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What disease should I catch (WW or Vamp)

KingRegis
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I dunno whether to go vampire or werewolf
I am Regis Solis the wandering warrior socerer
  • Vaerth
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    Neither, best to be normal. WW passives only apply if ultiamte is slotted and this game is full of fire so Vampire is not a good option either. I tried a Dunmer Vampire and still not that good, healing regen cut, passives require stage 3 for good ones, etc. Have to have a skill slotted (and they are bad) for passives.

    IMPO It is not worth taking either of these choices.
    Pact Bloodwraith
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.
    PSN: ***___Chan (3 _s)
    Hybrid, All-Role NB
  • KingRegis
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    Vampire it since I'm a All about that magikarp
    I am Regis Solis the wandering warrior socerer
  • Ommamar
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    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted? Then to really power it you need to get the 300 ultimate and the feed passive to get into WW form and maintain it for any worthwhile amount of time. Whereas vamp you can slot up to two active skill then the ultimate once you unlock it! I found Vamp to go up much quicker.

    As to which one that depends on build to optimize Vamp for magic and WW for stamina.
  • Abeille
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    Ommamar wrote: »
    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted? Then to really power it you need to get the 300 ultimate and the feed passive to get into WW form and maintain it for any worthwhile amount of time. Whereas vamp you can slot up to two active skill then the ultimate once you unlock it! I found Vamp to go up much quicker.

    As to which one that depends on build to optimize Vamp for magic and WW for stamina.

    After you get the passive to feed to increase your transformation duration, it is a matter of going to an area with good mob density and farm and eat them.

    The number of vampire skills on your bar make no difference. Vampire levels with your normal XP you get while leveling, the same that goes towards your level. You will level vampirism quicker the highest your level is, because of that. So maybe that's why, maybe you were already on lvl 50 when you became a vampire. My vampire was lvl 9 when she turned, and she only maxed vampirism on lvl 38 or so.
    Edited by Abeille on October 21, 2016 2:25PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • KingRegis
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Ommamar wrote: »
    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted? Then to really power it you need to get the 300 ultimate and the feed passive to get into WW form and maintain it for any worthwhile amount of time. Whereas vamp you can slot up to two active skill then the ultimate once you unlock it! I found Vamp to go up much quicker.

    As to which one that depends on build to optimize Vamp for magic and WW for stamina.

    After you get the passive to feed to increase your transformation duration, it is a matter of going to an area with good mob density and farm and eat them.

    The number of vampire skills on your bar make no difference. Vampire levels with your normal XP you get while leveling, the same that goes towards your level. You will level vampirism quicker the highest your level is, because of that. So maybe that's why, maybe you were already on lvl 50 when you became a vampire. My vampire was lvl 9 when she turned, and she only maxed vampirism on lvl 38 or so.

    How do I get the bite since the blood fiends I have encountered won't give the disease even I let them hit me for a few minutes

    I am Regis Solis the wandering warrior socerer
  • Abeille
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    KingRegis wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Ommamar wrote: »
    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted? Then to really power it you need to get the 300 ultimate and the feed passive to get into WW form and maintain it for any worthwhile amount of time. Whereas vamp you can slot up to two active skill then the ultimate once you unlock it! I found Vamp to go up much quicker.

    As to which one that depends on build to optimize Vamp for magic and WW for stamina.

    After you get the passive to feed to increase your transformation duration, it is a matter of going to an area with good mob density and farm and eat them.

    The number of vampire skills on your bar make no difference. Vampire levels with your normal XP you get while leveling, the same that goes towards your level. You will level vampirism quicker the highest your level is, because of that. So maybe that's why, maybe you were already on lvl 50 when you became a vampire. My vampire was lvl 9 when she turned, and she only maxed vampirism on lvl 38 or so.

    How do I get the bite since the blood fiends I have encountered won't give the disease even I let them hit me for a few minutes

    Only especial ones that spawn on the last maps of each alliance can give you the disease. They spawn at night and some people say there is something to do with the moon phases (full moons for werewolf, new moons for vampire), but I don't know if it is accurate or just a myth.

    But you can ask another player who is a werewolf/vampire to bite you, too.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • C0wrex
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    We aren't diseases :(


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    "We are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will, to strive, to seek and not to yield."

    -Tennyson, Ulysses
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    Abeille wrote: »
    KingRegis wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Ommamar wrote: »
    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted? Then to really power it you need to get the 300 ultimate and the feed passive to get into WW form and maintain it for any worthwhile amount of time. Whereas vamp you can slot up to two active skill then the ultimate once you unlock it! I found Vamp to go up much quicker.

