    Besides your lack of specifics, referring to Angry Joe another big mistake you made was by going with trying to speak for "everyone" trust me buddy you don't speak for "everyone" so let's just drop that QQ.
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    Let me think now, I have played WOW, league of legends, DOTA 1 DOTA 2, and starcraft (only the first one).
  • Banana
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    :D
    Roll it back to 1.5 while your at it. My DK was better then.
    Edited by Banana on October 22, 2016 6:42AM
  • Majic
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    One Tamriel isn't the problem.

    The problem is that most of the game gets worse the more players are present.

    Fix that, and One Tamriel will be awesome.
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  • Katahdin
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Everybody LOVES the hard new world bosses.. best thing since sliced bread. Everyone JUMPING for joy because you need a group of at least 4 CP160s to do most of them.

    Unless the boss is in a popular zone where the drops are desirable, there is never anyone there and you have to beg in map chat for help.

    Yeah these bosses are that great, no one wants to do half of them.

    3 people can kill a world boss, not 4.

    Like if you can solo a dolmen. That's what I do all the time. You also need 2 more people to do it right? So, world boss now takes the same amount of time, the same number of people, and have the same quality of loots as a dolmen.

    What's your issue again?

    I was at one in Stonefalls with 4-5 sub 50s and me a CP600+ We wiped twice on it. The boss disappeared and hasnt spawned again since.

    I can solo dolmens. You dont need 3 people for a dolmen.

    SOME of the bosses can be done with 3 CP160+ people. Good luck getting that in Stonefalls, Auridon , Glenumbra, Grahtwood, Stormhaven and Deshaan. Many of them require a tank or one person is endlessly kiting the stupid thing hoping everyone else can DPS it before he runs out of stam and get one or two because the bosses do 15K-20K+ HP a hit.

    So to get them done quickly or at all in some cases, you need a half zerg of people CP160+. Some of the maps there is nobody doing them because the set loot is not desirable. THAT is my problem. I want to do the content but now I need half a zerg to do it and no one is there because unlike the people on this forum that are thrilled to death with this change, the majority of the player base apparently thinks its too much of a pain in the neck to do. They cant get help and they just get wiped over and over so why bother.
    Edited by Katahdin on October 22, 2016 7:51AM
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  • AzraelKrieg
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    You have to be trolling to reference angry joe you do know he is a troll right? He does his reviews to get people like you to click on his links.

    What mmos have you played that "manage their game better"? What specifics beside too many people and questing by yourself are you referring to?

    Besides your lack of specifics, referring to Angry Joe another big mistake you made was by going with trying to speak for "everyone" trust me buddy you don't speak for "everyone" so let's just drop that QQ.

    Let me think now, I have played WOW, league of legends, DOTA 1 DOTA 2, and starcraft (only the first one).[/quote]

    So.... Only casual, overrated garbage? Go back to that stuff then.
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  • itscompton
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    Who is Duecie?

    Questions that need answers.

    He was a legend on PS4. If you don't know who he is then you probably don't play on PS4 (I don't want to hear your pc master race bs.)

    If you don't know who let me work is then you don't play this game competitively. He is always emperor and you literally cannot compete with his level of skill.
    Lol, I've played on PS4 since release and I've fought that guy in PvP a bunch of times, he was nothing special. Legend? Please.
  • Istoppucks
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    So maybe start playing a single player game like Skyrim, cause you know, in MMOs there are also other players out there... and to be honest, the more, the better.

    .

    1st: He's a console player so take that with a grain of salt.

    Oh look everyone a wanna be cool PC player. You know we all play the same game and it's a very real possibility that bringing ESO to the consoles saved the game.

    I will never understand the desperate as$hats who think just because they play only on a PC somehow the millions and millions who use consoles don't matter. Trust me little buddy I have a beast of a PC and an Xb1 and I'm mature enough to enjoy both and respect both players. I don't respect as$likes like who make comments like above. Get a life you are not a special snowflake because you are a "PC gamer".
  • sean.plackerb14_ESO
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    To each their own, but One Tamriel has been one of my favorite updates to the game since the PC launch. I love how populated the world is now. It seems like pretty much anywhere I go regardless of time of day I can run into at least a couple of people. And the zones have a very healthy population during peak hours.

    One of the things I hated the most was the special CP or Vet instances of the other alliance zones. I gave up on them because of how empty, dead, and boring they were. Now not only can I go and start questing anywhere I want in any order thanks to the scaling, but I can count on at least a decent population in the zone.

    I play primarily on a high end gaming PC, but also have the game for Xbox One. I have noticed more severe issues on the Xbox One version since One Tamriel. Certain towns like Wayrest gets absolutely packed with people in 2 main areas (wayshrine, and dungeon pledge area), with several dueling in a small area. Not only will the frame rate be absolutely garbage (~15FPS or lower), but I've had it cause the game to crash 3 or 4 times. The audio will lock up and loop and the picture will freeze for a few seconds and then return to dashboard.

    Obviously I can get performance hits on my PC when a area is extremely crowded with lots of dueling going on, but keeping at least 30 FPS or above is still no problem, and I've never had it cause the game to crash. So hopefully those issues can get sorted or at least improved on console. The framerate thing probably can't be improved much on console except for having less people per instance of a zone.
    Edited by sean.plackerb14_ESO on October 22, 2016 11:51AM
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  • SaibotLiu
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    OP doesnt think unless a youtube personality says its ok. Thats all I got out of this thread. Also an increased loathing of millennials.
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