One eyed gamers?

Mephilis78 · October 2016

I lost my left eye when I was 2 years old. For the most part I don't notice any difference, but like I said I was 2 and even if there was a big difference I wouldn't remember. So my question, to any one eyed gamers out there, is; Have you noticed a difference in performance playing games?

The only thing I notice it making a big difference with, was working for Burger King and McDonald's I'd have a slightly harder time grabbing all the ingredients, making me a bit slower. I'd have to turn my head to see things others didn't, and depth perception is slightly off. On big orders this would add up and I'd get yelled at for being slow. Wasn't like this in real diner jobs, cause quality over speed.
On the contrary, I'm really good at fencing/HEMA.

I shoot better IRL than in say COD, so what gives?

raglau · October 2016

Mephilis78 wrote: »

I lost my left eye when I was 2 years old. For the most part I don't notice any difference, but like I said I was 2 and even if there was a big difference I wouldn't remember. So my question, to any one eyed gamers out there, is; Have you noticed a difference in performance playing games?

The only thing I notice it making a big difference with, was working for Burger King and McDonald's I'd have a slightly harder time grabbing all the ingredients, making me a bit slower. I'd have to turn my head to see things others didn't, and depth perception is slightly off. On big orders this would add up and I'd get yelled at for being slow. Wasn't like this in real diner jobs, cause quality over speed.
On the contrary, I'm really good at fencing/HEMA.

I shoot better IRL than in say COD, so what gives?

Yes! My best friend does have both eyes but one has degraded to the point of near useless. Generally speaking he has no issues with games or life in general, but when I foolishly asked him if he wanted to come over and try out my Oculus Rift, he gave me a withering look and asked if I was taking the ***

Waffennacht · October 2016

Mephilis78 wrote: »

I lost my left eye when I was 2 years old. For the most part I don't notice any difference, but like I said I was 2 and even if there was a big difference I wouldn't remember. So my question, to any one eyed gamers out there, is; Have you noticed a difference in performance playing games?

The only thing I notice it making a big difference with, was working for Burger King and McDonald's I'd have a slightly harder time grabbing all the ingredients, making me a bit slower. I'd have to turn my head to see things others didn't, and depth perception is slightly off. On big orders this would add up and I'd get yelled at for being slow. Wasn't like this in real diner jobs, cause quality over speed.
On the contrary, I'm really good at fencing/HEMA.

I shoot better IRL than in say COD, so what gives?

Lol at that line. It's like saying guitar hero should make you good at guitar. In video games (fps mostly) it's all about getting a cursor in a specific spot and pushing a button at the right time. Firing a weapon requires not only experience with said weapon (so sights are good, up against shoulder, accustomed to weight etc...) it also requires patience and steady hands, kinda the exact opposite for fps.

As for your eye, I have almost no depth perception (both eyes though) which makes games easier than judging distance irl. A flat screen vs real objects. I would assume your vision would have less of an impact in games than irl,

Btw I really hated working at McDonald's too

THEDKEXPERIENCE · October 2016

People who hassle the one eyed Burger King guy for not going fast enough deserve a special place in hell.

Smasherx74 · October 2016

OP you might have better vision you think.

Most people you can see both of their eyes, but they can only see one of yours.

Totalitarian · October 2016

I still have 2 eyes but losing one only lowers your field of vision by ~30%. The big thing is depth perception, which you get from the overlapping FOV of your eyes. You can test this by covering one eye with your hand.

Waffennacht wrote: »

Mephilis78 wrote: »

I shoot better IRL than in say COD, so what gives?

Lol at that line. It's like saying guitar hero should make you good at guitar. In video games (fps mostly) it's all about getting a cursor in a specific spot and pushing a button at the right time. Firing a weapon requires not only experience with said weapon (so sights are good, up against shoulder, accustomed to weight etc...) it also requires patience and steady hands, kinda the exact opposite for fps.

