Yeah, I'm fine with it.

If I decide I really want the Motif, and I have the cash available at the time, I'll buy it.

If I decide i don't want it, then I simply don't buy it. For me, it's an easy yes or no decision.

There's plenty of other great looking Motif's in the game that I can use to personalize my character. Having one or a few of them only available in the Crown Store doesn't bother me a bit.

in truth i have no idea, i mean they are better than loot boxes but then you gotta use mimics to actually use them

It's a purely cosmetic item. It has no implications on game balance. In a game without a subscription fee, that is exactly the sort of item most appropriate for the cash shop.

In fact, let's hope that ZOS is successful with this, that they make plenty of money on awesome-looking cosmetics. We want them to make money. We don't want them to turn into another Archeage/ Neverwinter pay-to-win game, where the cash shop is the clear path to making your character powerful.

ZOS has a very reasonable B2P model. Even as a subscriber, I am happy about that, as it preserves the integrity of the gameplay.

Store exclusive motif with differing styles for male and female? No, I'm not ok with it. Not after the giant deal Zos made about not creating male and female armor styles in game anymore. Changing two existing styles, Orc and Redguard, saying only male artwork would be used, and then releasing a Crown Store only motif that has two different styles... The most blatant lie I've seen to date.

I probably would have bought it, if it hadn't gone back on their earlier statement. Why do they think obvious lies will sell more than just keeping the old styles and having a new, holiday style in the store? Incompetent crown store management is the only reason I can think of. Do they think no one notices?

Yes, so long as it shares a style material already existing in the game. Grim could have shared Daedra hearts.

The current system, where you need an artificial source to create a material that doesn't exist in the world, is just bad design. It creates a paradox, because you're saying there is a material but there isn't an original material so the style couldn't exist in the first place. Unless there's some divine excuse, which is bad design and bad writing.

From a marketing standpoint, it also creates a crown store dependency.
It also makes it easier for them to say, hey, you get mimic stones in the crates. Why not buy some of those?

I think they did it the right way here. They could of easily bumped the price up well over what they normally asked for Motifs like they did with the Dro m'Athra Senche. But instead they marked it down to less than half the price and made it a bundle with 54 mimic stones that normally go for more than the motif was going for.

I bought it because I felt like it was actually a deal. I hope that this doesnt become a regular thing and I would be fine with these motifs as long as they remain Event Motifs and not something entirely separate. As long as motifs dont start showing up in the Store over what could be introduced in game. Ill be fine with the occasional store exclusive motif.

TheValkyn wrote: »

The motif was free... You paid 2200 crowns for 54 mimic stones which is a discount on their regular price.

By this logic i`ll give you a free apex mount, you just need to pay for the 10000 mimic stones i bundle it with. The package is 200$ but the mount is totally free! Good deal!

Since Ill never do Malstrom and have Vet Yellow weapons ect I stay within my means and craft Pvp Non vet or Non CP and Pve when I need to do things like the event thus Im not achievement driven and a gotta have it person I play average 3 hrs give or take so time is a premium to me hell played since beta and CP 261 highest toon

What I do have is stable job stable family extra income that I can use to make up for my lack of and as a subber to game my purchase of any crown item helps carry the none paying .

In my eyes this is a perk ( non game breaking) that gives a little bit to those that give them a boost

What choice do I have? I mean it really doesn't matter if I am ok with it or not, they do what they do and when it gets bad enough I will leave. Till then I stay.

It has ruined crafting for me though.

I collect motifs for completion on my crafter, I don't like a good 80% or more of them. I also collect to craft for others. I refuse to buy the motif from the crown store out of principle. Because if I bought this one, I would be forced for the same reason to buy the next one and on and on. And because my crafter will no longer be complete no mater what, I will no longer pay gold for other motifs. I will learn them if they drop for me and that's it.

And because my crafter will no longer be complete, I will no longer offer my services for others. It saved so much time by me being able to say I know everything, then they could choose. Instead of going back and forth "do you have this do you have that."

I will continue to play the game, but part of that game is now dead to me.

It doesn't bother me at all. Motifs are just appearance.

Daraugh wrote: »

Store exclusive motif with differing styles for male and female? No, I'm not ok with it. Not after the giant deal Zos made about not creating male and female armor styles in game anymore. Changing two existing styles, Orc and Redguard, saying only male artwork would be used, and then releasing a Crown Store only motif that has two different styles... The most blatant lie I've seen to date.

I probably would have bought it, if it hadn't gone back on their earlier statement. Why do they think obvious lies will sell more than just keeping the old styles and having a new, holiday style in the store? Incompetent crown store management is the only reason I can think of. Do they think no one notices?

Really?! So the "We will never go the B2P/F2P route and will always be a subscription based model!" was less blatant then this?

As to the original question, as has been pointed out, it is simply an appearance item with no game fundamental benefit to the player. So if that is what you want to spend your money on go ahead! I have no issue with ZOS releasing cosmetic stuff to make money off.

As long as they stay reasonably priced. I think 2200 crowns for a motif book and a bunch of mimic stones is pretty fair.

No I'm not okay with it... But Ill still buy it, its not a gambling box (which I will never participate in) and its a fair price, plus cosmetic so... Meh. Wish I could change my vote, more I think about it the more I realize this is a non issue, pure cosmetic, not taking advantage, fair business.

So I change my vote to:

Yes

It disappoints me.

We're here to play a game, and that involves building up our characters in various ways. Crafting ability is one of those ways. I'm farming and buying motifs I'll never use for myself because that's part of building up my character and her abilities. It's part of what I do in the course of playing the game.

Having part of that development locked behind real money makes that problematic, especially after every other motif has been available by playing the game. I now have to decide if it's worth spending real money on something that I would normally get by playing the game, except now I don't have that option.

It's nice that some people are happy with the pricing, but looking at it only in relative terms tells a skewed story. At least it's not 5000 crowns like the other motifs. At least it's not in a crown crate. At least you get an equivalent value in mimic stones with it. But it's still $20, the price of an entire DLC, for something that until now I would have gotten by just playing the game. And as much as I like the motif and would actually consider using it, I can't justify that expense even though I could afford it. The mimic stones argument doesn't even work because I would never buy mimic stones as an alternative to what I can get by playing the game, and the only reason to buy them now is because we're forced to use them with this motif.

So I'm not going to throw a hissy fit or threaten to quit playing or whatever, but I do find it disappointing that just playing the game isn't enough anymore. I understand all of the justifications for ZOS finding ways to get people to give them money, but seeing them starting to monetize something that was an integral part of the gameplay experience feels bad, man.

Its goldconvertor. NO!