Also, the problem is I overload the guard then he swarms me and I can't interrupt him due to crushing shock being on my other bar and by the time I've switched I'm dead as usual!!!

And fase 2 is at 70 pct. as i remember.

I haven't done it too many times on my Mag-Sorc but I might have a few tips that can help you:

• Don't rush it the first few (dozen) times as you learn it. The people you see rushing the fight and burning him have probably done it 100s of times and can know the fight really well. Take a more slow and steady approach until you can consistently beat all 3 stages of the last boss and then try things to speed it up.
• If you can consistently beat the Crematorial Guards then you have one of the most challenging parts of the fight done. I found it easiest to get as much range before the guard spawns and then Overload them down all while keeping an eye on the boss to roll dodge/interrupt him as needed.
• Use the Sigils! I usually start with Power right away and keep Speed for the third stage but use Defense/Healing as needed, especially if you need to jump down during the second stage.
• There is a sweet spot for DPS in the first stage where you'll get the Guard, Caster and Clannfear attacking you all at once. If this happens you need to do more DPS (to avoid the guard spawn entirely) or less DPS as dealing with the Guard, Caster and Boss at the same time is a little easier.
• Rune Prison can be useful to ignore the Caster, Clannfear, or Summoners for a while. This is most useful if you need to jump down in the second stage. Imprison the Clanfear, kill the Guard, and then kill the Clanfear on a portal.
• Use a Restoration Staff on your back bar and keep Rapid Regen up 100% of the time. Use Shields as needed (I prefer Harness Magicka for the Magicka restore) but having better self-healing than just Surge/Blood Magic is useful as you learn it.
• Practice! This last fight is by far the hardest in vMA to learn at first simply due to its extremely small margin of error...one small mistake will kill you. Once you spend the time to learn the mechanics and how to beat it, however, it will become much easier (I hesitate to say "easy"). After only a dozen completions I find stages 4/5/7 harder than the last boss now.

If you need more specific tips let us know exactly what parts of the last boss fight you are having problems with and what strategies you've tried so far.

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

I haven't done it too many times on my Mag-Sorc but I might have a few tips that can help you:

• Don't rush it the first few (dozen) times as you learn it. The people you see rushing the fight and burning him have probably done it 100s of times and can know the fight really well. Take a more slow and steady approach until you can consistently beat all 3 stages of the last boss and then try things to speed it up.
• If you can consistently beat the Crematorial Guards then you have one of the most challenging parts of the fight done. I found it easiest to get as much range before the guard spawns and then Overload them down all while keeping an eye on the boss to roll dodge/interrupt him as needed.
• Use the Sigils! I usually start with Power right away and keep Speed for the third stage but use Defense/Healing as needed, especially if you need to jump down during the second stage.
• There is a sweet spot for DPS in the first stage where you'll get the Guard, Caster and Clannfear attacking you all at once. If this happens you need to do more DPS (to avoid the guard spawn entirely) or less DPS as dealing with the Guard, Caster and Boss at the same time is a little easier.
• Rune Prison can be useful to ignore the Caster, Clannfear, or Summoners for a while. This is most useful if you need to jump down in the second stage. Imprison the Clanfear, kill the Guard, and then kill the Clanfear on a portal.
• Use a Restoration Staff on your back bar and keep Rapid Regen up 100% of the time. Use Shields as needed (I prefer Harness Magicka for the Magicka restore) but having better self-healing than just Surge/Blood Magic is useful as you learn it.
• Practice! This last fight is by far the hardest in vMA to learn at first simply due to its extremely small margin of error...one small mistake will kill you. Once you spend the time to learn the mechanics and how to beat it, however, it will become much easier (I hesitate to say "easy"). After only a dozen completions I find stages 4/5/7 harder than the last boss now.

If you need more specific tips let us know exactly what parts of the last boss fight you are having problems with and what strategies you've tried so far.

Thanks for the detailed reply mate, I appreciate it.

What do you mean by doing more DPS will stop the guards spawning?

