Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Looks like a L2P issue .

God_flakes wrote: »

I could name names of the pvdoor heros I am seeing running around in a large group of about 30 bravely fighting DC npc's and the 3-5 DC that are on right now. But I won't. I'm curious if this makes you guys feel really OP, though? What are you saying in your teamspeaks? "Awesome! The map is dead! Let's kill some guards and take some keeps and Scrolls!"

Are you not even bored of this scrub gameplay yet?

Kartalin wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

What's wrong with this? How are they pvdoor heroes if they are fighting NPCs and taking keeps? I get your frustration but if their are keeps to take, shouldn't people take them?

It's anti-competitive, you won't get any AP if there's no one left to fight. They can be the big bully all they want but then they'll whine and complain when someone does the same thing to them. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

God_flakes wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

When my alliance takes the map the smart players on the other alliance find ways to get AP and be annoying. I'm not gonna tell how but it's not the end of the world just bcz u have no keeps

I guess I need to be very concrete with some people. Maybe the tenor of my post wasn't CLEAR ENOUGH. I directed the post at the players who were doing this today and who routinely play this way. They know who they are. I'm not sad or worried that DC had no keeps. I'm referencing scrub gameplay ONLY.

Got it?

Typhoios wrote: »

I don't think she said it was only an AD thing. It isn't. It is a bad gameplay thing. PvDooring maps is annoying and only contributes to uneven campaigns as people leave to find more competitive campaigns. I personally don't care as I only care about fighting people and getting AP.

Typhoios wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

When my alliance takes the map the smart players on the other alliance find ways to get AP and be annoying. I'm not gonna tell how but it's not the end of the world just bcz u have no keeps

I guess I need to be very concrete with some people. Maybe the tenor of my post wasn't CLEAR ENOUGH. I directed the post at the players who were doing this today and who routinely play this way. They know who they are. I'm not sad or worried that DC had no keeps. I'm referencing scrub gameplay ONLY.

Got it?

Yeah I dislike those players. A bunch of my guildies will just leave that campaign for another. Funny thing is those players end up following us once their is nothing left to farm.

Then why would you say those players are "doing you a favor" in another post? This type of gameplay kills the campaign for those who like to play the map and care about the points. Those players leave the campaign and then the PvDoor players wonder why the campaign is dead.

Diminish wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

Diminish wrote: »

I don't think she said it was only an AD thing. It isn't. It is a bad gameplay thing. PvDooring maps is annoying and only contributes to uneven campaigns as people leave to find more competitive campaigns. I personally don't care as I only care about fighting people and getting AP.

And you missed the point of my post when I clearly stated this is not JUST an AD thing. Why call out AD in the title? Everyone knows every alliance does this. Ironically, on PS4, I see this more times than not from DC. There was no reason to title this thread the way it is, making AD look like the bad guy. That was my point. If that is the case, I can gather screenshots of DC doing this very same thing all the damn time. It's how people play. What is the point of keeps if nobody tries to dominate and take as many as possible on the map?

You are on a different platform than OP. I think OP plays PC/NA. You can cool it with the faction loyalty. The screenshots were of AD PvDooring a map. OP was calling out certain AD players that she can't name and shame, hence AD in the title. Nowhere does she say only AD does this. This is talking about this occurance of what happend in Cyrodiil. It isn't insight about what always happens in Cyrodiil. Your claims of what DC does on PS4 are not relevant, because that is not the same DC or AD players.

OP called out PC/NA AD players by screenshot and calling out their faction because we can't name and shame players on these forums. It isn't about making AD look like a bad guy. It is about calling out certain players. Even if it was, this AD is not your AD so you really shouldn't be offended.

The point of keeps is to have something to fight over and provide objectives. When you take those keeps when you are pop-locked and no one else is, you aren't PvPing. You are PvEing and that isn't what Cyrodiil is about. This isn't a real war. This is a game, and people exploiting numbers advantages makes it a very uncompetitive PvP environment. This kills the game for a lot of people.

Once again. This isn't an issue for me. I don't like seeing it because it is kind of pathetic to take keeps from people when they aren't there, but I'll fight anywhere on the map, I don't really care what color it is.