    As to which one that depends on build to optimize Vamp for magic and WW for stamina.

    After you get the passive to feed to increase your transformation duration, it is a matter of going to an area with good mob density and farm and eat them.

    The number of vampire skills on your bar make no difference. Vampire levels with your normal XP you get while leveling, the same that goes towards your level. You will level vampirism quicker the highest your level is, because of that. So maybe that's why, maybe you were already on lvl 50 when you became a vampire. My vampire was lvl 9 when she turned, and she only maxed vampirism on lvl 38 or so.

    How do I get the bite since the blood fiends I have encountered won't give the disease even I let them hit me for a few minutes

    Only especial ones that spawn on the last maps of each alliance can give you the disease. They spawn at night and some people say there is something to do with the moon phases (full moons for werewolf, new moons for vampire), but I don't know if it is accurate or just a myth.

    But you can ask another player who is a werewolf/vampire to bite you, too.

    If your NA PS4 I'll bite you, message me in game.
    PSN: ***___Chan (3 _s)
    Hybrid, All-Role NB
  • Katahdin
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    Ommamar wrote: »
    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted?

    You get the stam bonus if the ultimate is slotted on the bar. You DO NOT have to be in WW form to get the stam bonus.

    I have leveled WW at least 20 times and Ive been able to do it in about an hour.
    Edited by Katahdin on October 21, 2016 3:11PM
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Dreyloch
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    How about some more info OP?

    Do you PvE or PvP? are you magic or stam build. What class are you playing? Not to be rude, but please give us more to go on before making a thread =(
    "The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"
  • Deceptive_Yoshi
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    They're both suited towards PvP and don't really help very much in PvE and you lose a lot to gain a little.
  • CultOfMMO
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    when i see posts like these i start scratching my head trying to remember when the f was the last time i ever transformed into my fully maxed out WW?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
    vHoF HM 202k Tick-Tock Tormentor (Stamblade)
    vAS HM 111k Immortal Redeemer (Magplar)
    vCR HM 129k Gryphon Heart (Magblade/plar)
    vSS HM 245k NA 2nd Godslayer (Stamcro)
    Magblade vMA 601k
  • argouru
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    The Come Together disease. He'll hold you in his armchair... :)
  • ValkyriesWolf
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    Abeille wrote: »
    KingRegis wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Ommamar wrote: »
    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted? Then to really power it you need to get the 300 ultimate and the feed passive to get into WW form and maintain it for any worthwhile amount of time. Whereas vamp you can slot up to two active skill then the ultimate once you unlock it! I found Vamp to go up much quicker.

    As to which one that depends on build to optimize Vamp for magic and WW for stamina.

    After you get the passive to feed to increase your transformation duration, it is a matter of going to an area with good mob density and farm and eat them.

    The number of vampire skills on your bar make no difference. Vampire levels with your normal XP you get while leveling, the same that goes towards your level. You will level vampirism quicker the highest your level is, because of that. So maybe that's why, maybe you were already on lvl 50 when you became a vampire. My vampire was lvl 9 when she turned, and she only maxed vampirism on lvl 38 or so.

    How do I get the bite since the blood fiends I have encountered won't give the disease even I let them hit me for a few minutes

    Only especial ones that spawn on the last maps of each alliance can give you the disease. They spawn at night and some people say there is something to do with the moon phases (full moons for werewolf, new moons for vampire), but I don't know if it is accurate or just a myth.

    But you can ask another player who is a werewolf/vampire to bite you, too.

    If your NA PS4 I'll bite you, message me in game.

    And if you aren't on PS4 NA, but on PC EU Server, then I could bite you! Can one use any crypt for vamp transformation now, with One Tamriel? Or is it still only your "home crypt" where you can be bitten by another player?
    Metal forever \m/
  • Dracane
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    Stay healthy.
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

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  • ValkyriesWolf
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Stay healthy.

    Thanks buddy^^ :D
    Metal forever \m/
  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    Vampirism isn't a Disease, only weak mortals who fear vampire's think it is.

    A disease doesn't make you immortal or give you shapeshifting powers. and it certainly doesn't follow you into the afterlife.
    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on October 21, 2016 4:08PM
  • Yamenstein
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    Abeille wrote: »
    KingRegis wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Ommamar wrote: »
    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    How do you figure that as the WW ultimate that doesn't give the stamina benefit outside WW form has to be slotted? Then to really power it you need to get the 300 ultimate and the feed passive to get into WW form and maintain it for any worthwhile amount of time. Whereas vamp you can slot up to two active skill then the ultimate once you unlock it! I found Vamp to go up much quicker.