Also when I go onto the upper level I attack the gems, and obviously I dodge the skulls but he still knocks me back and off?! How do I avoid this?

wellerrocks wrote: »

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

I haven't done it too many times on my Mag-Sorc but I might have a few tips that can help you:

• Don't rush it the first few (dozen) times as you learn it. The people you see rushing the fight and burning him have probably done it 100s of times and can know the fight really well. Take a more slow and steady approach until you can consistently beat all 3 stages of the last boss and then try things to speed it up.
• If you can consistently beat the Crematorial Guards then you have one of the most challenging parts of the fight done. I found it easiest to get as much range before the guard spawns and then Overload them down all while keeping an eye on the boss to roll dodge/interrupt him as needed.
• Use the Sigils! I usually start with Power right away and keep Speed for the third stage but use Defense/Healing as needed, especially if you need to jump down during the second stage.
• There is a sweet spot for DPS in the first stage where you'll get the Guard, Caster and Clannfear attacking you all at once. If this happens you need to do more DPS (to avoid the guard spawn entirely) or less DPS as dealing with the Guard, Caster and Boss at the same time is a little easier.
• Rune Prison can be useful to ignore the Caster, Clannfear, or Summoners for a while. This is most useful if you need to jump down in the second stage. Imprison the Clanfear, kill the Guard, and then kill the Clanfear on a portal.
• Use a Restoration Staff on your back bar and keep Rapid Regen up 100% of the time. Use Shields as needed (I prefer Harness Magicka for the Magicka restore) but having better self-healing than just Surge/Blood Magic is useful as you learn it.
• Practice! This last fight is by far the hardest in vMA to learn at first simply due to its extremely small margin of error...one small mistake will kill you. Once you spend the time to learn the mechanics and how to beat it, however, it will become much easier (I hesitate to say "easy"). After only a dozen completions I find stages 4/5/7 harder than the last boss now.

If you need more specific tips let us know exactly what parts of the last boss fight you are having problems with and what strategies you've tried so far.

Thanks for the detailed reply mate, I appreciate it.

What do you mean by doing more DPS will stop the guards spawning?

In the first stage the boss teleports up when he gets to 70% and I believe the Guard spawn is a timed event. So, if you can get the boss to 70% and kill the Clanfear before the Guard spawns you don't have to deal with him at all. The Guard despawns once you kill all 3 crystals and get blown back down.

However, this requires a very high DPS build and I've never managed to even come close to doing it. You might be able to do it by grabbing the Power Sigil and Overloading the boss down but this uses a lot of Ultimate and if (when) you die you won't have enough for a second attempt. Part of what made my attempts with a Mag-Sorc difficult is that I was relying too much on Overload so when I died I had no Ultimate left. Part of that was me learning when, and when not to, use Overload and try to do most of my DPS as normal, including the Guards actually. If you can circle around them closely you seem to take a little less damage from their breath.

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

wellerrocks wrote: »

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

I haven't done it too many times on my Mag-Sorc but I might have a few tips that can help you:

• Don't rush it the first few (dozen) times as you learn it. The people you see rushing the fight and burning him have probably done it 100s of times and can know the fight really well. Take a more slow and steady approach until you can consistently beat all 3 stages of the last boss and then try things to speed it up.
• If you can consistently beat the Crematorial Guards then you have one of the most challenging parts of the fight done. I found it easiest to get as much range before the guard spawns and then Overload them down all while keeping an eye on the boss to roll dodge/interrupt him as needed.
• Use the Sigils! I usually start with Power right away and keep Speed for the third stage but use Defense/Healing as needed, especially if you need to jump down during the second stage.
• There is a sweet spot for DPS in the first stage where you'll get the Guard, Caster and Clannfear attacking you all at once. If this happens you need to do more DPS (to avoid the guard spawn entirely) or less DPS as dealing with the Guard, Caster and Boss at the same time is a little easier.
• Rune Prison can be useful to ignore the Caster, Clannfear, or Summoners for a while. This is most useful if you need to jump down in the second stage. Imprison the Clanfear, kill the Guard, and then kill the Clanfear on a portal.
• Use a Restoration Staff on your back bar and keep Rapid Regen up 100% of the time. Use Shields as needed (I prefer Harness Magicka for the Magicka restore) but having better self-healing than just Surge/Blood Magic is useful as you learn it.
• Practice! This last fight is by far the hardest in vMA to learn at first simply due to its extremely small margin of error...one small mistake will kill you. Once you spend the time to learn the mechanics and how to beat it, however, it will become much easier (I hesitate to say "easy"). After only a dozen completions I find stages 4/5/7 harder than the last boss now.

