So I'll ask again when does the crown sale start on Xbox??

N0TPLAYER2 · October 2016

Same as title. Gina confirmed an Xbox crown sale Tuesday. It's Thursday now. No crown sale has happened. Please update us with a time it will start, or confirm it's not happening. Something! I've been waiting to buy 11000 crowns once the sale happens, but not before.

So I'll say again, what's the hold up? And.. TAKE MY MONEY!

N0TPLAYER2 · October 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno

NewBlacksmurf · October 2016

No sale....and no comments from Gina since her original comment which seems a mistake on Xbox one

jrgray93 · October 2016

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

NewBlacksmurf · October 2016

jrgray93 wrote: »

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

Funny...usually the sale is always on Xbox one and less often on PS4. Does that mean both Sony and Microsoft are awful circumstancially from one deal to another?

Sigtric · October 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

Funny...usually the sale is always on Xbox one and less often on PS4. Does that mean both Sony and Microsoft are awful circumstancially from one deal to another?

You could say that maybe. Both Sony and MS are in complete control of their own ecosystems and tie up the Dev's hands (usually only temporarily) as they go through cert processes to get content out or change pricing in the Sony or MS stores.

NewBlacksmurf · October 2016

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

Funny...usually the sale is always on Xbox one and less often on PS4. Does that mean both Sony and Microsoft are awful circumstancially from one deal to another?

You could say that maybe. Both Sony and MS are in complete control of their own ecosystems and tie up the Dev's hands (usually only temporarily) as they go through cert processes to get content out or change pricing in the Sony or MS stores.

How is that bad?

To me if you're a developer and you want to offer something. Hopefully that's been a plan 6-9 months out.
I honestly can't blame Xbox or Sony if a developer is waiting and not submitting something like a discount months in advance.

Releasing a game is different but I'd also hold a developer responsible koreso than Xbox or Sony because if you want to have something released, submit it 120 days ahead so you know what edits or problems you need to fix

This game literally has some of the worse bugs upon updates so I'm tempted to believe that they are not contacting the console teams early enough in advance. PTS hits and they don't have a firm date yet....for consoles

Sigtric · October 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

Funny...usually the sale is always on Xbox one and less often on PS4. Does that mean both Sony and Microsoft are awful circumstancially from one deal to another?

You could say that maybe. Both Sony and MS are in complete control of their own ecosystems and tie up the Dev's hands (usually only temporarily) as they go through cert processes to get content out or change pricing in the Sony or MS stores.

How is that bad?

To me if you're a developer and you want to offer something. Hopefully that's been a plan 6-9 months out.
I honestly can't blame Xbox or Sony if a developer is waiting and not submitting something like a discount months in advance.

Releasing a game is different but I'd also hold a developer responsible koreso than Xbox or Sony because if you want to have something released, submit it 120 days ahead so you know what edits or problems you need to fix

This game literally has some of the worse bugs upon updates so I'm tempted to believe that they are not contacting the console teams early enough in advance. PTS hits and they don't have a firm date yet....for consoles

I don't necessarily think it is bad, it just really depends on an individuals perspective.

However, when it comes to that content specifically, especially with patches and updates, 120 days is tough because they have to submit the final product, not a possible one.

When it comes to the sales it's still up to Sony or MS to flip the switch on the pricing. Hard to say when ZOS notified intent/asked for a sale.

I'm just throwing this information out there for people to know. I'm indifferent really because even though I have ESO on console I don't really play it there.

makeyurself · October 2016

It would be nice to get some clarification rather than the silence. I tried asking on Twitter but no response. I want to pick up some crowns but since sales are in the air it would just be nice to know if I should wait a few days or until next week, whatever it is (if anything).

N0TPLAYER2 · October 2016

makeyurself wrote: »

It would be nice to get some clarification rather than the silence. I tried asking on Twitter but no response. I want to pick up some crowns but since sales are in the air it would just be nice to know if I should wait a few days or until next week, whatever it is (if anything).

Same boat. A simple yes, no, or soon would be appreciated. Thanks!

NewBlacksmurf · October 2016

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

Funny...usually the sale is always on Xbox one and less often on PS4. Does that mean both Sony and Microsoft are awful circumstancially from one deal to another?

You could say that maybe. Both Sony and MS are in complete control of their own ecosystems and tie up the Dev's hands (usually only temporarily) as they go through cert processes to get content out or change pricing in the Sony or MS stores.

How is that bad?

To me if you're a developer and you want to offer something. Hopefully that's been a plan 6-9 months out.
I honestly can't blame Xbox or Sony if a developer is waiting and not submitting something like a discount months in advance.

Releasing a game is different but I'd also hold a developer responsible koreso than Xbox or Sony because if you want to have something released, submit it 120 days ahead so you know what edits or problems you need to fix

This game literally has some of the worse bugs upon updates so I'm tempted to believe that they are not contacting the console teams early enough in advance. PTS hits and they don't have a firm date yet....for consoles

I don't necessarily think it is bad, it just really depends on an individuals perspective.

However, when it comes to that content specifically, especially with patches and updates, 120 days is tough because they have to submit the final product, not a possible one.

When it comes to the sales it's still up to Sony or MS to flip the switch on the pricing. Hard to say when ZOS notified intent/asked for a sale.

I'm just throwing this information out there for people to know. I'm indifferent really because even though I have ESO on console I don't really play it there.

But actually no they don't have to submit a final product. @Sigtric
My point is what's submitted is always a buggy mess with sometimes game breaking items.