    As to which one that depends on build to optimize Vamp for magic and WW for stamina.

    After you get the passive to feed to increase your transformation duration, it is a matter of going to an area with good mob density and farm and eat them.

    The number of vampire skills on your bar make no difference. Vampire levels with your normal XP you get while leveling, the same that goes towards your level. You will level vampirism quicker the highest your level is, because of that. So maybe that's why, maybe you were already on lvl 50 when you became a vampire. My vampire was lvl 9 when she turned, and she only maxed vampirism on lvl 38 or so.

    How do I get the bite since the blood fiends I have encountered won't give the disease even I let them hit me for a few minutes

    Only especial ones that spawn on the last maps of each alliance can give you the disease. They spawn at night and some people say there is something to do with the moon phases (full moons for werewolf, new moons for vampire), but I don't know if it is accurate or just a myth.

    But you can ask another player who is a werewolf/vampire to bite you, too.

    Love how it's become a myth! :smile: unless they changed it, it should be like that hehe. Now a days everyone gives away bites for 1k gold. Back when it came out, so expensive. I remember trying to figure out how to get that bite ages ago lol
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  • Callous2208
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    Try em both out and see which you prefer. Unlike herpes, neither of these diseases lasts forever if you don't want them too!
  • KimberlyannKitsuragi
    It depends. If you're stamina go werewolf and if magicka go vampire
    Feel free to add me. I'm part of the Gummy Guars PC/Mac NA server. Master crafter and working on getting 9 traits on everything
  • Mitoice
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    theyre both useless, you have to sacrifice more than what you get.... as a vamp mag dks are gonna have a blast with you on pvp and vamps on pve are a disaster, especially on city of ash
  • KingRegis
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    Mitoice wrote: »
    theyre both useless, you have to sacrifice more than what you get.... as a vamp mag dks are gonna have a blast with you on pvp and vamps on pve are a disaster, especially on city of ash
    I was recently told there's a way to mitigate the fire damage but they never went into detail

    I am Regis Solis the wandering warrior socerer
  • bowmanz607
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    Depends on playstyle.

    First let me cure one mistake fact. Vamp no longer requires having a skill slotted for passives.

    So vamp is good for regen and being faster while stealthed if your into that. I like it. It is best suited for a mag playstyle and has a decent aoe ult. Health regen is pretty trash unless you are building a health regen build. So not too much to worry about there. That said, definitely viable in no cp campaign for Stam. Also, as a stam nb I love it for sneak speed and regen in pvp since I like high mag and stam recovery as a nb. For pve as a stam build probably not great choice. In pvp you do have to worry about mag dk, but that is really it and given the state of them in pvp you do not run across them much. For pve it can be a pain to have weakness to fire in certain places, but not impossible. I have done vcoa as vamp. That said, you can also feed to stage one of you do fire stuff in pve.

    For WW it is definitely much better suited for Stam unless in non cp campaign. Must have ww ult slotted to get benefit of passive, but unlike vamp you only have a debufff when in ww form. So basically just don't go ww or have it slotted and you will be like a normal person. When transformed it is more for single target but can be very powerful especially in pvp.

    Ultimately it comes down to what you are looking for.
  • Danksta
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    been vamp since launch. I've bounced between magic, stam, and hybrid (i only play 1 character) and vamp can support any of the roles (but obviously excelling with more magic focus). WW is all stam, so if you are going that way then I would do that.

    That all said, WW is the easiest to level. My recommendation is if the above didn't answer your question, try both but WW first. You'll get all the associated achievements and dyes by doing so and know which one you like better.

    Just make sure you spec your stats and gear accordingly when you change infections.

    I've never done WW but it's not like vamp takes long to max out. Takes me a little over an hour with an XP pot.
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  • Nyghthowler
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    Either way if you EVER decide to get cured, DON'T FORGET to reset all your skill points. If you get cured, the points spent in the skill tree do not get automatically refunded.
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  • KingRegis
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    Either way if you EVER decide to get cured, DON'T FORGET to reset all your skill points. If you get cured, the points spent in the skill tree do not get automatically refunded.
    Great shout
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  • Iselin
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    Basic rule: stamina builds = WW and magicka builds = vamp.
  • Chrlynsch
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    Werewolfs can shine as hybrids.
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  • MaKTaiL
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    Ever since they forced us to slot the ultimate tô gain the benefits from being a Warewolf it hás become useless for me.
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