If you need more specific tips let us know exactly what parts of the last boss fight you are having problems with and what strategies you've tried so far.

Thanks for the detailed reply mate, I appreciate it.

What do you mean by doing more DPS will stop the guards spawning?

In the first stage the boss teleports up when he gets to 70% and I believe the Guard spawn is a timed event. So, if you can get the boss to 70% and kill the Clanfear before the Guard spawns you don't have to deal with him at all. The Guard despawns once you kill all 3 crystals and get blown back down.

However, this requires a very high DPS build and I've never managed to even come close to doing it. You might be able to do it by grabbing the Power Sigil and Overloading the boss down but this uses a lot of Ultimate and if (when) you die you won't have enough for a second attempt. Part of what made my attempts with a Mag-Sorc difficult is that I was relying too much on Overload so when I died I had no Ultimate left. Part of that was me learning when, and when not to, use Overload and try to do most of my DPS as normal, including the Guards actually. If you can circle around them closely you seem to take a little less damage from their breath.

Will give the circling technique a go hold on.

wellerrocks wrote: »

Also when I go onto the upper level I attack the gems, and obviously I dodge the skulls but he still knocks me back and off?! How do I avoid this?

So the various mechanics of the second stage are:

1. Boss skull attack. Keep an eye on him and dodge roll when you see him wind up. Easy to do once you recognize it.
2. Constant AoEs. Keep moving back and forth as you DPS a crystal. Keep DoTs on the crystals (Liquid Lightning).
3. Constant DoT damage. You always take damage here that increases over time so keep up your self-healing (Surge, Rapid Regen) and Shields as needed. Its easy to assume that since you rarely take damage you don't need them and then all of a sudden you are under 50% health and its too late.
4. Walls and Explosion. The explosion is what is blowing you off of the stage. To avoid this you have to get behind one of the walls that spawns and rotates clockwise around the center. I always move counter-clockwise, opposite the wall's direction as it is much easier to catch them this way than to catch up to them the way they are moving. Each time a wall spawns it moves faster. If you can't destroy all 3 crystals by the time the third wall appears it is much better to just jump down. You'll have to deal with a Guard and Clanfear on the bottom but once you go back up the walls with reset.

wellerrocks wrote: »

Got destroyed again, didn't even get to crystals this time

Just keep at it! It took me and most people 100s of attempts on the last boss before succeeding. Always try to learn something from your deaths. Why did you die and what could you have done to avoid it? While I was learning the last boss I would try it for an hour or so at a time to avoid my frustration building to hazardous levels.

Your build looks fine btw assuming you have 300 or more CPs to go along with it. You can probably complete it with less but more difficult of course. I went with x2 Molag, x5 Elegant, x3 Willpower which gets a lot more DPS in Overload mode at a slight expense of normal DPS.

You don't have enough magicka with 37k... Your shields are a bit weak and you just won't hit hard enough. Slot Bound Aegis and Inner light.

I run it like this (it hasn't changed since the first time)
Destro bar 1:
- Frags
- Force Pulse
- Endless Fury (use Hardened Ward here instead)
- Bound Aegis
- Inner Light
- Overload

Destro bar 2:
- Liquid Lightning
- Elemental Blockade
- Hardened Ward (use whatever you need here, i play with the ward on back bar and execute on front)
- Bound Aegis
- Power Surge
- Overload

Overload Bar:
- Liquid Lightning
- Power Surge
- Ward
- Bound Aegis
- Inner Light

