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To all MagPlars out there
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americansteel✭✭✭✭Are people really defending radiant spamming? Holy ghost be with this game the amount of unskilled players is ridiculous.
defending RD? I don't think so by the looks of it here I don't see RD defense,
how ever RD is fine what stopped players from spamming RD before the past 2 updates?
don't worry about RD and worry about the insane DPS stamina puts out, these are the problems that face magic users except for sorcerers,
Templars have a hard time with Light armor contending with stam builds unlike before now lets add those poison builds in to equation and we see the game goes farther out of balance.
with a broken malubeth set and heavy armor its no wonder why I see so many Templars using this setup to stay alive longer.
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Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »Radiant Destruction is overpowered. Undodgeable, spammable channel execute. However, in a situation where you are outnumbered, you can't complain. Someone who is outnumbered will always be at a disadvantage.
I was actually surviving as a Stam DK with DragonBlood, Rally and Vigor and Magma Armor. 2-4 guys was no issue. What was an issue was I got hit by 2 RD's and In my kill feed all i see "2500 Dizzying Swing, 15,000 Radiant Destruction, 12,000 Radiant Destruction"
"And the lie detector determined, THAT was a lie!"0 -
leipatemeibbaa✭✭✭Next time when I see you in PVP zone I will Jesus Beam your ass as hard as I can3 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »To all MagPlars out there...you guys who play strategically and plan out builds very well, I salute you. You give me a challenge in PvP.
For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
So it's ok for people in the back ground to sit there sniping I see that as no different to people using Rd , if your fighting more than s few people most likely your going to die anyway
Except you can dodge snipe. Even if you don't see it you can hear it.
Edit: I'm not saying it's any less spineless, just that it's much easier to counter.
...well easier to counter for dodge Horing, stam meta sheeple. Many other builds that take more skill to play have very little trouble dealing with RD.1 -
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✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »To all MagPlars out there...you guys who play strategically and plan out builds very well, I salute you. You give me a challenge in PvP.
For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
So it's ok for people in the back ground to sit there sniping I see that as no different to people using Rd , if your fighting more than s few people most likely your going to die anyway
Except you can dodge snipe. Even if you don't see it you can hear it.
Edit: I'm not saying it's any less spineless, just that it's much easier to counter.
...well easier to counter for dodge Horing, stam meta sheeple. Many other builds that take more skill to play have very little trouble dealing with RD.
I get 2 dodge rolls tops.
People poo poo on Templar DPS RD builds but they have no idea the number of tools it requires to play that way in 5 light armor without dying.
- I have to use mist form. 1 slot gone.
- I also use rapids as a stamina sink. 2 slots gone.
- Immovable pots.
- Invisibilty pots.
- No revovery except from resto staff heavy attacks.
- 2 mage guild abilities that barely get touched to up my DPS. 4 slots gone on the back bar, 2 on the front.
- Breath of Life on both bars so I can spam X, X, X, X fast enough to not get pewpewpew'd from an archer. 5 and 3 slots gone.
That's 8 of 10 slots used before I get a single attack, just so I can have a powerful enough execute to actually execute people without dying.
A good RD spammer is doing way more than just hitting one button. The skill is not in how I killed you. It's in how I just strung together 10 straight kills without dying myself.1 -
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✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »To all MagPlars out there...you guys who play strategically and plan out builds very well, I salute you. You give me a challenge in PvP.
For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
So it's ok for people in the back ground to sit there sniping I see that as no different to people using Rd , if your fighting more than s few people most likely your going to die anyway
Except you can dodge snipe. Even if you don't see it you can hear it.
Edit: I'm not saying it's any less spineless, just that it's much easier to counter.
...well easier to counter for dodge Horing, stam meta sheeple. Many other builds that take more skill to play have very little trouble dealing with RD.
Kiddo, I've been running stam since magica was the meta.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA0 -
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✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »To all MagPlars out there...you guys who play strategically and plan out builds very well, I salute you. You give me a challenge in PvP.
For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
So it's ok for people in the back ground to sit there sniping I see that as no different to people using Rd , if your fighting more than s few people most likely your going to die anyway
Except you can dodge snipe. Even if you don't see it you can hear it.
Edit: I'm not saying it's any less spineless, just that it's much easier to counter.
...well easier to counter for dodge Horing, stam meta sheeple. Many other builds that take more skill to play have very little trouble dealing with RD.
I get 2 dodge rolls tops.
People poo poo on Templar DPS RD builds but they have no idea the number of tools it requires to play that way in 5 light armor without dying.
- I have to use mist form. 1 slot gone.
- I also use rapids as a stamina sink. 2 slots gone.
- Immovable pots.
- Invisibilty pots.
- No revovery except from resto staff heavy attacks.
- 2 mage guild abilities that barely get touched to up my DPS. 4 slots gone on the back bar, 2 on the front.
- Breath of Life on both bars so I can spam X, X, X, X fast enough to not get pewpewpew'd from an archer. 5 and 3 slots gone.
That's 8 of 10 slots used before I get a single attack, just so I can have a powerful enough execute to actually execute people without dying.
A good RD spammer is doing way more than just hitting one button. The skill is not in how I killed you. It's in how I just strung together 10 straight kills without dying myself.
I personally don't have a problem with people using RD. It just reeks of cowardice when you're outnumbered and some Templar hits you with RD at full health just hoping his comrades put you in execute range. With even numbers it's actually very easy to counter, gap close then bash.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA0 -
nraner81✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
idk if its what you would describe as "skill" as a vamp or something in there would add some.(maybe they are dual bar heals with radiant? I would think that many cyro healers are??? PVE player here)
But I would say that what you are describing is a intelligent and smart play by other players.