Yeah, basically what video games teach you about comparative IRL things is limited. Although I was told that playing Drums in Rock Band was similar enough to real ones.

FPS games don't prepare you for shooting. As it turns out, firearms are a lot more powerful, heavier, and a lot more loud, than a gamer would expect. That being said, the shooting stance that COD has is a pretty good example of one you should have, and replicating it will give you a better stance than 90% of the Iraqi military.

Nestor · October 2016

I wonder just how much the Depth Perception difference really is in a 3D game being rendered on a flat 2D screen. The 3D cues are more perspective and being partially hidden by mobs that are closer to the player (in that mobs farther away should be smaller but not all mobs are the same height to begin with)

Also, the targeting systems can help with what mob you want to target, if just using the Red Indicator as you look around or the Tab key to move to a different target in the group.

So I would think that having one eye, or rather, a lack of depth perception (which can be caused by Astigmatism to an extent) would not be as much as issue in video gaming as it would in say a game where players are moving around a field or something. But, @Mephilis78 would be better able to give insight on that.

DocFrost72 · October 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

People who hassle the one eyed Burger King guy for not going fast enough deserve a special place in hell.

Right next to the people who pee in the pool.

My father is near blind in one eye OP. He has trouble with games for an entirely different reason though.

Mephilis78 · October 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

Mephilis78 wrote: »

I lost my left eye when I was 2 years old. For the most part I don't notice any difference, but like I said I was 2 and even if there was a big difference I wouldn't remember. So my question, to any one eyed gamers out there, is; Have you noticed a difference in performance playing games?

The only thing I notice it making a big difference with, was working for Burger King and McDonald's I'd have a slightly harder time grabbing all the ingredients, making me a bit slower. I'd have to turn my head to see things others didn't, and depth perception is slightly off. On big orders this would add up and I'd get yelled at for being slow. Wasn't like this in real diner jobs, cause quality over speed.
On the contrary, I'm really good at fencing/HEMA.

I shoot better IRL than in say COD, so what gives?

Lol at that line. It's like saying guitar hero should make you good at guitar. In video games (fps mostly) it's all about getting a cursor in a specific spot and pushing a button at the right time. Firing a weapon requires not only experience with said weapon (so sights are good, up against shoulder, accustomed to weight etc...) it also requires patience and steady hands, kinda the exact opposite for fps.

As for your eye, I have almost no depth perception (both eyes though) which makes games easier than judging distance irl. A flat screen vs real objects. I would assume your vision would have less of an impact in games than irl,

Btw I really hated working at McDonald's too

Yep i know the guitar thing personally, too. But you'd think if i had good enough reflexes to shoot clay pigeons, I'd be quick enough to play COD.

Depth thing doesn't bother me as much as someone who lost it later in life, cause I really don't remember anything else. When people ask how I judge distance I tell them that it's just like looking at a well made painting.

I was just wonder if it just inherently effects gaming reflexes, i.e. no eye to coordinate my left hand with... thankfully it's the left...

Minno · October 2016

Not a one eyed gamer nor a biologist/medical professional. I am a lighting designer and constantly we have to design lighting at task heights for office spaces. This means we are trying to get lighting to be comfortable at a computer desk with a bright monitor.

Typically eyes get worse with age. In relation to lighting, your eyes at age 40 need more lighting to do the tasks we used to do at age 20. For computer screens the challenge is coming up with lighting that will not create glare on the monitors. And this solution is to have most of your general lighting aimed "upwards" or what's called "indirect". Basically your lighting is to shine up against a white ceiling, bounce off and hit your desk with a very smooth layer of light. Then add a high output task light at the desk so the user can control based on their needs.

Sometimes you need to have goods monitor placement:
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/ergonomics/office/monitor_positioning.html

Basically if your eyes feel dry and difficult to focus, it's often your lighting causes your eyes to stain harder on the computer screen. The other times it's mostly because your eyes need rest.