With this setup you'll hit much harder and your shields will be way stronger.
I personally face tanked the Daedroth. I'd interrupt the boss, put down my DoTs, go into Overload and fry the CG as soon as he came out while running around him so his fire breath wouldn't hit me. Let the boss and the CG both sit in your DoTs. It will heal you to full hp all the time (power surge is really amazing now, its not nerfed) and it will help you DPS. Usually when I'd kill the Crem Guard, the DoTs would have gotten the boss down to 70%. Then take out the caster, go up stairs, overload the crystals (keep Liquid Lightning and Power Surge up all the time). You don't have to jump down after the second wall. Just focus on DPS. Run anticlockwise. You'll get to the wall before he explodes it. Tri stat pots are pretty usefull here. Then when you get down its a piece of cake

wellerrocks wrote: »

Also when I go onto the upper level I attack the gems, and obviously I dodge the skulls but he still knocks me back and off?! How do I avoid this?

You have to follow the rock shield. It keeps you from being knocked off.

wellerrocks wrote: »

This is my first time doing VMSA and I am on the final boss on my magicka sorcerer.

I literally cannot get it past 50%, Ive been trying for about 4 hours and I'm making no progress whatsoever.

Ive seen people overload him to 75% to avoid the guards (these are my main issue) I just cannot stay alive while blocking and interrupting the boss. I spam shields throughout the guards, I overload them and get them down, I can't even begin to say how many times I have tried this boss. I have remorphed to crushing shock to interrupt him, still eventually die...

What do I do? I have worked so hard to get here but I cannot see myself doing it any time
soon. Any help or tips?

Thanks

Start north (where the dmg sigil spawns). Lay down any AoE/effects where the boss is going to spawn. Then grab the sigil and BURN boss to 70% BEFORE he ports (should be easy). This way you don't have to deal with the daedroth. Go up top and throw dots on the first crystal, dodge roll boss attack. Since you're range, you can dps the crystals while moving away, or to the wall. Once you destroy all 3 IMMEDIATELY locate where the defense sigil is when you fall down. Run straight for it and grab any other sigils (until you are comfortable without). This way, the bolts are reflected back at the boss while you focus on putting on dots and most importantly getting the ghosts that spawn. Do not miss a single one. If you get the first 3, wait until the daedroth starts to spawn while damaging boss...THEN use the explosion. From there it's game over.

This is basically how I first cleared it, I haven't changed much from this other than the amount of sigils. To be honest....I have gotten to the point where the final boss feels like the easiest part of the whole thing. You just have to execute everything flawlessly.

Good luck, don't get too frustrated. Trust me, I am the type of person when I get angry at BS mechanics I play worse. You will get the hang of it I'm sure.

try to watch a video about it to understand the mechanics.its really easy when you know whats going to happen.

I have to chime in here... LOL

I'm a flawless magicka sorc with 34k magicka and 2.3k spell power so don't dare say this guy doesn't have enough because YOU DO.

The trick is this: I mean this follow this and you'll be fine.

julianos - elegant - skoria I've also don't it with julianos willpower and skoria.

When you engage the boss:

Liquid lighting power overload frag proc etc.
When the boss teleports and spawns the mage grab the defense sigil and burn the add
Kill the add back to boss liquid lightning
The above is ONLY true if you run force pulse not crushing you don't want to interupt her as the bounce backs will contribute to further damage.
When she spawns d'droth power overload 3 hits dead - roll continue rotation
liquid lightning force pulse by now she should be at the mark

When you're up on the platforms as a SORC it's IMPOSSIBLE to get knocked down ( with practise ) I can survive 5, yes 5 wall phase before being unable to keep up this comes with practise

When you finish the crystals
EDIT: The power is KEY to leave until last phase it makes this whole round a MILLION times easier.
Down - power overload with 550-700 ultimate you'll be fine grab haste, power get gold ghost and don't forget to interupt depending where the boss is.

power overload the add to the centre (key)
switch back to force pulse wait for d-droth
switch to power overload kill d-droth
finish boss.

The key is the start which throws most, if you get the defensive sigil when she spawns the mage you watch how easy it becomes.

Lol I know 34k magicka sorc how does he do it...

Good luck!