This is another thread suggesting that RNG sucks and the game needs a token system. Well, the vast majority of us agree with you, but ZOS does not seem to. They view RNG as the only carrot they have to keep us playing. Shame, the game itself should be the carrot.

Personally, I would like a vendor that sells specific shoulders for 50 keys, but also keeping the chests if you want to roll the dice. I think that is a reasonable number of dungeon runs (25 HMs) to get a guaranteed drop. Since keys cant be traded or put in a bank, that would mean 9 days of running every pledge on HM would get you a shoulder. I would be fine if they doubled that too be honest.

Lucious90 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

This is another thread suggesting that RNG sucks and the game needs a token system. Well, the vast majority of us agree with you, but ZOS does not seem to. They view RNG as the only carrot they have to keep us playing. Shame, the game itself should be the carrot.

Personally, I would like a vendor that sells specific shoulders for 50 keys, but also keeping the chests if you want to roll the dice. I think that is a reasonable number of dungeon runs (25 HMs) to get a guaranteed drop. Since keys cant be traded or put in a bank, that would mean 9 days of running every pledge on HM would get you a shoulder. I would be fine if they doubled that too be honest.

Well they should make deeper content and get rid of the 6 month content drop schedule...

I love the idea of a token system for both pve and pvp, heck they could do a different monster set for the undaunted than what drops, to give variety, and pvp specific sets in cyrodil.

I remember *flashback* Wow implemented a system similar for pve, justice and valor armor, which worked to get you into end game raid progression, but was out classed by the harder raid gear sets. Same thing with pvp, they had gear to get you in the door, but better gear as you progressed through the season

Well ZOS sort of has this now. You can craft gear to get you in the door, and grind endlessly until your eyes bleed if you want to min/max to the Nth degree. I dont like to admit it, but monster sets work this way. You can get enough keys in about 2 weeks to get most of the shoulders in a bad trait. One trait on one armor piece is barely noticeable (weapons are a totally different story). People have set VMA records with a purple shoulder in the wrong trait.

That being said, I am a min/maxer and I would rather not run a monster set than run it in prosperous. Haha #Tokensystem

Phinix1 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

This is another thread suggesting that RNG sucks and the game needs a token system. Well, the vast majority of us agree with you, but ZOS does not seem to. They view RNG as the only carrot they have to keep us playing. Shame, the game itself should be the carrot.

ZOS is dead wrong.

The RNG system is the worst in the entire gaming industry and is the reason I do not run any group content anymore at all.

This has caused me to play far less, buy less on the crown store, and invest in DLC so I can play for free.

If they think they are keeping players by refusing to adopt a sane and standard token system to grant GUARANTEED GAINS then they are mental.

If anything, the RNG trait system is the main reason I have been feeling pushed away from the game.

Couldnt agree more. I think RNG will always be a thing to some degree, but it shouldnt exist for certain things. For anything that is BOE or BOG, I can live with it. I have been able to get most of the new sets I wanted in 10-20 runs in perfect traits, which is no biggie.

The 2 things that remain are VMA weapons and Monster Shoulders. They cant be traded or sold. I am admittedly still playing the RNG game with shoulders. I have everything I need in a bad trait, and am down to 2 or 3 things I would like in a perfect trait. I will give it a solid push for another few weeks, but then I will have what I have.

VMA on the other hand, I have just given up. Again, I have every weapon in a bad trait, but still no Sharp Inferno, Dagger, or Bow, (3 of the 4 that matter for PVE DPS). I am over it. I run it once in a great while when I am bored, but that's it. If they introduced a token system requiring even as much as 50 runs for a guaranteed item, I would be back in there tonight. I know many elite players that have left the game over bad VMA RNG. Hard to blame them, really...

WalksonGraves wrote: »

There has to be a better way to complete a monster set than praying to rngesus. Make them drop in dungeons so we can farm traits.

besides that it will never happen, I have a question:

How lesser RNG would it be if the sets would drop directly in a dungeon, compared to dropping from a chest? It would only save some little time (which you need to return to Undaunted Enclave to open the chest, yes), but the RNG will still be the same