Why come into your range as a squish light armor player?PS4 NA Endgame tank/healer/runner/mag dps. Trials are why I play! I miss when Vdung were tough and fun.1 -
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✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
idk if its what you would describe as "skill" as a vamp or something in there would add some.(maybe they are dual bar heals with radiant? I would think that many cyro healers are??? PVE player here)
But I would say that what you are describing is a intelligent and smart play by other players.
Why come into your range as a squish light armor player?
Immovable pots give me a 15 second window where I can fight up close. If I'm in the mix any longer than that chances are I'm gonna die. People who wish Templars wouldn't fight at range don't understand the class mechanics. Stabby sticks is fun and all but I can't use it effectively in PVP. I use it in PVE because it's a PVEasy button.
Everyone play how you want. Cyrodiil is more fun that way.0 -
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »To all MagPlars out there...you guys who play strategically and plan out builds very well, I salute you. You give me a challenge in PvP.
For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
So it's ok for people in the back ground to sit there sniping I see that as no different to people using Rd , if your fighting more than s few people most likely your going to die anyway
Except you can dodge snipe. Even if you don't see it you can hear it.
Edit: I'm not saying it's any less spineless, just that it's much easier to counter.
...well easier to counter for dodge Horing, stam meta sheeple. Many other builds that take more skill to play have very little trouble dealing with RD.
I get 2 dodge rolls tops.
People poo poo on Templar DPS RD builds but they have no idea the number of tools it requires to play that way in 5 light armor without dying.
- I have to use mist form. 1 slot gone.
- I also use rapids as a stamina sink. 2 slots gone.
- Immovable pots.
- Invisibilty pots.
- No revovery except from resto staff heavy attacks.
- 2 mage guild abilities that barely get touched to up my DPS. 4 slots gone on the back bar, 2 on the front.
- Breath of Life on both bars so I can spam X, X, X, X fast enough to not get pewpewpew'd from an archer. 5 and 3 slots gone.
That's 8 of 10 slots used before I get a single attack, just so I can have a powerful enough execute to actually execute people without dying.
A good RD spammer is doing way more than just hitting one button. The skill is not in how I killed you. It's in how I just strung together 10 straight kills without dying myself.
I personally don't have a problem with people using RD. It just reeks of cowardice when you're outnumbered and some Templar hits you with RD at full health just hoping his comrades put you in execute range. With even numbers it's actually very easy to counter, gap close then bash.
lol Bruh,
Define "cowardice"
is cloak+veli+viper+sniper ->cloak->repeat cowardice?
Coz if that's the case there are *** tons of cowards in pvp lol
Not class is meant to PVP 1v1 like a duel setting.
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Lore_lai✭✭✭✭✭Are people really defending radiant spamming? Holy ghost be with this game the amount of unskilled players is ridiculous.
Skill?
Have you been out there? The amount of skill left in this game's pvp is minimal.
Where stam proc sets run rampant and Malu Radioactive vampire Templars run in packs.
Both are like a disease spawned as a way to counter each-other.
I sometimes wish they'd have their own server where they can battle it out till they get bored.
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Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »To all MagPlars out there...you guys who play strategically and plan out builds very well, I salute you. You give me a challenge in PvP.
For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
So it's ok for people in the back ground to sit there sniping I see that as no different to people using Rd , if your fighting more than s few people most likely your going to die anyway
Except you can dodge snipe. Even if you don't see it you can hear it.
Edit: I'm not saying it's any less spineless, just that it's much easier to counter.
...well easier to counter for dodge Horing, stam meta sheeple. Many other builds that take more skill to play have very little trouble dealing with RD.
Kiddo, I've been running stam since magica was the meta.
Congratulations, whats your point?0 -
Destyran✭✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »Radiant Destruction is overpowered. Undodgeable, spammable channel execute. However, in a situation where you are outnumbered, you can't complain. Someone who is outnumbered will always be at a disadvantage.
I was actually surviving as a Stam DK with DragonBlood, Rally and Vigor and Magma Armor. 2-4 guys was no issue. What was an issue was I got hit by 2 RD's and In my kill feed all i see "2500 Dizzying Swing, 15,000 Radiant Destruction, 12,000 Radiant Destruction"
I tell you what. I have been wearing all divines viper redmountain veli, and have been RD by some of the best templars NA and i thing i saw it reach 12k maybe once. I didnt have 12k health left thats for sure so i wasent even mad0 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭Lol have you seen fengrushes new cancer build, i'll take being jesus beamed any day over that.
There are 2 extremely amazing counters to beam available to everyone.
Crushing shock and venom arrow, in pvp there is no excuse to not run the relevant one and still complain about beam.
In fact both can completely shut down 90% of a templars abilities, and have other uses including against snipe spammers, hard casted frags, dark dealing/ exchanging sorcs, stopping rez's and probably others i have forgotten aboutPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
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SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭I wonder how people would feel if the 2h execute was completely undodgeable -- because if you're not horrible at the game you can use radiant exactly like you'd use the executioner morph. Get them low, Radiant and Animation cancel immediately so as to not be interrupted.
Edit: As for a Radiant nerf; I would have it to where it's dodgeable but not after it locks on to you. Example: A person tries to radiant me as I dodge roll, I dodge the initial hit and the beam never connects. What I do NOT want is a scenario where you hit someone with the beam and they dodge after it has connected.
In my opinion this nerfs radiant a little bit, but not overkill. It should still be the best execute in the game imo.Edited by SnubbS on October 12, 2016 7:29AM0 -
Surak73✭✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »For those of you who sit on the sidelines and spam Radiant Destruction at me over and over and over again while I am fighting 2-4 people....GET SOME SKILL SERIOUSLY.
Why are you supposing that fighting 2-4 melee players together with a couple of ranged magplars should be easy? It shouldn't, unless you are fighting some noobs who haven't any idea about how to play their characters.0