I'm available to help players add better lighting to their computer stations. Ask me any questions

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Edit:
WebMD has an interesting look on this.http://www.webmd.com/eye-health/computer-vision-syndrome

Mephilis78 · October 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

People who hassle the one eyed Burger King guy for not going fast enough deserve a special place in hell.

Thanks but I don't wanna be that guy... lol reminds me to much of the PC police in my generation. I do appreciate the sentiment though.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · October 2016

Actually even though I have 2 eyes I only got glasses about 6 years ago. I went almost 30 years with 20 x 200 vision because I thought that's just how the world looked.

I might have never gotten them if it didn't occur to me that I couldn't read the audibles in Madden.

cjthibs · October 2016

Minno wrote: »

Not a one eyed gamer nor a biologist/medical professional. I am a lighting designer and constantly we have to design lighting at task heights for office spaces. This means we are trying to get lighting to be comfortable at a computer desk with a bright monitor.

Typically eyes get worse with age. In relation to lighting, your eyes at age 40 need more lighting to do the tasks we used to do at age 20. For computer screens the challenge is coming up with lighting that will not create glare on the monitors. And this solution is to have most of your general lighting aimed "upwards" or what's called "indirect". Basically your lighting is to shine up against a white ceiling, bounce off and hit your desk with a very smooth layer of light. Then add a high output task light at the desk so the user can control based on their needs.

Sometimes you need to have goods monitor placement:
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/ergonomics/office/monitor_positioning.html

Basically if your eyes feel dry and difficult to focus, it's often your lighting causes your eyes to stain harder on the computer screen. The other times it's mostly because your eyes need rest.

I'm available to help players add better lighting to their computer stations. Ask me any questions .

How do you feel about anti-blue-light eyewear?
I've actually noticed a decent reduction in the whole dry/blurry eye thing when I remember to wear them.

Ackwalan · October 2016

Mephilis78 wrote: »

I lost my left eye when I was 2 years old. For the most part I don't notice any difference, but like I said I was 2 and even if there was a big difference I wouldn't remember. So my question, to any one eyed gamers out there, is; Have you noticed a difference in performance playing games?

The only thing I notice it making a big difference with, was working for Burger King and McDonald's I'd have a slightly harder time grabbing all the ingredients, making me a bit slower. I'd have to turn my head to see things others didn't, and depth perception is slightly off. On big orders this would add up and I'd get yelled at for being slow. Wasn't like this in real diner jobs, cause quality over speed.
On the contrary, I'm really good at fencing/HEMA.

I shoot better IRL than in say COD, so what gives?

Thar's bold talk from a one eyed fat man,,,,,,sorry couldn't resist.

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Mephilis78 · October 2016

Minno wrote: »

Not a one eyed gamer nor a biologist/medical professional. I am a lighting designer and constantly we have to design lighting at task heights for office spaces. This means we are trying to get lighting to be comfortable at a computer desk with a bright monitor.

Typically eyes get worse with age. In relation to lighting, your eyes at age 40 need more lighting to do the tasks we used to do at age 20. For computer screens the challenge is coming up with lighting that will not create glare on the monitors. And this solution is to have most of your general lighting aimed "upwards" or what's called "indirect". Basically your lighting is to shine up against a white ceiling, bounce off and hit your desk with a very smooth layer of light. Then add a high output task light at the desk so the user can control based on their needs.

Sometimes you need to have goods monitor placement:
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/ergonomics/office/monitor_positioning.html

Basically if your eyes feel dry and difficult to focus, it's often your lighting causes your eyes to stain harder on the computer screen. The other times it's mostly because your eyes need rest.

I'm available to help players add better lighting to their computer stations. Ask me any questions .

Edit:
WebMD has an interesting look on this.http://www.webmd.com/eye-health/computer-vision-syndrome

Any suggestions for console gamers?