The console only ensure the game won't break the unit and complies with console specific features....but they release an update and then always have to patch it within 4 weeks so even so it's not a final product.

waterfairy · October 2016

Sorry I mentioned that I was upset by 1T changes and not buying crowns so Gina said f- that, no sale for anyone

Sigtric · October 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

Funny...usually the sale is always on Xbox one and less often on PS4. Does that mean both Sony and Microsoft are awful circumstancially from one deal to another?

You could say that maybe. Both Sony and MS are in complete control of their own ecosystems and tie up the Dev's hands (usually only temporarily) as they go through cert processes to get content out or change pricing in the Sony or MS stores.

How is that bad?

To me if you're a developer and you want to offer something. Hopefully that's been a plan 6-9 months out.
I honestly can't blame Xbox or Sony if a developer is waiting and not submitting something like a discount months in advance.

Releasing a game is different but I'd also hold a developer responsible koreso than Xbox or Sony because if you want to have something released, submit it 120 days ahead so you know what edits or problems you need to fix

This game literally has some of the worse bugs upon updates so I'm tempted to believe that they are not contacting the console teams early enough in advance. PTS hits and they don't have a firm date yet....for consoles

I don't necessarily think it is bad, it just really depends on an individuals perspective.

However, when it comes to that content specifically, especially with patches and updates, 120 days is tough because they have to submit the final product, not a possible one.

When it comes to the sales it's still up to Sony or MS to flip the switch on the pricing. Hard to say when ZOS notified intent/asked for a sale.

I'm just throwing this information out there for people to know. I'm indifferent really because even though I have ESO on console I don't really play it there.

But actually no they don't have to submit a final product. @Sigtric
My point is what's submitted is always a buggy mess with sometimes game breaking items.

The console only ensure the game won't break the unit and complies with console specific features....but they release an update and then always have to patch it within 4 weeks so even so it's not a final product.

It has to be the final for that release. Yep bugs will still get in but the patch that is submitted is the one that is pushed unless it doesn't get certified. At least this is the way it was explained by a different dev house to me when we were speaking about their release to console. Final product was a poor choice in terminology on my part.

To get back on topic though, the matter at hand here is there is a very good chance that MS is the one holding up the beginning of the sale. Communication from ZOS would be nice for the folks waiting though, even if it is just to say it's being worked on/no specific information yet.

rivenjr · October 2016

I'd say this is a MSFT issue and we should all be complaining to the Microsoft store customer service rather than dragging ZOS thru the mud on this one. Join me and take this feedback directly to Microsoft Xbox Store customer service. Tell them how you feel. I personally, will purchase only if they are on sale. Not like it costs MSFT or ZOS more money to make more friggin crown Xp scrolls. Every platform should get fair and equal treatment.

nvsg · November 2016

yea im about to lose my *** seeing pc and ps4 had theres in september

NewBlacksmurf · November 2016

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I'd assume the answer is when Microsoft stops being a horrible company and restricting developers from doing things on their platform.

Funny...usually the sale is always on Xbox one and less often on PS4. Does that mean both Sony and Microsoft are awful circumstancially from one deal to another?

You could say that maybe. Both Sony and MS are in complete control of their own ecosystems and tie up the Dev's hands (usually only temporarily) as they go through cert processes to get content out or change pricing in the Sony or MS stores.

How is that bad?

To me if you're a developer and you want to offer something. Hopefully that's been a plan 6-9 months out.
I honestly can't blame Xbox or Sony if a developer is waiting and not submitting something like a discount months in advance.

Releasing a game is different but I'd also hold a developer responsible koreso than Xbox or Sony because if you want to have something released, submit it 120 days ahead so you know what edits or problems you need to fix

This game literally has some of the worse bugs upon updates so I'm tempted to believe that they are not contacting the console teams early enough in advance. PTS hits and they don't have a firm date yet....for consoles

I don't necessarily think it is bad, it just really depends on an individuals perspective.

However, when it comes to that content specifically, especially with patches and updates, 120 days is tough because they have to submit the final product, not a possible one.

When it comes to the sales it's still up to Sony or MS to flip the switch on the pricing. Hard to say when ZOS notified intent/asked for a sale.

I'm just throwing this information out there for people to know. I'm indifferent really because even though I have ESO on console I don't really play it there.

But actually no they don't have to submit a final product. @Sigtric
My point is what's submitted is always a buggy mess with sometimes game breaking items.

The console only ensure the game won't break the unit and complies with console specific features....but they release an update and then always have to patch it within 4 weeks so even so it's not a final product.

It has to be the final for that release. Yep bugs will still get in but the patch that is submitted is the one that is pushed unless it doesn't get certified. At least this is the way it was explained by a different dev house to me when we were speaking about their release to console. Final product was a poor choice in terminology on my part.

To get back on topic though, the matter at hand here is there is a very good chance that MS is the one holding up the beginning of the sale. Communication from ZOS would be nice for the folks waiting though, even if it is just to say it's being worked on/no specific information yet.

ZOS has on at least two occasions offered a sale and left off either one platform or an EU server so to go off and say it's Microsoft's issue is pretty much a wild blame game.

I could see if ZOS had run in's with Microsoft on sales before but they never have. Doesn't it make more sense that ZOS would've said the sale will be on PS4 and PC only as they did in the past when the sales were PC and Xbox one only.

They said on all platforms and then days later said it was a mistake.
This means the meant to offer the sale on all but didn't do whatever was needed for Xbox one.

Literally as this sale was suppose to occur, Bethesda had a sale on all their games on Xbox one so this is pretty much a ZOS mistake.
Just like their mistakes on PS4 in the past