Minno · October 2016

cjthibs wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Not a one eyed gamer nor a biologist/medical professional. I am a lighting designer and constantly we have to design lighting at task heights for office spaces. This means we are trying to get lighting to be comfortable at a computer desk with a bright monitor.

Typically eyes get worse with age. In relation to lighting, your eyes at age 40 need more lighting to do the tasks we used to do at age 20. For computer screens the challenge is coming up with lighting that will not create glare on the monitors. And this solution is to have most of your general lighting aimed "upwards" or what's called "indirect". Basically your lighting is to shine up against a white ceiling, bounce off and hit your desk with a very smooth layer of light. Then add a high output task light at the desk so the user can control based on their needs.

Sometimes you need to have goods monitor placement:
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/ergonomics/office/monitor_positioning.html

Basically if your eyes feel dry and difficult to focus, it's often your lighting causes your eyes to stain harder on the computer screen. The other times it's mostly because your eyes need rest.

I'm available to help players add better lighting to their computer stations. Ask me any questions .

How do you feel about anti-blue-light eyewear?
I've actually noticed a decent reduction in the whole dry/blurry eye thing when I remember to wear them.

Cooler color temperature for lighting is best explained in that it matches the sun light at 12pm noon time. According to human Arcadian rhythm, this will be the time the human body is at its best in terms of reaction time, work output, etc.

Warner color temps are related to sunset, and there body begins to relax in its function.

With that said, if you are going to stare at a computer screen for a long time, use a warm filter on your monitors. Your eyes should be strained less looking at warm color temperature than cool.

Minno · October 2016

Mephilis78 wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Not a one eyed gamer nor a biologist/medical professional. I am a lighting designer and constantly we have to design lighting at task heights for office spaces. This means we are trying to get lighting to be comfortable at a computer desk with a bright monitor.

Typically eyes get worse with age. In relation to lighting, your eyes at age 40 need more lighting to do the tasks we used to do at age 20. For computer screens the challenge is coming up with lighting that will not create glare on the monitors. And this solution is to have most of your general lighting aimed "upwards" or what's called "indirect". Basically your lighting is to shine up against a white ceiling, bounce off and hit your desk with a very smooth layer of light. Then add a high output task light at the desk so the user can control based on their needs.

Sometimes you need to have goods monitor placement:
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/ergonomics/office/monitor_positioning.html

Basically if your eyes feel dry and difficult to focus, it's often your lighting causes your eyes to stain harder on the computer screen. The other times it's mostly because your eyes need rest.

I'm available to help players add better lighting to their computer stations. Ask me any questions .

Edit:
WebMD has an interesting look on this.http://www.webmd.com/eye-health/computer-vision-syndrome

Any suggestions for console gamers?

Make sure your TV is away from a window and it's light source. Ideally you shouldn't see any reflections on that monitor.

You could get a floor-lamp near your couch and have it shine upwards. Youll need to keep all other lighting sources off or away from the screen. Basically pretend your TV is a giant mirror and have any light mounted so that it's above the TV.

Sketched an preliminary console gaming setup below.

Mephilis78 · October 2016

Yea glare is a game killer for sure

VaxtinTheWolf · October 2016

I have two eyes. My right eye can legally be considered blind, but It is just very fuzzy/blurred. My left eye can see somewhat clearly up to about a foot away before things begin to lose focus. I have glasses but prefer not to wear them. As far as I know I may have been born with this kind of vision since I had glasses at an early age.

When you live with it, you adjust to what you do have, but can't understand what it's like for something you've never had("Perfect vision") All I do know is that I don't notice the effect of "3D" on my orginial 3DS.

Mephilis78 · October 2016

@VaxtinTheWolf
That's what I'm saying, I'm really well adapted to it so I'm interested in what less fortunate people who lost vision later in life experience. I used to work for a guy who lost his eye in the national guard, but he was already extremely offended that I noticed his eye was fake (even after I explained that I only noticed because I've had fake eyes my whole life) so I never asked him about anything.